View Poll Results: Does your WiFi MAC address change after every reboot?

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  • Yes (and it DOES begin with 00:90:4C)

    18 52.94%
  • Yes (and it DOES NOT begin with 00:90:4C)

    2 5.88%
  • No

    14 41.18%
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    Default WiFi MAC Address Changes on Every Reboot

    Title says it all. From what I understand the issue is present in devices whose MAC address begins with 00:90:4C, as mine does, and after every reboot the last 6 values will change. Just curious as to how many others are out there with the same issue. It would be interesting to know if it only affects the aforementioned 00:90:4C devices or if others are included as well. Also, to anyone that is aware of the issue, is it a SW or HW issue? I'm curious because if it is indeed HW related (as I think it may be) I need to exchange my Nexus soon. If it is indeed SW related though I'm fine waiting for a fix. Not sure about my network admins though lol.

    There's a ticket open with Google regarding the issue as well:

    EDIT: Poll added
    Last edited by Iceman0803; 01-07-2012 at 05:15 AM.
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    Read your link. Is this an issue a replacement can fix? Someone mentioned it's only with devices starting with a certain Mac address.


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    Default Re: WiFi MAC Address Changes on Every Reboot

    Quote Originally Posted by CynicX View Post
    Read your link. Is this an issue a replacement can fix? Someone mentioned it's only with devices starting with a certain Mac address.


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    That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Some have been told it's a HW issue and have gotten replacements, while others have been told that it's a SW issue. As far as it only affecting certain MAC addresses, that's the purpose of the poll. To get an idea of weather or not that is true.
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    When I got home on Dec 15, I wrote down my MAC to keep track of it on my list of MAC's, and here's what I wrote down: 2C-44-01-C7-6F-77, not at all in the range right of the MAC address reporting the issue.

    No issues until last Thursday (Jan 19th). Wouldn't connect, only after verifying the password was correct, I looked at the router for the MAC listed on the Allowed List for MAC Address Filtering. My phone now had an address starting with 00-90-4c. How/Why? MAC addresses are NOT supposed to change, EVER. Even reverted to factory 4.0.2 without associating it with any wifi, same result, last 3 octets change every reboot. I had to disable MAC Address Filtering on my router at home, but at work I cannot.

    I've spoken with Samsung/VZW about this, GalaxySSupport via Twitter, and posted on the Google Code page. There was kernel code identified that will randomize a MAC address, but I don't know why it isn't affecting everyone, or if it a certain MAC address block range (serial #, or ?)....?

    Very annoying. I'm not sure if it is hardware or software, but personally I am leaning towards software given the kernel code that I've seen posted.
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    I responded NO to the poll, but then realized your poll question is specifically about the Galaxy Nexus.

    I've been using MAC address security filtering in my routers for years, and have all of my known wired and
    wireless device MAC codes recorded, and have never experienced any device that changed its own hardware MAC code, but I don't own a Galaxy Nexus, yet. My apologies for giving a bogus NO response.
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    MAC address filtering doesn't really qualify as a security measure. MACs are not necessarily unique, default address ranges are used on a per-brand basis, and they are reassignable and readily spoofable in many cases. The solution here seems to be, in my eyes, stop kidding yourselves and using MAC filtering on your routers.

    Turn WPA2 Personal with AES encryption, generate a very long, random password, and you'll have no problems. Or, if you're paranoid, set up a RADIUS server for your LAN.
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    Yes, I. Use WPA2 in addition to MAC filters.

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    I had this problem with the first Nexus I got...

    MAC Address changed

    I called Verizon support... who eventually transferred me to Samsung, where I spoke with a guy who said he was an engineer,,, as soon as I described the problem,,, he told me it was a hardware issue and to get a new phone.
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    Got mine replaced at the Verizon store under the 30 day window.
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    Here is what I've read on other forums from a an avid kernel developer about the MAC/Samsung/Google: there is a code in kernel to actually use a random generated MAC addresses. He even posted a code snippet from the Google image. It appears that instead of buying a range for MAC addresses and assigning each phone with one, Samsung/Google used a MAC generator for the use on the phone. I dont know if it was financial decision or technical.
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    Default Re: WiFi MAC Address Changes on Every Reboot

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRussian007 View Post
    Here is what I've read on other forums from a an avid kernel developer about the MAC/Samsung/Google: there is a code in kernel to actually use a random generated MAC addresses. He even posted a code snippet from the Google image. It appears that instead of buying a range for MAC addresses and assigning each phone with one, Samsung/Google used a MAC generator for the use on the phone. I dont know if it was financial decision or technical.
    The odd thing about it is that it seems to affect just a certain range of addresses and not all addresses used for the GNex.
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    ok, it is a software issue... i know this because my Droid X had the exact same issue after flashing a cyanogen rom. from that point on it was randomizing the last 6 places, but... i solved the issue buy running some commands in terminal that forced the address to remain, this is something that some rom devs need to watch out for, your trashing our static MAC addresses guys.... now, this problem has just started for me because this seemed to have started after running AOKP, and someone has botched something someplace... im looking up that pages now, but im almost willing to try it on my Gnex, im thinking its an Android level fix, not a hardware specific thing...

    some links to look at, for the devs... the command beginning with / w p 1 l 2 f 2 is what i have as the area of scripting that fixed it... im working on looking for the links

    these are in NO WAY stated for the Gnex, and would i recommend using them as a fix, but this is a good place to start on getting this fixed... and proof it is software level... if you try to claim that you didnt root your device, but you did, then your wasting your time by not giving all required information... if you really have not rooted, and have this issue, then by all mean press the matter to google, it means something in an update failed... read up ... and good luck

    if i run across and test the actual fix, ill be back, i noticed this issue just a litle late in the evening, as im still on less that 24 hours with AOKP rom... ill try to flash back to a nandroid of another rom like gummy, but this usually doesn't fix the problem... will let you know

    oh yeah... PS ... when i got this phone, and had enable a fixed ip on my router the first 6 numbers were 2C:44:01

    if i remember right, the first one was the page i used to fix my DX


    Last edited by migamix; 02-22-2012 at 09:36 PM. Reason: add numbers
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    Has anyone developing kernels fixed or created a workaround for this? Google doesn't care, so it is up to the dev community to fix it, but as far as I know, no developer has encountered this on his or her phone. Otherwise it would be fixed. Please developers, can't somebody fix their kernel to read the /factor/wifi/.mac.id file to get the real mac id of the device, or add some kind of mac id 'clone' feature so we can work around this?
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    Default Re: WiFi MAC Address Changes on Every Reboot

    Quote Originally Posted by daitsuwamono View Post
    MAC address filtering doesn't really qualify as a security measure. MACs are not necessarily unique, default address ranges are used on a per-brand basis, and they are reassignable and readily spoofable in many cases. The solution here seems to be, in my eyes, stop kidding yourselves and using MAC filtering on your routers.

    Turn WPA2 Personal with AES encryption, generate a very long, random password, and you'll have no problems. Or, if you're paranoid, set up a RADIUS server for your LAN.
    I disagree that it doesn't help.
    Even if you can spoof a MAC address, you'll have to find one that matches one that is allowed on the network.
    Last edited by pool_shark; 04-20-2012 at 06:18 PM.

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