Will you get the Moto Z Force 2?

[PowrDroid]

My top two priorities for a phone are battery and camera. The Force Z2 is underwhelming on both counts.

 

[Ry]

My top two priorities for a phone are battery and camera. The Force Z2 is underwhelming on both counts.

Have photo samples gone up yet?

 

[benjamminh]

Have photo samples gone up yet?

To be fair, nothing in-depth has come out yet. So we'll have to wait to see what the two camera set-up produces beyond the gimmicky depth of field shots.

 

[PowrDroid]

Have photo samples gone up yet?

f2.0 aperture with no OIS and 12MP.

Don't need to see them to know low light photos will be blurry and noisy. This is 3 year old technology.

 

[benjamminh]

f2.0 aperture with no OIS and 12MP.

Don't need to see them to know low light photos will be blurry and noisy. This is 3 year old technology.

I agree with this.

 

[benjamminh]

Not a large sensor size either. Unless the two cameras work together to improve image quality.

 

[garak0410]

I truly considered this phone, but it seems like a step down in many ways. I'm honestly disappointed in the specs. I really am.

 

[Doug Moffat]

Seems more like a circa 2015 phone.

 

[Leykis]

I was actually considering getting this a couple months ago when I heard T-Mobile would be carrying it. Was gonna use my jump from the S8+ to it. Heard so many good things about last year's model and the mods are what really intrigued me including the projector and the gaming one coming out later this year. Now reading about the specs I've changed my mind. A 2750mAH battery down from 3500mAH, 4GB of RAM(Chinese model has 6GB) and only 64GB internal storage(Chinese model has 128GB). Plus no real water resistance. And they want to charge people $700 for it? No thanks. The battery is probably the deal breaker for me. If they had kept it at 3500 I would have probably got it anyways despite the other downgrades. Oh but hey, you can buy the battery mod for $80 and double your battery life. Great! Now I can't use any other mod if I want adequate battery life.

I think this is a missed opportunity by Lenovo with the phone now being available on all the major carriers.

 

[Ry]

I was actually considering getting this a couple months ago when I heard T-Mobile would be carrying it. Was gonna use my jump from the S8+ to it. Heard so many good things about last year's model and the mods are what really intrigued me including the projector and the gaming one coming out later this year. Now reading about the specs I've changed my mind. Don't see how Motorola/Lenovo consider this an upgrade over last year's? Remove the headphone jack and throw in a smaller battery(2750mAH from 3500mAH) and charge people $700 for it. Oh but hey, you can buy the battery mod for $80 and double your battery life. Great! Now I can't use any other mod if I want adequate battery life.

I think this is a missed opportunity by Lenovo with the phone now being available on all the major carriers.

They didn't remove the headphone jack. The first Moto Z Force didn't have one either.

 

[Leykis]

They didn't remove the headphone jack. The first Moto Z Force didn't have one either.

My bad. I edited my comment. I got confused with the other Motorola Z phone that uses mods and has the headphone jack.

 

[Mike Dee]

My top two priorities for a phone are battery and camera. The Force Z2 is underwhelming on both counts.

Why do we need to buy a mod to make up for poor battery life?

 

[Aquila]

How is the battery life? Do we have good reviews on that front?

 

[travaz]

I ordered one on VZW because I am on unlimited data and the price was $360 and a free projector mod.

 

[Mike-Mike]

I ordered one on VZW because I am on unlimited data and the price was $360 and a free projector mod.

that is such a great deal, it is crazy

 

[benjamminh]

that is such a great deal, it is crazy

The only thing not great about it is that it is a device credit and if you pay it off early you'll end up paying the remaining months at full price.

 

[Morty2264]

Moto devices have intrigued me off and on for a while now. Who knows at this point! If I could have two or even three daily drivers, I'd be set haha. They look great though. Hope they do well this year!

 

[Mike Dee]

Moto devices have intrigued me off and on for a while now. Who knows at this point! If I could have two or even three daily drivers, I'd be set haha. They look great though. Hope they do well this year!

There's a 12 step program

 

[benjamminh]

The reviews are pretty brutal so far. You have the screen that scratches, although Moto said the review units are not like the consumer units. You have a slow camera with issues in low light because of no OIS. The battery is actually a little better than expected given its capacity. The lack of a real water resistance rating is getting old. The lack of a headphone jack, that's the way they're going. Maybe by Black Friday there will be some great deals and perhaps a little improvement software wise with the camera, although that's probably wishful thinking.