Camera Over-Exposes way too much.

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Guys if anyone knows about this, does shooting in raw help the highlights and exposure? (With or without editing the picture )
I've tried shooting in raw but they look almost the exact same as my jpeg files. How is this so?
 

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Another question haha, I just deleted a raw photo, but when I check smart cleaning it still says I have raw files on the phone. So basically deleting the raw photo will not delete the raw files? I'm confused
 

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Guys if anyone knows about this, does shooting in raw help the highlights and exposure? (With or without editing the picture )
I've tried shooting in raw but they look almost the exact same as my jpeg files. How is this so?
You do get more control with RAW because you're using the data straight out of the sensor before any automated processing. You get more contrast, highlights, shadows, and exposure control steps because nothing has been compressed yet.

A RAW image isn't directly viewable. It's like looking at the lines of code in a program. The info is there, but you can't make use of it until you run the program. In our case, you need a special viewer to see, and edit, RAW files. If you are using the stock gallery app, you'll see the jpeg that was also created like a normal saved picture. It will show a DNG notation on it to indicate an associated RAW file, but it's not the RAW file itself you're seeing.

You'll need something like Snapseed or one of the other editing apps capable of using RAW files, or an equivalent on a computer to do so. When you open it on the editor app, don't be surprised if it doesn't look the same as the associated jpeg, because it hasn't been put through the automated converting process that the jpeg has. The camera app applies various filters and adjustments to the RAW file itself (which is usually discarded unless you set it to save as RAW) when creating the jpeg to attempt making it look more real world.
Another question haha, I just deleted a raw photo, but when I check smart cleaning it still says I have raw files on the phone. So basically deleting the raw photo will not delete the raw files? I'm confused
If you delete the photo via the stock gallery app, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to delete the RAW file as well, even though they are two separate files. If you are deleting from a third party app, chances are it's only deleting the jpeg image. In this case, you'd have to use a file explorer to delete the DNG file, or the Smart Cleaning tool like you mentioned.
One last thing, how do u view the raw files other than in photo editing software? Can you view their sizes in file manager?

You can view file info in a file manager, but not the EXIF data that tells you what camera was used, resolution, exposure, etc. As I mentioned above, you'll need a dedicated editor to view them. There are no RAW viewers that I know of that don't act as an editor. That would actually be misleading in a way because most people don't realize that RAW files aren't a finished product like jpegs are and give them a false impression of the camera's abilities.
 

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Oh I know how to use the camera all right. But even in manual mode, lowering the exposure in bright scenes give you less detail in dark scenes than even the nexus 5's shot. This isn't lack of skill from me, it's simply bad image processing from lg.
Also, you shouldn't just have to go to manual mode to get a decent shot. I've had to resort to manual mode plenty of times when the g4 overexposed(even in hdr). I shouldn't have to do this. The auto mode on the phone simply isn't very good.

If you know how to use a camera then why are you exposing for the wrong part of the photo? You don't need manual, you just need to learn to analyse a scene properly. I am having great success with my G4 using Auto without going to RAW or HDR.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=b3AweThUYVg3TUNBUEtLU3ZlbThMdEpyM1hGYlVn
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=UHRHdjNabG5EY01WcS04MVJJd1YzdjhkYXUtYjlB
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=UW5nREllSmlHeHZWVkY4Q2h0NnppWjd3X3Z0Z2h3
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WVlVWXMxaUFCbHZRb1JOOUpjVzZSV00yQmlYYlJB
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=N2JYTGJ6OGZSS1FkbFJCaF9EMVQyUkNjUWEwakV3
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=Nl9VcmhuZWlfbExnMXpDR1Vkb3JvdHk1UElyb2lB
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=dnNzcUFndGZIMV9Zdl9lT3Fvc1d2Sm9UYVg2UmZR
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=YVlqUlN3cU41OFVUbGlsNlo0Q19EbWd4RFEwaVZB
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=RDk1YVRKZ1o1XzNqWC04cU81M1ZYcFdqV0VFN0Rn

I am not having any problems with bad image processing. Auto mode works spectacular for me.
 

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I took three shots with similar contrasts as the OP's original pics. In the first, I used auto and exposed based on the sky. This gives an underexposed "landscape" (I.e. The trailers) but nice sky similar to the OP's N6 pic. In the second, I auto exposed on the trailers, which made them look ok, but blew out the sky similar to the OP's G4 shot.

The last, I used manual and exposed the image in between, saving as a RAW. I then edited it in Photoshop Express (a little cumbersome to get to RAW files for editing, but better results). I tinkered with various aspects, including getting the sky more blue than it actually was at high noon, and balancing out the entire scene exposure. I also added in a few other somewhat artistic details to improve the image to my tastes and are going to be subjective. I will admit I don't have a lot of editing experience, so I know it's not as good as it could be.

Just wanting to show how much the photographer makes a difference, even when shooting in auto. So much of photography is artistic expression. What one person thinks is a good image, another may not. The auto mode was programmed by people to create their ideal image instantly, which may not be the same as the end user's tastes. Auto mode is fine if you need a quick shot, but exploring manual mode can be fun if you have a few seconds to really dial in the settings.

Edit: All of mine were shot in regular auto, not HDR.
 

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