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    So I dropped my iPhone in my cup yesterday and it's dead, fortunately I was looking at switching since my Power On button barely works, so the water incident is a good thing to a degree.

    My question is, I see I can buy a Moto X off contract for $379 (32gb) but it's going to take 9 days and doesn't seem to be for Verizon. Or I can go to Verizon, buy an off-contract there (still on a contract with my iPhone 5), but it seems it comes with Verizons crappy bloatware.

    Does an off-contract direct from Motorola come with bloatware or without if going with Verizon, or am I right in assuming the off-contract direct from Motorola isn't for Verizon and I'm forced to go to the store?
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    So the great thing about the bloatware is that it can be disabled permanently in a few short seconds. My MMX came with the standard Verizon apps, but were all disabled immediately with no ill effects. Buying off the shelf in a store will yield the same results.

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    Being a new Android user, what's the simple / quick steps to accomplish this?
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    setings>apps>all>select specific app>select disable

    easy peasy!
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    as i am pretty new as well, how do you know what is bloatware and what is not ?
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    This thread shows some bloatware that safe to disabled. I think there is another list showing more things safe to disable. There are somethings you shouldnt disable.Be careful what you disable dont just start disabling anything.I have a few things disabled not shown on this list.
    Bloatware is typically Apps that come pre installed and cant be uninstalled (without root), and are not wanted or used by the phone's owner .
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    Does the unlocked gsm moto x not work for Verizon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4runnerbrett View Post
    Does the unlocked gsm moto x not work for Verizon?
    I dont think so , and be able to use LTE
    Last edited by davidnc; 02-17-2014 at 11:27 AM. Reason: added stuff
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    Oh that suxks
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFPoster View Post
    So I dropped my iPhone in my cup yesterday and it's dead, fortunately I was looking at switching since my Power On button barely works, so the water incident is a good thing to a degree.

    My question is, I see I can buy a Moto X off contract for $379 (32gb) but it's going to take 9 days and doesn't seem to be for Verizon. Or I can go to Verizon, buy an off-contract there (still on a contract with my iPhone 5), but it seems it comes with Verizons crappy bloatware.

    Does an off-contract direct from Motorola come with bloatware or without if going with Verizon, or am I right in assuming the off-contract direct from Motorola isn't for Verizon and I'm forced to go to the store?
    The off-contract Moto X for Verizon is the same as an on-contract Moto X for Verizon.
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    Everything !!! From Verizon is Bloat - Verizon Login, Verizon Tones, Voicemail, Vz Navigator, Sync Services, NFL Mobile, My verizon mobile, Mobile Hotspot, Call Make ID,

    Most from Motorola is Bloat too. - Photo ScreenSavers, motorola spotlight player, motorola Skip set up, motorola Migrate, Motorola Connect, motorola Checkin, Motorola assist, moto care, Device management, d2d call handler, Motorola moodles, Audio effects, Toucless Controls = Were cool for the first five minutes but a battery drain so is the Active display. They both also slow down the phone, Touchless is just a middle man to Google hotword detection and when you unlock the x using the active display pull down gesture instead of the android slide gesture, you notice lag and a stutter

    A Lot of Google Bloat as well - Live wall papers, Talk back, Tags, Sound Recorder, Preset, Picasa uploader, Music Visulization Wall Paper, Phase beam, Magic smole wall papers, google+, Google play games, Google one tim init, google pinyin input, Face unlock, Email & Exchange serivces if using Gmail, Basic Daydreams, bubbles, Android Live Wall papers,

    And Several that unfortunately, Can't be Disabled - Backup assistant+ & backip assistant+ contacts - neither can be disabled, Motorola setup wizard, Demo mode, Emergency alerts, Live wallpaper picker, Moto Care, Moto Client, Motorola ID, Motorola serices, Motorola services main, Motorols SLPC service, Motorolal SLPC system, Native Drop Box agent, Sttings storage, Wireless dispay, Wireless Display servixe, Wireless Display widget.

    There are also at least a dozen of the Android Green Icon services which can and should be killed or disabled if possible, Anything with VZW or Verizon in it, Several Moto / Motorolas ones

    Compare a Moto x to the nexus 5, You wont find any of these, except the Google ones on that phone and it works fine, therefore, None should be on the X
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    Quote Originally Posted by somfw View Post
    Everything !!! From Verizon is Bloat - Verizon Login, Verizon Tones, Voicemail, Vz Navigator, Sync Services, NFL Mobile, My verizon mobile, Mobile Hotspot, Call Make ID,

    Most from Motorola is Bloat too. - Photo ScreenSavers, motorola spotlight player, motorola Skip set up, motorola Migrate, Motorola Connect, motorola Checkin, Motorola assist, moto care, Device management, d2d call handler, Motorola moodles, Audio effects, Toucless Controls = Were cool for the first five minutes but a battery drain so is the Active display. They both also slow down the phone, Touchless is just a middle man to Google hotword detection and when you unlock the x using the active display pull down gesture instead of the android slide gesture, you notice lag and a stutter

    A Lot of Google Bloat as well - Live wall papers, Talk back, Tags, Sound Recorder, Preset, Picasa uploader, Music Visulization Wall Paper, Phase beam, Magic smole wall papers, google+, Google play games, Google one tim init, google pinyin input, Face unlock, Email & Exchange serivces if using Gmail, Basic Daydreams, bubbles, Android Live Wall papers,

    And Several that unfortunately, Can't be Disabled - Backup assistant+ & backip assistant+ contacts - neither can be disabled, Motorola setup wizard, Demo mode, Emergency alerts, Live wallpaper picker, Moto Care, Moto Client, Motorola ID, Motorola serices, Motorola services main, Motorols SLPC service, Motorolal SLPC system, Native Drop Box agent, Sttings storage, Wireless dispay, Wireless Display servixe, Wireless Display widget.

    There are also at least a dozen of the Android Green Icon services which can and should be killed or disabled if possible, Anything with VZW or Verizon in it, Several Moto / Motorolas ones

    Compare a Moto x to the nexus 5, You wont find any of these, except the Google ones on that phone and it works fine, therefore, None should be on the X
    Active display and always listening had no effect on battery life when I used the Moto X. Battery was exceptional. Had around 3 hours and 40 minutes of screen time with about 45 percent left. The Nexus 5 won't get anywhere near that.
    I liked the Nexus 5 in the very short time I used it, but I would still take the Moto X over it any day. The "bloatware" is minimal. Most of what you mentioned were system processes and not actual apps you could use. The Motorola apps are actually useful.
    If you really wanted to, you could delete them all anyway

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    Turn them Both off, you will notice and increase in battery life, Not A huge one but enough to matter.
    The main reason people complain about battery life on the Nexus 5 is because of certain apps that drain it - Hot Word detection is a huge one! Then you have Location History and Location Reporting and commute sharing, which all turn on by default with Google now! Turn them off and the Nexus 5 gets the same or better battery life then the moto x.
    3:35 is acceptable at 45%, I am currently at 3:02 with 52% left with 19H30Mins on battery using only 4G. Over 14% of that battery drain was in total standby. The problem with the moto x is that the last 25% of battery life goes much faster then the first. If you had an honest 7+ hours of screen on time that would be Great for any std size battery Android. Unfortunately that is not the case, it is usually 5 to 6 hours or less depending how long the phone was on. Since an android connected and syncing even with all bloat disabled will lose about 1+% per hour and more the longer it is on.
    Also there is the fact that WiFi is messed up , over night, even with always scanning off and Never while sleeping engaged the Wifi is on 85+% of the time constantly waking the phone, I have been testing this with wifi or 4g. With wifi disabled the phone sleeps great, wifi on it is awake 1/2 of the sleep time
    As to the usefulness of the Moto bloat. To each his own, I don't need or use any of it. It is All bloat to me. The phone runs much smoother with out it all. Like I said touch less controls, to me, is a parlor trick at best and the Active display although somewhat usefull (checking the time) I find to be a waste. 90% of the time if I am pulling out my phone, it is to do something, thus the screen is coming on anyway. And I still wear a watch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by somfw View Post
    Turn them Both off, you will notice and increase in battery life, Not A huge one but enough to matter.
    The main reason people complain about battery life on the Nexus 5 is because of certain apps that drain it - Hot Word detection is a huge one! Then you have Location History and Location Reporting and commute sharing, which all turn on by default with Google now! Turn them off and the Nexus 5 gets the same or better battery life then the moto x.
    3:35 is acceptable at 45%, I am currently at 3:02 with 52% left with 19H30Mins on battery using only 4G. Over 14% of that battery drain was in total standby. The problem with the moto x is that the last 25% of battery life goes much faster then the first. If you had an honest 7+ hours of screen on time that would be Great for any std size battery Android. Unfortunately that is not the case, it is usually 5 to 6 hours or less depending how long the phone was on. Since an android connected and syncing even with all bloat disabled will lose about 1+% per hour and more the longer it is on.
    Also there is the fact that WiFi is messed up , over night, even with always scanning off and Never while sleeping engaged the Wifi is on 85+% of the time constantly waking the phone, I have been testing this with wifi or 4g. With wifi disabled the phone sleeps great, wifi on it is awake 1/2 of the sleep time
    As to the usefulness of the Moto bloat. To each his own, I don't need or use any of it. It is All bloat to me. The phone runs much smoother with out it all. Like I said touch less controls, to me, is a parlor trick at best and the Active display although somewhat usefull (checking the time) I find to be a waste. 90% of the time if I am pulling out my phone, it is to do something, thus the screen is coming on anyway. And I still wear a watch!
    Fair enough. I have gotten 7+ hours of screen time on my S4 several times and most were with more than 15 hours of awake time. Even had one with 25 hours or so.

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    Default Re: Verizon Moto X without Bloatware?

    The S4 had a larger battery, 2600 vs 2200 . Theres over an hour in that size difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidnc View Post
    This thread shows some bloatware that safe to disabled. I think there is another list showing more things safe to disable. There are somethings you shouldnt disable.Be careful what you disable dont just start disabling anything.I have a few things disabled not shown on this list.
    Bloatware is typically Apps that come pre installed and cant be uninstalled (without root), and are not wanted or used by the phone's owner .
    "Safe to disable" apps list [Verizon Bloatware]
    Can I safely disable these same apps on my VZW S3 with 4.3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somfw View Post
    The S4 had a larger battery, 2600 vs 2200 . Theres over an hour in that size difference
    The S4 has a larger screen and a higher resolution than the Moto X. Plus a less battery friendly processor

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    Please keep it civil. If you feel a post has crossed the line, report it and move on. No need to reply to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    The S4 has a larger screen and a higher resolution than the Moto X. Plus a less battery friendly processor

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    What!? You got rid of your X? How dare you.

    I only say that because I saw you said "when I had my moto x" in your earlier post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    The S4 has a larger screen and a higher resolution than the Moto X. Plus a less battery friendly processor

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SlimKat 4.4.2
    The Jury is out on whether or not the Screen size, resolution and processor had any effect on the moto x.
    Googlerola tried to convince everyone these things didn't need to be the Latest & Greatest or fastest & biggest etc. And in not making them that, the phone would then have better battery life etc. But nearly every reviewer came to a different conclusion
    The so Called "24 Hours of Mixed use" Battery life was debunked from day one. If your mix included 20+/- hours of standby!
    As it turns out, the moto x, while an improvement over the galaxy nexus or others from that era is no better than any other current android and worse then many in battery life.

    Besides my nexus 7 2013 gets double the battery life on a screen that is 42% bigger, a battery 95% bigger and using your terminology a "less battery friendly processor"

    Now tell me why a 32 GB nexus 7 4G is $100 less than a 32 GB nexus 5? All the same components sans the phone radio, one of them is over priced!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Bell View Post
    Can I safely disable these same apps on my VZW S3 with 4.3?

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    I dont have my vzw S3 anymore (active).When I was using my S3 it was rooted and romed.
    I cant remember all the exact bloatware apps that can be safely disabled on the S3,having used just the Moto X since Sept of last year..I would recommend asking that question in the S3 forums .I did a quick searched of the S3 forums but couldnt find a thread with an answer to your question.
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    A couple of posts here seem to indicate a deep misunderstanding of what "bloatware" is. Bloatware is not apps that contribute to the core advertised functionality of the device. When we complain about bloatware, it's typically carrier added or third party apps that paid the carrier to be on there (if you remember devices with blockbuster preinstalled) and/or apps that literally do nothing but duplicate functionality of core Google apps. The definition of bloatware is not, "stuff that I personally don't use and therefore want to disable or delete", there's already an existing phrase for that which is, "stuff that I personally don't use and therefore want to disable or delete".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    A couple of posts here seem to indicate a deep misunderstanding of what "bloatware" is. Bloatware is not apps that contribute to the core advertised functionality of the device. When we complain about bloatware, it's typically carrier added or third party apps that paid the carrier to be on there (if you remember devices with blockbuster preinstalled) and/or apps that literally do nothing but duplicate functionality of core Google apps. The definition of bloatware is not, "stuff that I personally don't use and therefore want to disable or delete", there's already an existing phrase for that which is, "stuff that I personally don't use and therefore want to disable or delete".
    One Man's Bloat is another.....
    So you are the ultimate authority on what is and what isn't bloat? I think you take your Moderator AKA "Glorified Hall Monitor" Badge to seriously.
    Granted, Some of the Google ones I listed are not Technically Bloat, But they are Crap and designed for 12 year olds - Screen Saver, Live wallpapers, Face Unlock, Google+ etc. But Everything I listed By Verizon and Motorola I and Many others Consider Bloat. Add in the fact that they are not part of KITKAT / Android and they to fall in your definition as well. Why you think Motorola apps are not Bloat and Verizons ones are is odd
    Using your definition of duplicating the function of core google apps. Then nearly everything I listed is Bloat especially the main one I touched on: Touchless Controls duplicates The disabled and faster Hot Word Detection, Though they altered it slightly to differentiate and use it as a selling gimmick.
    VZ Navigator Duplicates Google Maps
    Caller name ID & d2d call handler Duplicate The Disabled KitKat Dialer
    Moto Care / Device Management Duplicates The Android Device Manager app And the Built in Functions of it = Locate, Wipe and Lock.]
    Mobile Hotspot is solely for Verizon to make $ because they insisted on disbling WiFi Hotspot in KitKat.
    And the many others as well.
    Google / Android is Famous for having many Duplicate Function apps as well
    Like I said, One Man's bloat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    What!? You got rid of your X? How dare you.

    I only say that because I saw you said "when I had my moto x" in your earlier post.

    I am just messing with you though. :b

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    So you are the ultimate authority on what is and what isn't bloat?
    I think the point the Moderator was making was many people confuse true carrier/OEM bloatware with applications that they just don't feel the need for.
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