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  1. Coraya's Avatar
    No, didn't say that. You may take it that way but not what I said. Just being honest is all, sometimes people don't know how to take honesty. I'm just saying let's stop beating a dead horse with this removable battery thing. We get it Note 4 users love the removable battery. The fact is, is it's gone and not coming back.
    It's not all about the removable battery. The Note 4 is a better all around phone than the Note 5. At least that's one opinion most of us share. The Note 4 is far from being obsolete. The Note 7 isn't enough of an upgrade for some of us. I look for value in the money I spend. I don't look to buy something simply because it's new. I love the water resistance, but not at $900+. My Note 4 is great and I'll keep it until next year when I will upgrade to the Note 8. You don't have to attack people over their opinions. If they don't find value in a product, they won't buy it for any cost.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    08-03-2016 04:14 PM
  2. itguyjax8430's Avatar
    It's not all about the removable battery. The Note 4 is a better all around phone than the Note 5. At least that's one opinion most of us share. The Note 4 is far from being obsolete. The Note 7 isn't enough of an upgrade for some of us. I look for value in the money I spend. I don't look to buy something simply because it's new. I love the water resistance, but not at $900+. My Note 4 is great and I'll keep it until next year when I will upgrade to the Note 8. You don't have to attack people over their opinions. If they don't find value in a product, they won't buy it for any cost.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    It's one thing to have an opinion but another to constantly trash any new phone that is not exactly like the Note 4. Maybe I was a little too blunt in my reply, my bad. At the same time let's stay on topic and not turn this in to a bashing of the Note 7 thread and keep to the thread title.
    dkp and dsignori like this.
    08-03-2016 04:21 PM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    If they don't find value in a product, they won't buy it for any cost.
    This is true.
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    08-03-2016 04:23 PM
  4. llfloyd79's Avatar
    Yup. Already pre-ordered.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-03-2016 04:29 PM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    The Note 4 is a better all around phone than the Note 5. At least that's one opinion most of us share.
    Who is "most of us"? Prior to you posting that, I knew of one or two people who thought that and thought 99% of people thought the Note 5 was better. There was a small group of people when the Note 5 first released complaining about lack of removable whatevers, and then as the year went on most of them bought a Note 5 or S7 Edge.
    dkp likes this.
    08-03-2016 04:33 PM
  6. razortaz18's Avatar
    I wonder how much a used Note 5 will get you on Swappa or other sites once they are flooded with them ?People should have sold their 5 last month
    That's what I did a few weeks ago in preparation for the Note 7. After the announcement I ended up ordering an S7 Edge....
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    08-03-2016 04:34 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yeaaaahhhh..... They'll never bring back the SD card said the oracle

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-03-2016 04:39 PM
  8. badMojo69's Avatar
    I'm still on note 3 and also passing - I am so unbelievably disappointed.
    Why? IR blaster never coming back, removable battery never coming back, flat screen never coming back (other than the base model). I don't see an issue with the platform shift. It's a great way to keep cost down and set expectations. I don't think I've use a IR blaster on a mobile divice since my Casio TV Watch back in the 90s.
    08-03-2016 05:11 PM
  9. dkp's Avatar
    The Note 7 is not an upgrade over the S7 Edge. It's an upgrade over the Note 5, if you are not a Note user than why would you consider the Note 7.
    I can kind of understand.

    In the past a lot of people tolerated the spen and the extra weight to get the best phone if the year.

    That is really a waste for both Samsung and consumers.

    If use the spen a lot (I do) the nothing beats the note. If you don't then you have a fantastic alternative in the s7e.
    Aquila and Shelacios like this.
    08-03-2016 05:15 PM
  10. dkp's Avatar
    It's one thing to have an opinion but another to constantly trash any new phone that is not exactly like the Note 4. Maybe I was a little too blunt in my reply, my bad. At the same time let's stay on topic and not turn this in to a bashing of the Note 7 thread and keep to the thread title.
    Just gonna say that I think the note 4 is obsolete. Software and camera especially.

    I've had phones with removable batteries and they are major pain in the rear. I'd prefer a better battery life (low energy processor plus battery capacity) quick charge, wireless charge, and a quick charging battery pack the rare occasion I need it.

    There I've expressed my opinion. I am not in the "most of us" category apparently.
    08-03-2016 05:22 PM
  11. itguyjax8430's Avatar
    Yeaaaahhhh..... They'll never bring back the SD card said the oracle

    Posted via the Android Central App
    SD Card was an easy add back, removable battery not so much.
    08-03-2016 05:26 PM
  12. dsignori's Avatar
    ...

    If use the spen a lot (I do) the nothing beats the note. If you don't then you have a fantastic alternative in the s7e.
    If you don't use the S-Pen, the Note is still a great phone. I go through spurts of using the S-Pen, not using it. Even if I never used it, the Note 5 (and I bet the Note 7) would be well worth it. I can't wait for my new one to arrive
    08-03-2016 05:28 PM
  13. Grim x Reaper's Avatar
    I don't know why some people are so disappointed because they didn't see 6gb or 4000mAh on the Note 7.. Let me tell you 4gb and 3500mAh are more than enough to get you through a long day specially with the new software and system management and tons of bloatware been removed like they did in the s7. I don't know about you but I'm definitely buying the new note.
    08-03-2016 06:11 PM
  14. rushmore's Avatar
    Jeepers, I am like the chubby pilot in Star Wars, but instead of "Stay on target", my line is "Stay on topic". Pew pew!

    My local corporate Verizon store has one on display, so will test it out tomorrow and decide

    BTW, sealed batteries and sd slots are probably here to stay. The former helps reduce the smart phone retirement curve and the latter Samsung invested millions in getting cards to 256GB (ceiling was 200gb for current micro sd tech). Samsung is going to need to sell a LOT of cards to make that up and the number one device that uses them is smart phones.

    Ask a Samsung rep and they would tell you that the previous devices were hurt sales wise without them. Look how well the S7's are doing.

    Ah! Stay on topic!
    08-03-2016 06:14 PM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    SD Card was an easy add back, removable battery not so much.
    I've learned to never say never. I'm still waiting for the next ground breaking feature to come like a regenerative charging system.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-03-2016 06:20 PM
  16. Poppy59's Avatar
    Although I have an edge 7, I'm starting to warm to it. I'll be closely monitoring the reviews over the next few weeks before I make my final decision, can't decide between the black and coral blue colours, they both look superb!

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-03-2016 06:27 PM
  17. itguyjax8430's Avatar
    I've learned to never say never. I'm still waiting for the next ground breaking feature to come like a regenerative charging system.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    That would be cool or some kind of solar charging built in.
    08-03-2016 06:35 PM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    I've learned to never say never. I'm still waiting for the next ground breaking feature to come like a regenerative charging system.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    If I recall correctly they only removed the SD card since they couldn't get the water proofing. That's the only reason it was gone in the S6.

    If we believe what Samsung said.
    08-03-2016 06:44 PM
  19. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I plan on buying it. Trying to decide to order it or just go after it's released and buy it in the store. What do you all think?I hear stories about people saying they got their pre orders after release date and they could have bought it in the store sooner.
    08-03-2016 06:51 PM
  20. anon(782252)'s Avatar
    I plan on buying it. Trying to decide to order it or just go after it's released and buy it in the store. What do you all think?I hear stories about people saying they got their pre orders after release date and they could have bought it in the store sooner.
    Depends how soon you preorder and who you are with. T-Mobile is notorious for shipping early. This will be my first preorder with them so I hope I don't jinx everyone and we get it early. Ha!

    Previously I was with Sprint and did all my preorders at best buy so i never got the phones early.
    08-03-2016 07:03 PM
  21. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I'm waiting to see if I can snag a global variant from a place like B&H.

    If it's like the S7, then it should work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
    08-03-2016 07:06 PM
  22. speedlever's Avatar
    I'm trying to understand what "hardware” features you value more than the way better hardware on the Note 7? Removable battery? You guys are just going to have to get over it. It's gone and Samsung will not be bringing it back. I think I can speak for the majority of people that are REAL Note fans and say we are tired of hearing the Note 4 people crying about the removable battery issue. It's gone, if you have nothing positive to say about the Note 7 just stay over in the Note 4 section and praise your obsolete Note 4.
    Never say never. I heard the exact same statement about SD cards. And yet here we are with SD cards again.
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    08-03-2016 07:12 PM
  23. nonie's Avatar
    I'm waiting till its in stores, I want to see it and play a little. I buy my phones full price and am on att go phone. I find this plan to be cheaper then contract.

    Posted from Android Central.
    on Samsung Galaxy s5
    08-03-2016 07:14 PM
  24. speedlever's Avatar
    If I recall correctly they only removed the SD card since they couldn't get the water proofing. That's the only reason it was gone in the S6.

    If we believe what Samsung said.
    Don't forget the S5 was IP67 certified. It had both a removable battery and the SD card slot.
    08-03-2016 07:21 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    I'm seeing this "power user" myth crop up again and it needs to be dispelled. Power users are not users of any one particular feature. They're users who push the limits of productivity with the best available hardware. In 2014 the power users probably bought Note 4's. In 2015, the power users would have bought Note 5's or Nexus 6P's. In 2016 they're buying the S7 Edge, Note 7, Nexus Marlin, Axon 7, etc, etc. Real power users are not limited by the features of any particular device, they buy the best device available and then find a way to get their tasks accomplished. Hand them a Moto G, they're still a power user, they're going to get more out of it than your grandfather will. Because it's the PERSON that's the power user, not the S-Pen, or the Waterproofing or the LED flash or any single set of features.

    What kind of a "power user" would throw away 100 improvements in order to gain one that they're just not willing to solve for? That's how amateurs behave, not power users. Power users take their limits and push them. Amateurs skillfully play within the limits as they understand them. If a removable battery is your definition of a power user, I'm sorry but that's just flat out wrong and it's an attitude that no power user would dare admit to because it's an admission of inability to actually be the driver of their own destiny.

    There are several innovations that made replaceable batteries a moot point. Now, several users still PREFER the one solution they're familiar with over the others, but that doesn't make the others cease to exist. And all of the others are better for the device than hot swapping. They're not wrong for having a preference, but it would be wrong for us to take them at their word that they're power users - because a power user wouldn't be lamenting, they'd be out solving problems.

    I'm not saying any of this to insult anyone, this is just an important distinction. Power users define their experience, they don't let the hardware define it. They're like MacGyver. They can get you your 10 hours of SOT out of a banana. And give you half of it back to make banana bread. With your shoelace. So let's no longer entertain the myth of power user when the power user says they are reliant on ANY nonstandard feature in order to achieve their status.

    08-03-2016 08:00 PM
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