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  1. sherlockpui's Avatar
    Good day all members,

    Today, something very unfortunate happened to me. My brother and I each met up with our sellers to purchase our pre-owned Galaxy Note 4's ($730 AUD for mine and $720 for his), both claimed to be 1 week old and in as new condition.

    When we got home, immediately we noticed both our Note 4's, while highly identical, are a little bit different. After careful examination and running several tests, I was devastated to find out mine is a very well built counterfeit. It's so well built to a point where I was not even a single bit suspicious that mine was a counterfeit while I was inspecting the phone before I made the cash payment, until I compared mine to my brother in law's. The parts that are supposed to be made of metal are made of metal. Please note that I had used galaxy S2, S3 and Note 3 before I decided to switch to a Note 4, therefore I could tell how a genuine galaxy feels like in my hands. Which is why I have decided to create an account here to create awareness that knock off's of this quality do exist.

    Please refer below for hardware comparisons:

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3351.jpg

    The one on the left is the counterfeit. Notice the difference in screen vibrancy and the 'back' and 'recent tabs' buttons are not lit on the counterfeit.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3352.jpg

    The one on the left is the counterfeit. There are slight differences in the size and shape of the home button and bezels.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3353.jpg

    The one on the left is the counterfeit. Notice the slight differences in the front camera size and position, the size of the font and the shape of the speaker.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3354.jpg

    The one on the left is the counterfeit. Notice the difference in colours and fonts of the notification bar. The type on the counterfeit belongs to an older model, Galaxy S4 or so.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3357.jpg

    The one on top is the genuine copy. Notice the difference in the colour of the sleep button, the one on the counterfeit has silver edges while the one on the genuine copy is all white in colour.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3359.jpg

    The one on the left is the counterfeit. Notice the difference in the shape of the flash, even the shape of the camera lens is slightly different.

    Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-_dsc3360.jpg

    The one on top is the counterfeit. The original battery has a lot more wordings on it. The sim card and sd card slots are also different.


    Apart from the above, I have run a spec test on the counterfeit using the app "spec device". The results show that the RAM is 1gb instead of 3GB, internal storage is 16GB instead of 32GB, screen resolution and PPI are also substantially lower on the counterfeit. Which is why it feels laggier than the genuine note 4 and the screen is not as sharp and vibrant. The S Pen is also harder to pull out on the counterfeit compared to the original one.

    I also noted that the firmware of the counterfeit has less features than the genuine note 4. For e.g., the camera lacks selective focus and the ability to download more camera modes and there is no option to change screen sensitivity. They both run on kitkat 4.4.4 but after googling the build number of the counterfeit, I found out that the ROM installed on the counterfeit belongs to Galaxy S5. The boot screens are also different, the one on the counterfeit shows an Android Robot with jelly beans instead of the model name. I did not find this out after I got home because the seller passed the phone to me without switching it off. Should I have realised this during inspection I would have been suspicious.

    I also did an IMEI search for the counterfeit on several different websites. 2 of them say my phone is a Nokia registered in 2009 and 2 other websites say my phone is an S4.

    Samsung Kies and Odin won't recognise the counterfeit but the computer does.

    At this stage, I am trying to obtain a refund from the seller but the chances are slim as this was a cash deal so I am not covered by paypal or ebay. Can only hope for the best.

    So, beware fellow members! Knock offs are getting better and better. Nowadays they can't be differentiated just by spotting spelling mistakes or build quality. You have to really inspect or know the phone inside out before making a purchase. Lesson learned
    11-21-2014 07:30 AM
  2. MightyMike's Avatar
    Dang, Hate that happened to you. I know you have got to be HOT! EBAY wouldn't have nothing to do with this. That is fraud, plain and simple. At minimum I would call the BBB and your States Attorney offices. YOU may Not be the only one and it is illegal, you should report this to them . Just my 2¢. What was the sellers name on eBay. I would put it on FB too. Even the lettering looks a little different on the back of the phone, but if you had never seen one, it does look legit.

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    11-21-2014 09:10 AM
  3. iamdld's Avatar
    Hope you get your money back. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
    11-21-2014 09:27 AM
  4. Duncan1982's Avatar
    Very informative and best of luck to you sir :-)

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    11-21-2014 10:52 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    Sorry this happened to you. I stuck this thread so that hopefully others will not get swindled. Btw, did you try the fingerprint scanner and heart rate monitor?

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
    11-21-2014 10:59 AM
  6. sherlockpui's Avatar
    Hi MightyMike thanks for your concern. This is not an eBay sale, i found this on a site called Gumtree Australia where sellers post ads and we contact them for face to face dealings. So it was a cash trade, I won't be protected in anyway. Should have been more careful I have saved all the sms between the seller and I, hopefully can be used as evidence if i'm going to make a police report should i fail to recoup my money.
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    11-21-2014 11:15 AM
  7. sherlockpui's Avatar
    I did try the fingerprint scanner and heart rate monitor, they both worked. The fingerprint scanner works 3/4 times. It's like 70% of a real Note 4, but a laggier, lower resolution and less features version.
    11-21-2014 11:18 AM
  8. iGalione's Avatar
    that outright sucks, that site reminds me of craigslist, in which I do my selling all the time, and this is unfortunate that they sold u a counterfeit paperweight...
    11-21-2014 06:47 PM
  9. cruiserandmax's Avatar
    If it makes you feel any better- the finger print scanner on my real Note 4 only works on about 75% of swipes.
    11-22-2014 12:20 PM
  10. Tkbredx's Avatar
    Dang man. That sucks. I never knew fakes had gotten so good.
    Glad you realized though. Hope you get your money back, or the guy that ripped you off gets what's coming to him. Good luck!
    11-22-2014 01:05 PM
  11. sherlockpui's Avatar
    Thanks! The seller promised to meet me yesterday but decided to switch off his phone and haven't heard from him for over a day. Went to the police station, lady at the counter Told me they don't do reports for scams like this. She told me to lodge a report with scamwatch, and I did. I doubt anything will be done though. I just have to get over it and hope no one else gets scammed!
    11-22-2014 08:13 PM
  12. Jeffrey Ulatan's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    11-23-2014 01:45 AM
  13. Tkbredx's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    Looks fake to me bro. Cameras off. No heart rate sensor? Hell the whole device looks smaller tbh and more round. And the bezel at the bottom of the is shorter. Speaker on the back looks different. I don't even see an S Pen... Definitely fake.
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    11-23-2014 12:00 PM
  14. dhendriksen's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    Yeah, that's definitely not a legit Galaxy Note 4. That doesn't even look like a good copy like what the OP got.
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    11-23-2014 02:27 PM
  15. rvhs03's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    Definitely fake. All the things the last poster said, plus it says 16 GB on the label. Note 4 is 32/64. No 16 GB at all.

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    11-23-2014 02:30 PM
  16. wreels's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    Wow does the back of that box say Full HD (1080p) Super AMOLED and 13 MP Camera? Don't pay him dude! And report this as fraud to ebay! People go out of their way to defraud others. This is pathetic!
    11-23-2014 08:02 PM
  17. osvanberg's Avatar
    Fake 100%
    11-24-2014 05:17 AM
  18. new2thisyeah's Avatar
    This has me worried. I just purchased a Note 4 online on ebay, and the back camera looks entirely different.

    Ebay item number 161494056872

    Seller claims this is the SM-N910X international version. Is there such a thing? Can someone confirm if this is real? I did not pay yet, but I already purchased it.

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    Even the design of the box is fake. My phone did not come in a wood-inspired box... it was white.
    11-24-2014 09:46 AM
  19. Ali Hamit's Avatar
    This happened with me for the Galaxy S4. Since then I always check the imei before I purchase.
    11-24-2014 11:53 AM
  20. Jeffrey Ulatan's Avatar
    Wow does the back of that box say Full HD (1080p) Super AMOLED and 13 MP Camera? Don't pay him dude! And report this as fraud to ebay! People go out of their way to defraud others. This is pathetic!
    Thanks Guys! I contacted the seller, and told him it was fake, and he cancelled the order. He will probably relist it again so be on the lookout!
    11-24-2014 06:01 PM
  21. micktwo's Avatar
    thanks for the heads up
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    11-25-2014 03:27 AM
  22. doohsun's Avatar
    Man i'm so glad that i didn't buy it through Kiijii that was my biggest concern not knowing what to look for.
    11-25-2014 10:07 AM
  23. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Even the design of the box is fake. My phone did not come in a wood-inspired box... it was white.
    Edit: Oops, I was wrong. My S4 came in a wood inspired box.

    US Cellular Note 4s come in a box like this:

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    11-25-2014 07:11 PM
  24. Joke Adema's Avatar
    hello
    i am sorry this is happened to you
    i hope you get your money back i am affraid not
    good luck with it
    11-26-2014 06:54 AM
  25. sherlockpui's Avatar
    No chance of getting my money back from the seller. He has disappeared planning to sell it off as a Clone, hopefully will be able to recoup half of what I lost
    11-26-2014 07:01 AM
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