03-30-2013 03:23 PM
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  1. mgianni19's Avatar
    Android Central, could you help me out? I am going to pre-order the S4 when it's announced, but now I have the dilemma of choosing Verizon or AT&T. I just dropped Sprint (Service BLOWS when I visit my family in Southern NJ) and I have until the 25th to port my number over to another carrier. T-Mobile is not an option as the service where I am is very questionable.

    I am really into rooting my phones and I'm afraid that if I go with Verizon I won't be able to root my S4? Is that true? Wasn't there a work around the S3 where people got it rooted and S-off?

    I am in a 4G LTE Market for both phones, that isn't the issue, but when I travel to NJ, it seems Verizon has the better coverage, LTE wise, up there.

    My bill with both will be the same for each.

    I just can't make up my mind!! LOL, I suck. Please persuade me!
    03-14-2013 07:10 AM
  2. fatboy97's Avatar
    There are some very smart people out there that can and do root every phone that is out there... including all Verizon phones. I did hear that Verizon might be the last ones to get the new S4. That might be a concern if you are thinking you need this phone by the 25th... but if it was me I would not be concerned with which you can root, but try to find the carrier that works best in your area. For me it is Verizon, but I do get fairly good coverage with almost every carrier.
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    03-14-2013 07:26 AM
  3. cdmadon's Avatar
    I'd base this solely on coverage. Ultimately you want a phone that works.
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    03-14-2013 09:07 AM
  4. Paul627g's Avatar
    Yes the S3 on Verizon was hacked and rooted. In the early stages it was a bit tricky but now that its been fine tuned its not an issue anymore at all...

    Problem is.. How long will Verizon take to release it since they seem to sit on things for a while longer than the rest of the US carrier market.
    03-14-2013 09:15 AM
  5. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    Android Central, could you help me out? I am going to pre-order the S4 when it's announced, but now I have the dilemma of choosing Verizon or AT&T. I just dropped Sprint (Service BLOWS when I visit my family in Southern NJ) and I have until the 25th to port my number over to another carrier. T-Mobile is not an option as the service where I am is very questionable.

    I am really into rooting my phones and I'm afraid that if I go with Verizon I won't be able to root my S4? Is that true? Wasn't there a work around the S3 where people got it rooted and S-off?

    I am in a 4G LTE Market for both phones, that isn't the issue, but when I travel to NJ, it seems Verizon has the better coverage, LTE wise, up there.

    My bill with both will be the same for each.

    I just can't make up my mind!! LOL, I suck. Please persuade me!
    When it comes to the network itself, I love Verizon, but the biggest cons are:
    1. Phones are CDMA and locked. If you don't travel Internationally or plan to take your device to another carrier, this isn't a very big deal.
    2. They tend to lock their phones down more than other carriers. The Verizon GS3 was the last of all variants to get it's bootloader unlocked (I refused to buy an GS3 until that happened). Granted, usually someone will figure out how to do it, but there's never a guarantee. Having said that though, there was also a "developer" edition of the GS3 for Verizon that you could buy at full retail if you choose to do so, with an unlocked bootloader...of course it wasn't even made available until last fall, several months after the release of the standard version.
    3. Updates. Verizon phones ALWAYS take the longest to get updates compared to the other US carriers. Since you said you're into rooting, however, this probably isn't a big deal for you since you would be able to flash updated ROMs at your own will.

    I can't make any comments about AT&T because I've never been a customer of theirs.

    Here's the thing though, Samsung is supposed to "unveil" the GS4 today...So I highly doubt you'll be able to get yourself into an GS4 by the 25th, even by pre-order. AT&T is a maybe, I suppose, but last year, for example, Verizon didn't the get the GS3 until July -- and I don't think they started taking pre-orders until sometime in June, even thought the International and GSM versions had come out several months earlier. You may be stuck having to get a "burner" to use for a while if you need to switch by the 25th and are set on getting the GS4
    03-14-2013 09:39 AM
  6. LOANDROID's Avatar
    I'd base this solely on coverage. Ultimately you want a phone that works.
    This!
    03-14-2013 01:07 PM
  7. MAXXTX's Avatar
    AT&T vs. Verizon: Who's got the best family data plan? - GadgetBox on NBCNews.com
    I have VZW and Ive been happy with the service even though Im on that damn data plan. I usually only use about 3 gb per month just me but the 2nd phone uses about 1 or less. Coverage is a must for me and there pretty close though VZW has the edge here beating out ATT. Also ATT customer service sucks ***
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    03-14-2013 01:27 PM
  8. JBJ312's Avatar
    Heads Up on the AT&T situation - I have a GSlll and it has had numerous problems. see below link for the at&t thread. I am hoping the GSlV will not have the same issues. If anyone has any insight on avoiding the below problem with the new GSlV - much appreciated.

    Samsung Galaxy S3 Not Receiving Calls - Phone issu... - AT&T Community Support
    03-14-2013 03:12 PM
  9. JainaSJedi's Avatar
    Speaking of international versions...

    Are these phones unlocked if you buy at full retail price? I need a Verizon phone for this summer where Verizon is the only data network that works in Yellowstone, but I am going to Australia in October. So I really need an unlocked international version. Will the Verizon version of the Galaxy S4 work internationally with a local SIM card?
    03-14-2013 07:12 PM
  10. Love Divine's Avatar
    Verizon:

    -Later release
    -Slower updates
    -More bloatware
    -Obnoxious carrier branding
    -Data caps (not sure about ATT)
    -Expensive as hell
    -Don't get yearly upgrades
    03-14-2013 07:13 PM
  11. Prinny Mask's Avatar
    -Obnoxious carrier branding
    The button is said to be slightly bigger than on the S3. Does this mean there's now enough room to squeeze a logo on there?
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    03-14-2013 07:34 PM
  12. lou61166's Avatar
    I am a loyal Verizon customer,Fios/wireless, excellent coverage,superior network,never any issues,but i also live about 15 miles from Verizon wireless world headquarters so i cannot speak for different locations,in the end you have to go with what serice works best in your location.
    03-14-2013 07:43 PM
  13. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    I am a loyal Verizon customer,Fios/wireless, excellent coverage,superior network,never any issues,but i also live about 15 miles from Verizon wireless world headquarters so i cannot speak for different locations,in the end you have to go with what serice works best in your location.
    This.
    VZ has the best coverage overall, but several disadvantages. However, coverage is the big one. If AT&T has good coverage in your area I'd go with them.
    03-14-2013 07:47 PM
  14. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    Verizon:

    -Later release (Based on previous releases, this is probably true)
    -Slower updates (True, but shouldn't be a concern for the OP if they are going to root and manage updates themselves)
    -More bloatware (See above -- bloatware easily removed by rooting)
    -Obnoxious carrier branding (I know this bothers some, but honestly, it is just cosmetic)
    -Data caps (not sure about ATT) (AT&T had data caps before Verizon -- think Sprint is only US option if you want to avoid them)
    -Expensive as hell (Depending on your plan and other discounts, Verizon and AT&T will probably be competitive in pricing, so you'd want to look into all carriers based on what type of plan you'd need to go with. Sprint or T-mobile or other smaller carriers will probably be cheaper, though you may sacrifice service coverage)
    -Don't get yearly upgrades (Both AT&T allow subsidized upgrades at the 20-month mark of 2-year contracts...do any US carriers have "yearly" upgrades?)
    See my comments in RED above...

    I'm not trying to defend Big Red here, but the fact is that there is a reason they have so many customers and why so many of their customers stick with them (although many of the quoted reasons are why people switch away from them as well).

    Again, depending on what type of plan you need, it's hard to say whether Verizon will be more expensive than AT&T or vice versa. My company, for example, offers a great discount on Verizon, so I'd actually spend more to switch to an AT&T plan; that may be opposite for others. The amount of minutes and data you need as well as the number of lines on your plan also can affect who may offer the best value for your needs, so it's best to check with both. Both T-Mobile and Sprint (as well as numerous smaller regional carriers) offer cheaper plans, but again, it can be a matter of sacrificing coverage, depending on where you live (and travel to) and use your phone.

    As someone who also likes to root and run ROMs, I don't care that much about bloatware or the fact that Verizon tends to be slower on updates, although it does force me to research the phones before I buy and make sure the bootloader can be unlocked, etc. If updates and running the latest software is important to you though, Verizon is not the best choice.
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    03-18-2013 08:32 AM
  15. GS4Bob's Avatar
    Newbie here....no cell phone!!!
    I have ATT landline and DSL Pro internet. I want to get rid of the landline and keep the DSL Pro. I also want to move my current landline # on the GS4.
    So, I figure the best move for me is to go ATT to make sure when my number is ported I don't lose the DSL.
    In my area, Verizon has the better coverage, but not significantly better, so ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S4 should be fine.....BUT it appears that Verizon has 4G LTE while ATT has 4G...not sure what the big diff. is however.

    Anyone go thru this and have any advice on how to proceed? Big learning curve since this will be first smartphone.

    As I understand..... In the DSL provisioning too, there is a specific option that should be used that converts line-share service (telephone and internet) to dry-loop service (internet only). If done properly, there will not be an issue. If ATT says they need to send a tech out to install then that is wrong.
    So, if it is done correct as stated and the number is ported and then the dsl provisioning is set correct, I should be good?
    03-18-2013 09:21 AM
  16. planoman's Avatar
    Speaking of international versions...

    Are these phones unlocked if you buy at full retail price? I need a Verizon phone for this summer where Verizon is the only data network that works in Yellowstone, but I am going to Australia in October. So I really need an unlocked international version. Will the Verizon version of the Galaxy S4 work internationally with a local SIM card?
    Still locked here in the US even at full price. Not sure if you can still get a code or not with the changes in the law. You can get an unlocked international but it will be gsm and not compatible with verizon. Just get a cheap unlocked phone for international.

    Pretty much the rest of the world is gsm so you just pop a pre paid SIM in and you have service anywhere in thw world. Not sure why verizon and sprint stayed CDMA but is is older technology. They do have some world phones that take a SIM but not sure of the models.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317
    03-18-2013 10:16 AM
  17. racedog's Avatar
    We use Verizon because here in Kansas no one even comes close to their coverage, and being in a more rural area, it is even a larger issue. If I were in a larger area I would go with either ATT or VZW. And, if I travelled outside of the US, then I AT&T would definitely be my preference since a simple sim card change would allow me to use local services wherever I happened to be.
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    03-18-2013 03:28 PM
  18. lou61166's Avatar
    We use Verizon because here in Kansas no one even comes close to their coverage, and being in a more rural area, it is even a larger issue. If I were in a larger area I would go with either ATT or VZW. And, if I travelled outside of the US, then I AT&T would definitely be my preference since a simple sim card change would allow me to use local services wherever I happened to be.
    I have a DNA which has a Sim card and is dual band capable,i am pretty sure most if not all high end smartphones Verizon sell have this feature.for international use
    03-18-2013 03:33 PM
  19. dlinares90's Avatar
    Though there are most certainly many factors that go into selecting a mobile carrier, it would seem obvious that the most important is service coverage (I think). On that premise, you would need to find out how well Verizon and AT&T perform in your local area (or wherever you believe to be spending most of your time). If coverage from both services seem to be somewhat equal, you should look at price and plan options.
    03-18-2013 04:01 PM
  20. TheOtherBill's Avatar
    In my area, Verizon has the better coverage, but not significantly better, so ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S4 should be fine.....BUT it appears that Verizon has 4G LTE while ATT has 4G...not sure what the big diff. is however.
    LTE is 4G, just a faster version. Both ATT & VZ offer it, but not necessarily in your area (if you go to a carrier's web site you should find a coverage map). For many people 4G (HSPA+) is enough, it depends on if you plan on downloading or streaming a lot. Remember that with either VZ or ATT you're going to have data caps. LTE is fast enough that you can use up your whole month's allocation while drinking a single cup of coffee.
    03-19-2013 01:22 AM
  21. jcp007's Avatar
    Been with AT&T for more than 18 years with no major issues. Just wish that they were quicker with Android OS updates.
    03-19-2013 05:18 AM
  22. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    Newbie here....no cell phone!!!
    I have ATT landline and DSL Pro internet. I want to get rid of the landline and keep the DSL Pro. I also want to move my current landline # on the GS4.
    So, I figure the best move for me is to go ATT to make sure when my number is ported I don't lose the DSL.
    In my area, Verizon has the better coverage, but not significantly better, so ATT with the Samsung Galaxy S4 should be fine.....BUT it appears that Verizon has 4G LTE while ATT has 4G...not sure what the big diff. is however.
    LTE is 4G, just a faster version. Both ATT & VZ offer it, but not necessarily in your area (if you go to a carrier's web site you should find a coverage map). For many people 4G (HSPA+) is enough, it depends on if you plan on downloading or streaming a lot. Remember that with either VZ or ATT you're going to have data caps. LTE is fast enough that you can use up your whole month's allocation while drinking a single cup of coffee.
    4G simply = "4th generation" in terms of technology of mobile data transmission. It is a generic term to describe those network types developed since those classified as "3G". There are several different specific technologies that fall under the generic term "4G", one of them being Verizon's LTE. While all 4G tech is faster than it's 3G counterparts, there can be a big difference in the performance of the various 4G network types...and LTE is considered to be the fastest.

    Back when 3G was all the rage a few years ago, Verizon always branded their network as "1XEV" on their phones, and folks would be like, "Why doesn't this phone have 3G?!?", when in fact 1XEV was Verizon's 3G technology. They eventually just started putting a "3G" logo on their phones to avoid consumer confusion...which is probably why they also branded their LTE network as "4G LTE".

    Sorry I don't really have anything to add as far as an answer to your number porting and DSL questions.
    03-19-2013 07:49 AM
  23. Suntan's Avatar
    Both VZW and ATT treat their customers like ****. Get the one that has better coverage in your area.

    -Suntan
    03-19-2013 08:11 AM
  24. GS4Bob's Avatar
    LTE is 4G, just a faster version. Both ATT & VZ offer it, but not necessarily in your area (if you go to a carrier's web site you should find a coverage map). For many people 4G (HSPA+) is enough, it depends on if you plan on downloading or streaming a lot. Remember that with either VZ or ATT you're going to have data caps. LTE is fast enough that you can use up your whole month's allocation while drinking a single cup of coffee.
    It appears from the coverage maps of ATT & Verizon that Verizon has 4G LTE and ATT has the 4G w/HSPA. ATT has 4G LTE in larger urban areas...I am in a small urban area.
    Reports of consumers coverage in the area indicated Verizon is best. Prices seem to be about the same for voice/data.
    03-19-2013 10:10 AM
  25. JRDroid's Avatar
    Personally, having been on both networks, I prefer AT&T. The data speeds you get on AT&T when you are in non-LTE areas are just sooooo much better than the data speeds in Verizon's non-LTE areas. However, Verizon has a much larger footprint, so if you travel a lot to less populous areas (particularly in the center of the country), Verizon may be the better fit. But if you don't frequently travel to the mid-west, I'd say AT&T.
    03-19-2013 05:57 PM
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