[swampbaby]

Like the title says is anyone else underwhelmed with Android 10? Aside from a few cosmetic tweaks and whatnot from Pie, I really don't see anything about 10 that excites me. Honestly since installing 10 on my PIxel 3 my phone has randomly restarted at least once a day sometimes multiple times a day, I'm on Verizon so I had that phone call bug as well. So all in all with those issues and nothing particularly exciting about Android 10 I have to say that overall I'm underwhelmed by it. Surely I can't be the only one.

[anon(10092459)]

I actually like the build, but more for the security and privacy improvements than user facing features. Anytime security is advanced a build is worth doing for me.

[Golfdriver97]

Not all changes are those you can see.

OS updates as a whole are becoming less and less breathtaking. Just perhaps a sign of a maturing system?

[jaybotinc]

Someone said it well in another thread. It seems more fit to be called a 9.1. not worthless, but also not worth the hype.

(Hi from Reddit, lol)

[anon(10092459)]

Someone said it well in another thread. It seems more fit to be called a 9.1. not worthless, but also not worth the hype.

(Hi from Reddit, lol)

Now that you mention it, I think I saw this post on reddit too.. Oh gawd... PLEASE let's not turn this wonderful, sensible, and balanced forum into anything remotely associated with that Anarchical Dystopia. Arkham, that site.

[mustang7757]

I thought Android 10 supposed to be a polish up for Pie

[jaybotinc]

Now that you mention it, I think I saw this post on reddit too.. Oh gawd... PLEASE let's not turn this wonderful, sensible, and balanced forum into anything remotely associated with that Anarchical Dystopia. Arkham, that site.

But this post was fine I thought.

[anon(10092459)]

But this post was fine I thought.

Oh yah .. This post is definitely cool... I was just bitchin' bout them crazies over there. Lol!

[anon(10092459)]

Someone said it well in another thread. It seems more fit to be called a 9.1. not worthless, but also not worth the hype.

(Hi from Reddit, lol)

Let me take the thread a lil more serious and get us back on topic.

I honestly feel like there's too much pressure on all of tech to continue to "wow" every year. If I had my way, hardware design would advance every two years and OS every four, with point releases annually.

It feels like to me that everyone in the tech industry needs more time to think and develop products. 10.0 is fine, but it feels like a rushed build. Trying to do too much and having enough time to think things through much less complete builds.

We can see signs of this by the fact that there are announced features that aren't yet released. 1. Bubbles 2. Live Caption 3. Theming. All coming soon, but not ready upon final release. Screen recording and Desktop Mode, both signs of things Android wants to do but just didn't have time to flesh out for this build.

I think a point release annually allows for more development time without the pressure of a full step up every year.

[cbreze]

And don’t forget the “dark mode” which is being touted as a New feature of android 10 is not completely there yet either. Gmail? Nope. Assistant? Nope, to name 2 biggies that are still MIA. When these software companies have a drop dead date to hit on time I can understand how some things can’t be completely ready.

[B. Diddy]

Let me take the thread a lil more serious and get us back on topic.

I honestly feel like there's too much pressure on all of tech to continue to "wow" every year. If I had my way, hardware design would advance every two years and OS every four, with point releases annually.

It feels like to me that everyone in the tech industry needs more time to think and develop products. 10.0 is fine, but it feels like a rushed build. Trying to do too much and having enough time to think things through much less complete builds.

We can see signs of this by the fact that there are announced features that aren't yet released. 1. Bubbles 2. Live Caption 3. Theming. All coming soon, but not ready upon final release. Screen recording and Desktop Mode, both signs of things Android wants to do but just didn't have time to flesh out for this build.

I think a point release annually allows for more development time without the pressure of a full step up every year.

I agree with this completely. I don't want razzle-dazzle -- I want something that works smoothly and is secure. If each major update were a wholesale reinvention of the OS, this forum would be inundated with users clamoring to roll the update back because they just got used to the previous version (just look at any Samsung forum around the time One UI dropped)!

[11B1P]

And don’t forget the “dark mode” which is being touted as a New feature of android 10 is not completely there yet either. Gmail? Nope. Assistant? Nope, to name 2 biggies that are still MIA.

Isn't there an article in the..... main news room, sorry the term eludes me currently, on the Dark Theme for Gmail?

[cbreze]

Isn't there an article in the..... main news room, sorry the term eludes me currently, on the Dark Theme for Gmail?

Don't see the article but if it says dark mode is coming for Gmail and other things we already are aware of that. Just still waiting is all.

[mustang7757]

I agree with this completely. I don't want razzle-dazzle -- I want something that works smoothly and is secure. If each major update were a wholesale reinvention of the OS, this forum would be inundated with users clamoring to roll the update back because they just got used to the previous version (just look at any Samsung forum around the time One UI dropped)!

[jaybotinc]

Let me take the thread a lil more serious and get us back on topic.

I honestly feel like there's too much pressure on all of tech to continue to "wow" every year. If I had my way, hardware design would advance every two years and OS every four, with point releases annually.

It feels like to me that everyone in the tech industry needs more time to think and develop products. 10.0 is fine, but it feels like a rushed build. Trying to do too much and having enough time to think things through much less complete builds.

We can see signs of this by the fact that there are announced features that aren't yet released. 1. Bubbles 2. Live Caption 3. Theming. All coming soon, but not ready upon final release. Screen recording and Desktop Mode, both signs of things Android wants to do but just didn't have time to flesh out for this build.

I think a point release annually allows for more development time without the pressure of a full step up every year.

I think this is a good point. But let's not forget that Android itself made a big deal out of this, simply by calling it Q, er... 10. Had it been P.1 this would have been like a pretty cool surprise. Or P.DM (darkmode).

I think 2 years is more realistic for a new UU. But still, I agree w your overall point.

[Golfdriver97]

Oh yah .. This post is definitely cool... I was just bitchin' bout them crazies over there. Lol!

I remember my Keep guide was roasted on Reddit for using a separate camera to take screenshots as opposed to screenshots proper. I had just written several guides on recovery, and flashing Samsung ROMs in Odin mode where screenshots aren't possible. I grabbed my camera out of force of habit than anything else.

Reddit is fine to look at, very hit and miss to participate in.

[Golfdriver97]

I think a point release annually allows for more development time without the pressure of a full step up every year.

I'd almost want to take it one step further. This year, 10 came out. 2020, 10.1. Now, 2021, is when we get 2 OS versions: 11, obviously, and 20.2, the last build to fix any other bugs.

[B. Diddy]

I remember my Keep guide was roasted on Reddit for using a separate camera to take screenshots as opposed to screenshots proper. I had just written several guides on recovery, and flashing Samsung ROMs in Odin mode where screenshots aren't possible. I grabbed my camera out of force of habit than anything else.

Reddit is fine to look at, very hit and miss to participate in.

OMG, you're an absolutely terrible human being for using a separate camera. Worse than Hitler. You should be tried for crimes against nerdmanity.

I really don't understand people sometimes.

[Mike Dee]

And don’t forget the “dark mode” which is being touted as a New feature of android 10 is not completely there yet either. Gmail? Nope. Assistant? Nope, to name 2 biggies that are still MIA. When these software companies have a drop dead date to hit on time I can understand how some things can’t be completely ready.

Gmail app getting dark mode would be separate from 10

[cbreze]

Gmail app getting dark mode would be separate from 10

Independent of 10 maybe as in release timing , but it is a feature of 10 even tho not released with 10's debut and it was not a feature of 9.

[11B1P]

Don't see the article but if it says dark mode is coming for Gmail and other things we already are aware of that. Just still waiting is all.

https://www.androidcentral.com/dark-...-gmail-android

[Golfdriver97]

You should be tried for crimes against nerdmanity.

You're absolutely right. I should have used this: https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D850-FX...cUvbUpU6645640

[mustang7757]

You're absolutely right. I should have used this: https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D850-FX...cUvbUpU6645649

By the way it says you saved 350.00 under that cheap price tag

[ahaxton]

This happens LITERALLY every release. From my list I put together after Pie that is proving prophetic:
The cycle:
Upon release: Hey, this isn't as big an upgrade as it should be. <---- YOU ARE HERE
Shortly after release: I keep reading all these bad things. NOBODY wants to upgrade. This may be the worst most buggy release of Android ever.
Mid-Release: Hey, Google has fixed most of the problems.
Prior to new version: This version is SOOOO good, I don't want to upgrade.

[JoshuaPack]

The versioning is all made up, if you didn't know already. Each company makes up what a version number is. I remember when I first started learning programming, and wanted to know what the versions meant. I found out there is no standard people use and they just usually make up whatever. Then found out along the road, marketing gets involved and wants you to show it as a specific version because competitors are at that number. So let's skip a whole version number.

There are some people who wrote standards for it, but no one follows it. I wish someone did, it could give consumers a better idea what to expect, I would think.