1 month review of the S5 from an Apple guy......

[Philipp Yeo]

I'm an GS5 owner and I can definitely relate. I love and hate Samsung for their phones, they're just so lazy to fix and design it properly.

You know those people who are smart but are too lazy to use their intelligence, Samsung is like that! Apple works for perfection, sure they're slow but the product comes at as a reliable phone.

Samsung needs to improve their phones. (Starting with the GS5, you can still fix the lag and freezing, Samsung!)

 

[Aquila]

So what you're telling me is that Samsung made the close all apps button, but didn't intend people to use it to close all of the apps? I'm confused.

In this case, yes. It's a legacy feature that they keep including - however it is more detrimental to resource management to interfere with the dynamic handling built into the OS. The exception to this is when trying to troubleshoot a specific rogue app issue and/or wake-lock, etc. In daily practice it's better to let Android handle RAM, processing power, etc.

 

[Timm4y77]

In this case, yes. It's a legacy feature that they keep including - however it is more detrimental to resource management to interfere with the dynamic handling built into the OS. The exception to this is when trying to troubleshoot a specific rogue app issue and/or wake-lock, etc. In daily practice it's better to let Android handle RAM, processing power, etc.

So how do I close apps I no longer intend to use? Such as PayPal that I only use once in a great while?

 

[Aquila]

So how do I close apps I no longer intend to use? Such as PayPal that I only use once in a great while?

In the case of it going rogue and taking up a huge amount of battery, force closing is a good option. Under "normal" circumstances you wouldn't have to do anything, the OS would kill the app when it needed whatever resources the app may be taking up. I don't know why that specific app would need to run in the background unless it's one that needs to be accessed by other apps.

 

[joe watson1]

I'm confused. Is this a paypal app issue? A Samsung issue? Or a Android issue? Or all of the above?

 

[ABOSWORTH007]

I assume that you're using the stock email app when you click on tracking numbers? The stock email app by Samsung sucks, to be frank. I would download a different one. I use Aqua Mail and it brings me to the tracking page when I click the link. There are many other ones you could try as well. For me Aqua Mail is best.

That is one of the few things I like better about the iPhone. The stock email app is superior to the Samsung one. Good thing as that's the one you're stuck with. The Samsung one sucks but at least you can use a different one.

 

[Wildo6882]

Lol. So I have to download another app. Awesome. Thank you. One more thing to drain my battery when it doesn't "close" when I "close all" of my apps.

For one, don't close your apps. That actually makes your battery life worse and makes your phone run slower. The one thing people have to realize is that Android IS NOT iOS. Don't try to make it be iOS. It isn't. And it won't be. Things are done differently.

And just to clarify, I absolutely love both OSes. I switch between them more than my wife would like me to. The one thing that makes the switch easier is understanding that they aren't the same. Yes they do a lot of the same things. But they do them differently. Trying to make them do things the same way will oftentimes cause frustration and the desire to go back to what you're used to. I know this firsthand because I'm a frequent flyer of the Android/iOS swap.

 

[Timm4y77]

I assume that you're using the stock email app when you click on tracking numbers? The stock email app by Samsung sucks, to be frank. I would download a different one. I use Aqua Mail and it brings me to the tracking page when I click the link. There are many other ones you could try as well. For me Aqua Mail is best.

That is one of the few things I like better about the iPhone. The stock email app is superior to the Samsung one. Good thing as that's the one you're stuck with. The Samsung one sucks but at least you can use a different one.

I am using Aquamail.

For one, don't close your apps. That actually makes your battery life worse and makes your phone run slower. The one thing people have to realize is that Android IS NOT iOS. Don't try to make it be iOS. It isn't. And it won't be. Things are done differently.

And just to clarify, I absolutely love both OSes. I switch between them more than my wife would like me to. The one thing that makes the switch easier is understanding that they aren't the same. Yes they do a lot of the same things. But they do them differently. Trying to make them do things the same way will oftentimes cause frustration and the desire to go back to what you're used to. I know this firsthand because I'm a frequent flyer of the Android/iOS swap.

Wow. If you read half the threads here they tell you to go into the app info and force close your apps. Now I'm being told not to close them at all? Can you explain to be how PayPal cab use 20% of my battery 4 days after I stop using it? The Capital One all did almost the same thing, 2 days later, 14% battery drain when I hadn't reopened it .......

 

[Aquila]

Wow. If you read half the threads here they tell you to go into the app info and force close your apps. Now I'm being told not to close them at all?

It's simple knowledge lag. In the early days of Android, task managers and manually managing RAM was ... it was possible to get a benefit, but barely. Android was nowhere near as good at managing resources as it has become and bad apps were more likely to get stuck in the full auto position. This was mostly fixed in 2011 and completely fixed in 2012 - but there wasn't a world-wide announcement, it's been taking this long to get everyone to understand that these apps are more harmful than good.

The same thing happens with batteries. People believe you should let a battery run all the way down in order to reduce the number of times it is discharged or charged (it varies) and they believe that you shouldn't leave it sitting on a charger. Both are absolutely false and have been false almost as long as smart phones have been smart. But it's taking this long to get people to understand that they're harming their devices.

 

[Wildo6882]

Wow. If you read half the threads here they tell you to go into the app info and force close your apps. Now I'm being told not to close them at all? Can you explain to be how PayPal cab use 20% of my battery 4 days after I stop using it? The Capital One all did almost the same thing, 2 days later, 14% battery drain when I hadn't reopened it .......

At this stage in the game, don't close anything unless it's actually acting up. If you're having issues with an app, clear the cache first, then if it still persists force close it through the app settings. Otherwise, don't close apps. I have no clue why those apps are using that much battery. Contact the developers for them. I use PayPal on my Nexus 5 all the time and don't see it using that much battery. I would suggest going into the app, clearing the cache for it, deleting the app, and reinstalling it. I had to delete apps numerous times from iOS due to battery drain or other issues. This isn't necessarily an Android only problem.

 

[ABOSWORTH007]

I am using Aquamail.



Wow. If you read half the threads here they tell you to go into the app info and force close your apps. Now I'm being told not to close them at all? Can you explain to be how PayPal cab use 20% of my battery 4 days after I stop using it? The Capital One all did almost the same thing, 2 days later, 14% battery drain when I hadn't reopened it .......

That's odd. I just clicked on a FedEx email and it brought me to the tracking page when I clicked on the tracking number. The only time I've seen it bring up the dialer was when I had a USPS email that listed the tracking number. If I click the tracking number, it will bring up the dialer but right below the tracking number was a link to the tracking page so I just click that instead.

As far as people saying to never close apps, I find that silly. I don't want to have 50 apps in the switcher. I use the switcher to flip between apps that I'm currently using. If I'm not going to use it for a while, I remove it from the switcher. I don't care what anyone tells me, that's how I'm going to use my phone.

 

[thecomicbookandme]

I use the switcher to flip between apps that I'm currently using.


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[Aquila]

Clearing from recent apps isn't the same as closing them. We're talking about force closing via the apps part of settings or via a task manager.

XTNiT-1060 through spacetime. Android Central Moderator.

 

[Timm4y77]

At this stage in the game, don't close anything unless it's actually acting up. If you're having issues with an app, clear the cache first, then if it still persists force close it through the app settings. Otherwise, don't close apps. I have no clue why those apps are using that much battery. Contact the developers for them. I use PayPal on my Nexus 5 all the time and don't see it using that much battery. I would suggest going into the app, clearing the cache for it, deleting the app, and reinstalling it. I had to delete apps numerous times from iOS due to battery drain or other issues. This isn't necessarily an Android only problem.

Clearing cache, uninstall, reinstall, really starting to miss my iPhone. These are the things no one talks about in the iPhone vs Android discussions. I NEVER had to reinstall an app on my iPhone to get it to work correctly.

 

[Wildo6882]

Clearing cache, uninstall, reinstall, really starting to miss my iPhone. These are the things no one talks about in the iPhone vs Android discussions. I NEVER had to reinstall an app on my iPhone to get it to work correctly.

That's what it takes to fix a bad app or bad app install. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. There is no way to clear the cache in iOS. You HAVE to delete the app. Just because you never had to do that doesn't mean iOS is immune to it. I had to do it on my iPhone 5 due to an app sucking down my battery. Does that mean iOS sucks? No. It meant there was a bad app install. Same thing here. I don't have that issue with PayPal on my Nexus 5. Doesn't mean your problem isn't legit. It means that's how you try to fix it. I was trying to help you fix it so you would enjoy your phone more.

And Android isn't for everyone. If it doesn't work out for you, no biggie. IOS is great. I love it. I may still go back to it once I see the 6 (if I can afford it!). So there's no harm in going back. Just thought I'd toss out some pointers as to how to fix some issues and enjoy your phone more while you still have it.

 

[Aquila]

Clearing cache, uninstall, reinstall, really starting to miss my iPhone. These are the things no one talks about in the iPhone vs Android discussions. I NEVER had to reinstall an app on my iPhone to get it to work correctly.

They're things that don't come up on most devices... here they're used to try to work out bugs in rogue apps. If either thing were required on a daily or even monthly basis I'd say something is wrong with the device or the user's methodology.

The methods of troubleshooting rogue apps on iOS are pretty similar and I wouldn't tolerate any device that I had to regularly "fix", be it from apple, moto or sammy.

XTNiT-1060 through spacetime. Android Central Moderator.

 

[robsawalker]

Lock screen... Have to agree. Have you tried dynamic notifications app? It works by swiping a ring in the centre of the screen. It solved the irritating accidental opening for me.

There are decent headphones out there. I use a set of cheap htc professional or something, they were, like, £15 but they are really not too bad.

Ps re: tracking. OP, are you using Google Now? It usually picks up parcel tracking from your email and shows you all the details in Google Now. Mind you, I use Gmail for all my emails.

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[Eclipse2K]

Clearing cache, uninstall, reinstall, really starting to miss my iPhone. These are the things no one talks about in the iPhone vs Android discussions. I NEVER had to reinstall an app on my iPhone to get it to work correctly.

I've never had to do this on Android either. If an application was messed up it was the developers issue which was fixed with a new update. I am not doubting your problems but its not everyone who has issues.

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)

 

[Timm4y77]

That's what it takes to fix a bad app or bad app install. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. There is no way to clear the cache in iOS. You HAVE to delete the app. Just because you never had to do that doesn't mean iOS is immune to it. I had to do it on my iPhone 5 due to an app sucking down my battery. Does that mean iOS sucks? No. It meant there was a bad app install. Same thing here. I don't have that issue with PayPal on my Nexus 5. Doesn't mean your problem isn't legit. It means that's how you try to fix it. I was trying to help you fix it so you would enjoy your phone more.

And Android isn't for everyone. If it doesn't work out for you, no biggie. IOS is great. I love it. I may still go back to it once I see the 6 (if I can afford it!). So there's no harm in going back. Just thought I'd toss out some pointers as to how to fix some issues and enjoy your phone more while you still have it.

Well said, and thank you. I'll give it a shot!

 

[GuyWith4Kids]

Another thing I noticed, is when I get shipping notifications via email of things I have ordered (car parts and such) I get a tracking number in the email.

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Google now does this without an app.

Clearing cache, uninstall, reinstall, really starting to miss my iPhone. These are the things no one talks about in the iPhone vs Android discussions. I NEVER had to reinstall an app on my iPhone to get it to work correctly.

I have had to do this with my wife's iPhone and kids iPads. It happens on all platforms. I will agree it happens more on android due to the api freedom apps have on android. My guess is iPhone apps will see this more as apis are opened up on ios.

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