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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    But the reality of it is I have read comments from many people saying that they are deciding between this and the note 2. I know they are different but this is a very large phone just like the Note 2. So I would disagree with you based on buyer demographic.
    Face.Desk. Already stopped reading there.

    So let me get this straight a phone that's nearly identical in size to the GS3...is somehow just like the Note 2. So by your logic we don't need a Note 2, the GS3 is just like it. Got it.

    Is this distorted math and physics you do to make yourself feel better or....
    did you just skip Phil's own post..."But pound for pound, the Droid DNA and the Note 2 really are in different classes. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by zepfloyd View Post
    Face.Desk. Already stopped reading there.

    So let me get this straight a phone that's nearly identical in size to the GS3...is somehow just like the Note 2. So by your logic we don't need a Note 2, the GS3 is just like it. Got it.

    Is this distorted math and physics you do to make yourself feel better or....
    did you just skip Phil's own post..."But pound for pound, the Droid DNA and the Note 2 really are in different classes. "
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    Okay calm down. We are all friends here. :o Lol.

    I'm not saying they are in the same class but people buy all kinds of phones for different reasons. Someone may just be looking for a new larger screened device to upgrade from a smaller phone. The other specs don't mean as much. This is happening now all the time. So someone goes in to the store and looks at the note 2, the DNA, the S3, Razr maxx and maybe other devices. We on AC are very informed about what each phone does, but most buyers just see big. And although this phone is trying to compete against the s3, it looks much bigger when side by side with the s3 in my opinion.

    To prove my point read post #50. He was considering this phone but is opting for the Note 2 instead.

    So I agree on paper they are different, but not necessarily in a buying decision for many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    ...And although this phone is trying to compete against the s3, it looks much bigger when side by side with the s3 in my opinion.

    ..
    I don't think that is a common thought among those who have reviewed and have the phone. Most say it is nearly the same size as the GS3 for all intents and purposes. It is certainly exactly the same width, and perhaps , what 1/2 cm taller? It is MUCH MUCH closer in size to the GS3 than to the Note 2, both in person and on paper ..

    Here is a screen cap from a Slashgear video comparing the DNA to the GS3 (and to others). They are almost identical in size ...

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    The video is here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    I don't think that is a common thought among those who have reviewed and have the phone. Most say it is nearly the same size as the GS3 for all intents and purposes. It is certainly exactly the same width, and perhaps , what 1/2 cm taller? It is MUCH MUCH closer in size to the GS3 than to the Note 2, both in person and on paper ..

    Here is a screen cap from a Slashgear video comparing the DNA to the GS3 (and to others). They are almost identical in size ...

    The video is here:
    Well we can agree to disagree. My point wasn't so much about whether this phone is as big as the Note 2 or as small as the S3 as much as that people will opt to buy the Note 2 or the S3 compared to this phone simply because it doesn't measure up as well when you look at the needs of Mr. and Mrs. Average. I hope I'm wrong but this device is playing the exact same tune as the One X played. Sgs3-1 HOX-0

    My neighbor has the One X primarily because I suggested it. He loves the phone but says the battery is horrible. He said to me today that with moderate use his phone is dead before 7pm daily. This phone may be a bit better but not by much.

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    How much better is the battery on the one x+ though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoneguy108 View Post
    How much better is the battery on the one x+ though?
    I think it's the same battery as the one X.

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    Btw I just read another comment in another thread where someone was saying they were deciding between the GN2 and the DNA. Seems to be a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    Btw I just read another comment in another thread where someone was saying they were deciding between the GN2 and the DNA. Seems to be a trend.

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    I am not gonna start the different class discussions again, but for someone who thinks that the n2 is just too big, the dna is a nice compromise.

    Not to mention, they are the two new bada++es on the block right now and everyone like new Shiney things.

    Yes, I left the N4 off on purpose.

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    My tl;dr after 5 days of use:

    8-10 on LTE only.
    14+ on Wifi most of the day.

    It's at least as good as the GS3.

    Folks need to chill.
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    how much screen on time do you get by average?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Nickinson View Post
    My tl;dr after 5 days of use:

    8-10 on LTE only.
    14+ on Wifi most of the day.

    It's at least as good as the GS3.

    Folks need to chill.

    Thanks, good enough for me. I returned the GS3 because of its battery life, so I can now rule this phone out as well.

    Im going with the note2 simply because of the extra battery life. I would rather it be a little smaller but I like the extra battery life.
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    Engadget says:
    How does the 2,020mAh battery hold up to a screen that's constantly pushing more pixels? Our standard rundown, which involves running a video on an endless loop, resulted in the phone holding out for six hours and 38 minutes, which isn't quite as good a showing as we saw from the One X+ and Optimus G on the same test.
    The Verge says:
    In daily use, it frequently tapped out long before the day was over. Its certainly a phone that requires a trip to the battery charger at least once, possibly even twice, during the day to make it to the evening.
    and also later refers to
    miserable battery life
    However, Gizmodo says:
    the Droid DNA still lasted until 10pm every night with moderately heavy usage. It's certainly nowhere near the marathon levels of the Droid RAZR MAXX HD, but it outlasts the Galaxy S3.
    I don't know how to reconcile these, because Engadget makes it sound mediocre, The Verge makes it sound downright awful, and Gizmodo makes it sound solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaroad View Post
    I don't know how to reconcile these, because Engadget makes it sound mediocre, The Verge makes it sound downright awful, and Gizmodo makes it sound solid.
    I posted my observations about the various reviews in the other thread:
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!
    and
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!

    Don't know if it'd help you, but long story short, seems to be able to last anywhere between 4 hours to 30+ hours, depending on how hard you use your phone.
    I'll have to look at the new reviews that are out later today and see if they show the same trends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkScythe View Post
    I posted my observations about the various reviews in the other thread:
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!
    and
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!

    Don't know if it'd help you, but long story short, seems to be able to last anywhere between 4 hours to 30+ hours, depending on how hard you use your phone.
    I'll have to look at the new reviews that are out later today and see if they show the same trends.
    Sounds as if the theme is that the phone lasts a long time idling, but the screen drains the battery fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkScythe View Post
    I posted my observations about the various reviews in the other thread:
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!
    and
    I have a DROID DNA. You have questions. Fire away!

    Don't know if it'd help you, but long story short, seems to be able to last anywhere between 4 hours to 30+ hours, depending on how hard you use your phone.
    I'll have to look at the new reviews that are out later today and see if they show the same trends.
    Not sure how I missed those posts but thanks for the effort on putting down your 2 cents. Great explanation.

    The sad part is this phone isn't for me but I want it to be.

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    Many reviews list the battery life favorably, some do not for sure. The 3 sites listed above are a sample of about 15 reviews I have seen. More of them have been positive than negative on the DNA battery life, to be sure. More data on this and more real world tests will help all of us for sure. I would keep in mind that no 2 sites use the phone exactly the same testing methodology or do the same tests.

    Every person's use case is different as well. What is "acceptable" to one person may not be to another. In addition, lots of other factors will cause variances in reported battery life (from sites and from users). During a normal day of use, things that cause battery life variations are:
    - How often daily are you on wifi?
    - If you are in a 4G area, HOW GOOD IS YOUR SIGNAL ?
    - How frequently do you have your apps set to poll for data?
    - How much screen on time per day do you actually use?
    - What brightness is your screen at when you use it?
    - How many phone calls?
    - How much gaming do you do?
    - WHAT apps do you have running (some apps are poorer than others in the background)?
    - MANY MANY other factors (too many to list here)

    No answers to the questions above are right or wrong, but one can understand that there will be widely varied battery life reports based on ones usage. Since the title of this thread is WAIT AND SEE, I highly agree that it's a good idea to see what users think once its released. Review sites are great for sure, and helpful, but they are open to widely varied use cases, as all users are ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    Many reviews list the battery life favorably, some do not for sure. The 3 sites listed above are a sample of about 15 reviews I have seen. More of them have been positive than negative on the DNA battery life, to be sure. More data on this and more real world tests will help all of us for sure. I would keep in mind that no 2 sites use the phone exactly the same testing methodology or do the same tests.

    Every person's use case is different as well. What is "acceptable" to one person may not be to another. In addition, lots of other factors will cause variances in reported battery life (from sites and from users). During a normal day of use, things that cause battery life variations are:
    - How often daily are you on wifi?
    - If you are in a 4G area, HOW GOOD IS YOUR SIGNAL ?
    - How frequently do you have your apps set to poll for data?
    - How much screen on time per day do you actually use?
    - What brightness is your screen at when you use it?
    - How many phone calls?
    - How much gaming do you do?
    - WHAT apps do you have running (some apps are poorer than others in the background)?
    - MANY MANY other factors (too many to list here)

    No answers to the questions above are right or wrong, but one can understand that there will be widely varied battery life reports based on ones usage. Since the title of this thread is WAIT AND SEE, I highly agree that it's a good idea to see what users think once its released. Review sites are great for sure, and helpful, but they are open to widely varied use cases, as all users are ...
    The only negative comments I have seen have been from some of the review sites - the verge, etc, and, from users, who do not have DNA's in hand. I don't think I have seen any negative comments from any of those, who got early releases. My own experience has been very positive, but, I am not a heavy user, ie. I don't stream video for 8 hours at a time, ymmv I think for most normal users, the battery will be fine, and, once other users get DNA's in hand, I think it will be confirme. Though, for the guy that streams video constantly for hours at a time, it will probably be a let down.
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    The battery thing can go either way.

    Unfortunately, the 11 GB is locked in place with no way to improve that.

    No thanks.
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    I anticipate making some entries on batter life in 1 week, probably next Sat after we pick up our 2 on Weds !
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    Quote Originally Posted by junkie88 View Post
    Thanks, good enough for me. I returned the GS3 because of its battery life, so I can now rule this phone out as well.

    Im going with the note2 simply because of the extra battery life. I would rather it be a little smaller but I like the extra battery life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    Not sure how I missed those posts but thanks for the effort on putting down your 2 cents. Great explanation.

    The sad part is this phone isn't for me but I want it to be.

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    I am with you. If the phone had a little more storage and a better battery I would be all over this phone!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoneguy108 View Post
    I am with you. If the phone had a little more storage and a better battery I would be all over this phone!!!
    Ya, especially because cloud storage and streaming is going to be a must, the battery is going to be taxed even more. I run and use gps and music a lot, so adding more data streaming will kill this battery in a hurry. Not saying others phones won't, but on my SGS2 I just swap out my battery when I get back from my run and I'm back at 100 % and ready for my work day without having to plug it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    Not sure how I missed those posts but thanks for the effort on putting down your 2 cents. Great explanation.

    The sad part is this phone isn't for me but I want it to be.

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    Glad it was helpful for you.
    Yes, it is unfortunate that HTC chose to compromise the battery in such a way, but that's what we have to deal with.
    We just have to look at the facts and make a decision. I'll be looking over the new reviews momentarily to compare their numbers. I'll probably make a new summary post if anything significant has changed, or if people really want to read one, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkScythe View Post
    Glad it was helpful for you.
    Yes, it is unfortunate that HTC chose to compromise the battery in such a way, but that's what we have to deal with.
    We just have to look at the facts and make a decision. I'll be looking over the new reviews momentarily to compare their numbers. I'll probably make a new summary post if anything significant has changed, or if people really want to read one, haha.
    It would be great if there were some standardized tests for batteries that were used for all devices. It would be nice to be able to go to a website that compared different phones and how they perform in a variety of stress tests. Including a daily user test with a number of screen on times and media streaming. Seems like a good opportunity for a tech site. So many are all over the place and too subjective. Android Police seems to be trying to use a standard system but doesn't seem to be applying it to all reviews.

    Maybe I'm missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    Ya, especially because cloud storage and streaming is going to be a must, the battery is going to be taxed even more. I run and use gps and music a lot, so adding more data streaming will kill this battery in a hurry. Not saying others phones won't, but on my SGS2 I just swap out my battery when I get back from my run and I'm back at 100 % and ready for my work day without having to plug it in.

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    Makes sense. I do the same thing when I am on the long flight and my battery runs low. Simply swap the battery out and continue watching movies.
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