Xfinity Android BYOD Workaround and Number Transfer?

consultant1027

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We know that BYOD is in effect for iPhones. Just like people bought the cheap phone in the past and swapped the SIM card. I have a newer Verizon Android Smartphone. My roommate has an iPhone not on Xfinity. Couldn't we take the SIM card out of the iPhone, pop into the Xfinity store and have them put a SIM in it. Don't transfer the phone number. Then take the Xfinity sim out, pop it in the Android Verizon phone, then transfer the phone number and WALAA, BYOD Android? Or would the phone number not transfer because although the device you're transferring the phone number too has a working Xfinity SIM, the IMEI of the phone is not registered with Xfinity?

I know that it's quite common to be able to swap SIMs, such as in the case if you travel to a foreign country and want to use local cell service with a local number instead of roaming.

Here's an even more interesting second part of the question. I understand the cell companies need to design their service offerings around the "lowest common dominator" customer so to speak or else risk flooding their customer support lines. One reason why firmware updates come out so much later on carrier versions of Android devices than on Google devices. They are extra cautious on the rollout because one major bug and they'll have millions of pissed off customers. (So would Google, but it takes additional time for the slow carrier to create their brand of the new O/S version.)

So consider this. The Xfinity service is $0 per line if you don't use it. SO, theoretically, if you put a SIM in your Android device and it didn't work, you wouldn't get charged anything. Someone like me knows I would be "on my own" so to speak so if it didn't work I would have no reason to call tech support because the person at the store warned me, we don't support Android devices. If this doesn't work you need to simply cancel the line.

It seems Xfinity is leaving a lot of money on the table for us Android Verizon users that want to switch. In fact, the salesperson could test the SIM in your Android device at the store before you even left! So why not say, Verizon Android Phone users can get a SIM card but there is no guarantee it will work. If it works, customer is happy, and more money for Xfinity. If it doesn't, customer puts old SIM card back in, customer is not charged for anything (unless there's a setup fee) and no harm no foul. This only works if you make the customer get the SIM from the store so salesperson can verify it works, which they already require for iPhone. If you allowed people to get shipped a SIM card, then I could see potential Customer Service headaches and understand why they would hold back from activating a BYOD program for Android which has a much wider variety of phones than iPhones. But I would BET that almost if not all * VERIZON * Android phones work perfectly with Xfinity SIM.

Am I missing something here or isn't this logic completely reasonable?
 

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It seems Xfinity is leaving a lot of money on the table for us Android Verizon users that want to switch. In fact, the salesperson could test the SIM in your Android device at the store before you even left! So why not say, Verizon Android Phone users can get a SIM card but there is no guarantee it will work. If it works, customer is happy, and more money for Xfinity. If it doesn't, customer puts old SIM card back in, customer is not charged for anything (unless there's a setup fee) and no harm no foul. This only works if you make the customer get the SIM from the store so salesperson can verify it works, which they already require for iPhone. If you allowed people to get shipped a SIM card, then I could see potential Customer Service headaches and understand why they would hold back from activating a BYOD program for Android which has a much wider variety of phones than iPhones. But I would BET that almost if not all * VERIZON * Android phones work perfectly with Xfinity SIM.

Am I missing something here or isn't this logic completely reasonable?
If I read Xfinity right, you're talking about phones used in their phone service that you get with their cable service. That connects to a portable phone base station (that may be physically inside their modem/router/WAP box). It most likely uses DECT 6.0, not cellular. That's like the difference between the alternator in a gas engine powered car and a nuclear power plant - different frequencies, different technologies in the case of the phones. You can't use a cellphone on a DECT 6.0 system (or vice-versa).

Where they're leaving money on the table, if they are (and they may not be) is in not giving you an RJ-11 or RJ-14 jack on the box so you can plug in your own cordless phone system, making their phone service more affordable to some people. (How much do they charge per month for the equipment? Probably not much.)

So consider this. The Xfinity service is $0 per line if you don't use it.
If you don't pay for it, there's no connection to a telephone line at their end, so plugging a phone into the system won't get you anything. But you can't plug a "cellular base station" into their box, it has to be a cordless phone base station - and you have to use cordless phones with it. (Some of them connect to cellphones via Bluetooth - while you're within a couple of rooms of the base station - but that's about it.)

If Xfinity is offering cell service, that's another matter. Post back and we can discuss that situation. (Include the carrier they use - Xfinity is not a carrier.)
 

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You didn't get it right. We are on the Android forum - a forum about an O/S for and related to Mobile Phones/Devices. Technically the service is called "Xfinity Mobile" but even so, I'm quite surprised this would be taken as a post about home phone SIP service.

A lot of forums, their carrier section doesn't even have an Xfinity Mobile section, even though it's been around for what, almost a year. Anyone with Xfinity Internet can get it and it's especially useful to people like my thrifty retired parents that use very little data. It's $12 a month for up to 1GB of data, $12/gb there after or $45 for unlimited data, runs on the most ubiquitous network: Verizon. Pretty good deal.
 

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If Xfinity is offering cell service, that's another matter. Post back and we can discuss that situation. (Include the carrier they use - Xfinity is not a carrier.)

Actually Xfinity/Comcast is the wireless carrier and they use Verizon towers, similar to Cricket, Metro PCS, etc. They started their own mobile service last year. It require you have Xfinity/Comcast cable or internet service.

I have been wanting to try something similar. My neighbor switched to xfinity mobile from Verizon and really likes it. Unfortunately he will not let me borrow the sim card to test it in my Moto Z Force. The new plan is I am trying to talk my wife into letting me "borrow" her I-phone 6s and get an Xfinity mobile sim put in it. I would then transfer the sim card to my Moto Z Force.
 

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