10-27-2017 07:54 AM
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  1. Guy Katz's Avatar
    so after all the reviews, unboxings, etc the general theme is that this phone is far far away from justifying a 700$ price tag. horrid camera app, slowness of the OS under multi app regular usage etc.
    when do you guys feel the price will be dropped?
    I feel its gonna be sooner than later but i might be wrong
    09-10-2017 04:11 AM
  2. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    I feel due to the nature of the small business starting out with a premium built handset and low sales, they can't afford a price drop.

    I honestly wonder if they will still be a company in 2 years, they built a solid phone but it's lacking some key features and obviously has software issues. They had to delay it and I'm still left with the impression it wasn't ready to ship.
    09-10-2017 04:17 AM
  3. Guy Katz's Avatar
    my gut feeling says they will not be able to get this phone running decently before the end of the year.
    with the s8,v30 and pixel 2 around, essential essentially has a very low probability of selling its inventory with its current price tag.
    if they stick with 699, the stock will just start pilling.
    they could always cut a 100$ and say its a holiday season special so that other buyers will not be too upset
    09-10-2017 06:25 AM
  4. modifier's Avatar
    essential essentially has a very low probability of selling its inventory with its current price tag.
    if they stick with 699, the stock will just start pilling.
    How many devices have they produced, how many have they sold so far and how many are currently on backorder? It sounds like you have some insider information. Spill the beans. We'd love to know.
    09-10-2017 06:30 AM
  5. ChuckG73's Avatar
    This phone price is not going to drop any time soon...
    09-10-2017 06:37 AM
  6. Guy Katz's Avatar
    How many devices have they produced, how many have they sold so far and how many are currently on backorder? It sounds like you have some insider information. Spill the beans. We'd love to know.
    really I dont have any info. I am just watching rather closely at the fiasco called essential and I cant believe its actually going down the way it does...
    09-10-2017 07:01 AM
  7. Guy Katz's Avatar
    This phone price is not going to drop any time soon...
    I believe it will in holiday season after its set in stone that this phone pales in comparison to the competition. I mean, did you see the brightness and color differences between the v30's oled and the essential's lcd? it simply blew my mind ( see below).
    personally speaking, the only thing going for the essential phone right now seem to be the aesthetics & small form factor (both which are a matter of taste anyway)
    NOTE that I really like the essential phone but I cant see any justification for a 699$ price tag. seems like a 550-600$ phone to me tops

    09-10-2017 07:33 AM
  8. Ziich47's Avatar
    I dunno it's hard to say. I think I heard somewhere they their Target with the phone was a million units. I don't know how much they have sold at this point but let's not forget that they are in it for the long haul. They have a lot of funding and plan on releasing a whole suite of products. I dunno of we will see a price drop. All of the phones coming out are more than 700 (note 8, iPhone x) so they might not drop the price
    09-10-2017 07:42 AM
  9. modifier's Avatar
    I'll vote the price remains until the release of their next device. They haven't even released the other three colors or launched internationally. Buyers are waiting worldwide for both the phone and different colors.

    Regarding the V30 versus Essential, if the V30 is a better fit for someone then buy it. The whole this-vs-that comparisons are silly. Buy what fits your needs and stop caring about other devices. No one device fits everyone's needs. LG's obnoxiously colorful UI skin looks like a kindergartener designed it. No thanks.
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    09-10-2017 08:03 AM
  10. Guy Katz's Avatar
    I'll vote the price remains until the release of their next device. They haven't even released the other three colors or launched internationally. Buyers are waiting worldwide for both the phone and different colors.

    Regarding the V30 versus Essential, if the V30 is a better fit for someone then buy it. The whole this-vs-that comparisons are silly. Buy what fits your needs and stop caring about other devices. No one device fits everyone's needs. LG's obnoxiously colorful UI skin looks like a kindergartener designed it. No thanks.
    1. I like all devices...
    2. pixel launcher apk
    09-10-2017 08:49 AM
  11. modifier's Avatar
    1. I like all devices...
    2. pixel launcher apk
    I wasn't singling you out. The video makes it sound like someone has to choose the V30 over the PH-1 or they're making the wrong choice. It's just not that black-and-white. I'd gladly buy a V30 if it were a bit smaller, had a Wolfson or Burr-Brown DAC instead, and came with stock Android.

    Regarding launchers, I'm using the BlackBerry Launcher. It works brilliantly. No lag and absolutely smooth. The reviews might be mostly negative but I somehow got a lightning bolt of a device. That's even compared to the G6, S8 and KEYone I had.
    09-10-2017 09:03 AM
  12. Guy Katz's Avatar
    Regarding launchers, I'm using the BlackBerry Launcher. It works brilliantly. No lag and absolutely smooth. The reviews might be mostly negative but I somehow got a lightening bolt of a device. That's even compared to the G6, S8 and KEYone I had.
    good to hear something positive
    09-10-2017 09:08 AM
  13. pgood4's Avatar
    I'm using Nova and it works fine, you just have the notification area blacked out as opposed to it going the whole way to the edge. Mine has been flawless, no freezes, restarts or any problems. Build quality is redefining the standard and software will only get better.
    09-10-2017 09:59 AM
  14. fernandez21's Avatar
    my gut feeling says they will not be able to get this phone running decently before the end of the year.
    with the s8,v30 and pixel 2 around, essential essentially has a very low probability of selling its inventory with its current price tag.
    if they stick with 699, the stock will just start pilling.
    they could always cut a 100$ and say its a holiday season special so that other buyers will not be too upset
    Depends on their inventory, so far they haven't even been able to fill preorders.
    09-10-2017 10:51 AM
  15. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    Depends on their inventory, so far they haven't even been able to fill preorders.
    I agree. I ordered 26 days ago and Essential isn't even sure if they're going to fill the order.
    09-10-2017 12:54 PM
  16. Guy Katz's Avatar
    I agree. I ordered 26 days ago and Essential isn't even sure if they're going to fill the order.
    this is more of a failure in their operations rather than not meeting demand IMHO
    09-10-2017 03:05 PM
  17. msp1518's Avatar
    I cannot remember being more disappointed with a device or purchase. For me this has been nothing but a downer. Even the amazing ceramic construction is bothering me as it's as slippery as a stick of butter and in desperate need of a leather case or bumper.
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    09-10-2017 03:39 PM
  18. anon(4743061)'s Avatar
    If they sell them at $499 and in a less fingerprint catching color I would re-buy. I can tolerate the mediocre camera at that price. Will be interesting to see what they price all the returned phones.
    09-10-2017 05:33 PM
  19. firebirder's Avatar
    It seems to me that a lot of people, on here at least, like the phone. I believe I have read more positive reviews on these forums than complaints. I say that to say, what's worth $700 is different for everyone. I really don't see the price dropping soon. Even from a supply and demand standpoint, Essential, the company, is winning. Demand is ahead of supply. And people always say a phone isn't worth that price tag while others say it is.

    My opinion is that the iPhone isn't worth $1k for the 8, but most will disagree. I don't believe the Note 8 is worth $900+, and a lot disagree.

    As for the V30, I do admit it looks like a nice phone. However, I had nothing but problems with my G3, so it makes me wary of them. Took 3 phones before I finally got one that worked properly.
    09-10-2017 06:07 PM
  20. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    Handset prices have always been a little on the crazy side. The financing options keep people buying them despite the astronomical price tags. It's all about the monthly payment.
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    09-10-2017 09:01 PM
  21. fernandez21's Avatar
    Well, I just checked and the phone/camera combo I got for $749 is now $869 and looks like it will be $899 later.
    09-11-2017 01:19 AM
  22. dpackerz's Avatar
    It seems to me that a lot of people, on here at least, like the phone. I believe I have read more positive reviews on these forums than complaints. I say that to say, what's worth $700 is different for everyone. I really don't see the price dropping soon. Even from a supply and demand standpoint, Essential, the company, is winning. Demand is ahead of supply. And people always say a phone isn't worth that price tag while others say it is.

    My opinion is that the iPhone isn't worth $1k for the 8, but most will disagree. I don't believe the Note 8 is worth $900+, and a lot disagree.

    As for the V30, I do admit it looks like a nice phone. However, I had nothing but problems with my G3, so it makes me wary of them. Took 3 phones before I finally got one that worked properly.
    Agreed on LG. I had 2 that were working fine, then powered down permanently. Many people are complaining about lack of features. Essentials whole premise is give you a bare bones (and fast) phone and let you make it what you want. And that video showing how dark the Essential is? Please, it's the brightest phone I've owned. He had to have jacked the brightness down. I love mine. Minor issues will be resolved with software updates. Camera works for me. If you want a phone with an incredible camera, buy whatever one makes you happy. Camera is low on my list for a phone.
    09-11-2017 04:26 AM
  23. Guy Katz's Avatar
    Well, I just checked and the phone/camera combo I got for $749 is now $869 and looks like it will be $899 later.
    a gimmick is a gimmick no matter the cost. you paid an extra 50$ for something you will use for 5 minutes and then put aside.
    09-11-2017 05:30 AM
  24. modifier's Avatar
    a gimmick is a gimmick no matter the cost. you paid an extra 50$ for something you will use for 5 minutes and then put aside.
    Individual usage patterns aside, the price went up rather than down. This shows Essential isn't dropping prices anytime soon. If camera sales were weak they'd keep them at $50 just to help sell phones.
    09-11-2017 09:06 AM
  25. andrew_ackley's Avatar
    I'm holding out for pixel xl 2 and I'll pick between those two. Stock Android and nice hardware is fantastic.
    firebirder likes this.
    09-17-2017 04:18 PM
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