Zenwatch turns on display by itself

bbtkd

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In order to save power, I've disabled the always on and tilt to turn on features.. So - it should only turn on when I touch the screen, and yet it sometimes turns on by itself repeatedly, running the battery down. It will do this at random intervals from a few seconds to a few minutes. I have tried restarting it to no avail. It doesn't do this all the time. I've had the battery drop only 25% per day for the first two days after charging, then I note the screen coming on by itself and using 40% on day three. Thinking it may still be sensing motion, I've taken it off and never have seen it turn on when I'm not wearing it, so maybe it is sensing motion. Also have noted that the Zenwatch app setting for tilt is occasionally re-enabling itself, though it still does the screen on thing when it is disabled. If it makes any difference, I am using a watch face I adapted from a published one in Watchmaker Premium. Anyone else seeing their display turn on by itself?
 
I actually noticed this last week on mine. However, as you mentioned, I discovered the tilt to wake setting somehow turned itself back on. Once I turned the setting back off, I haven't had any issue with it again.
 
OK - seeing some pattern to this. Noted it coming on today; once a minute it comes on, times out, then about 3 seconds later comes on again, times out then stays off until the next minute. It repeated this for several minutes until I took it off - then nothing. So put it back on and it started again. Took it off and it stopped again. No idea why it doesn't do this every day, why it seems to only do it when I'm wearing it. And right now it is not doing it. I confirmed that tilt on is disabled, though that does keep re-enabling on its own - another bug.

So - is something happening every minute - twice in a row? Is it only doing it when worn because my skin is activating contacts on the back? May put tape over it next time I note it happening.
 
OK, I took it off the charger Saturday morning and put electrical tape over the contacts. I have not yet seen the screen come on by itself, and I have 47% charge remaining after 52 hours. If this holds, I should get four days on the charge. If the electrical tape does it then they have a problem with the contacts being triggered by skin conductivity. Only two would be required to charge, so the four contacts must ensure that the cradle is attached vs. something shorting out some of the contacts. The firmware is apparently waking the watch on a one minute interval when contacts are shorted - will test that theory when I take the tape off.
 
After further testing, I do not believe it is a problem with the Zenwatch. I checked further and I believe it is a problem with Android 4.3 and 4.4.3 where there is a cache of encountered Bluetooth ID's. When that table hits 200, Bluetooth begins crashing periodically - every minute on my phone. The fix for this is apparently in Android 4.4.4 and above. If you are running an unrooted 4.3 or 4.4.3 phone, there is no reliable way to clear that cache, short of an FDR which would only be a temporary fix. If you are rooted you can clear it but it will recur. There is an app in the Play store that works for some phones, but not my Samsung S4. So, guess I just need to tolerate the issue for now. I expect this accounts for heavy phone battery drain at times also.
 
Awesome work hunting this down!

This would also explain why I haven't seen this behavior on my ZenWatch after I turned the tilt to wake feature off as the watch is connected to a Nexus 6 running 5.0.1.
 
If you are using Watchmaker and have a watchface that has weather, some are reporting that since a recent update the watch display turns on when updates occur. I don't think this is my issue since when it happens, it's every minute while my weather updates are set for one hour.
 
If you are using Watchmaker and have a watchface that has weather, some are reporting that since a recent update the watch display turns on when updates occur. I don't think this is my issue since when it happens, it's every minute while my weather updates are set for one hour.
Huh... I do use watchmaker, but usually don't pay much attention to the weather. Also, I typically leave the "always on" feature engaged... So I may not even notice if it did come on to update the weather.

I will check this on mine tho and report back.
 
Huh... I do use watchmaker, but usually don't pay much attention to the weather. Also, I typically leave the "always on" feature engaged... So I may not even notice if it did come on to update the weather.

I will check this on mine tho and report back.

Well - Watchmaker came out with a fix yesterday for repeated crashing where the display would apparently come on every time. While it will take a few days to know for sure, it did not happen to mine today, and in 13 hours it used only 14%.
 
Well - Watchmaker came out with a fix yesterday for repeated crashing where the display would apparently come on every time. While it will take a few days to know for sure, it did not happen to mine today, and in 13 hours it used only 14%.
Sounds good... I checked on mine and I never noticed it coming on by itself. However, I usually leave my GPS off and just enter a location manually for the weather.

Let's hope the fix they released solves it for you.
 
Sounds good... I checked on mine and I never noticed it coming on by itself. However, I usually leave my GPS off and just enter a location manually for the weather.

Let's hope the fix they released solves it for you.

I made it 85 hours between charges - probably could have pushed it further since I still had 4%. I does seem that the watchmaker app update fixed the problem I was having. The bug they fixed was causing repeated crashes, and every time watchmaker restarts it turns on the display.
 
I made it 85 hours between charges - probably could have pushed it further since I still had 4%. I does seem that the watchmaker app update fixed the problem I was having. The bug they fixed was causing repeated crashes, and every time watchmaker restarts it turns on the display.
Makes sense... Thanks for the info in case I (or others) ever run into this scenario!

Also, excellent battery life there... Haven't even attempted to get mine that far. I'm used to charging every night anyways.
 
I don't mind getting a day plus so I just let it run.
BTW, "Omega x-ray" is a really pretty face although information display is nil.