5 must have apps for the Note 9

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One thing I'd recommend is that he stops using the Home button as a way of ending an app. It doesn't. The app keeps running in the background, eating battery. The Back button stops the app. I guess that's why I've always gotten a lot better battery life (time between charges) than most people here. (I got 4 days on my Note 3, but those days are gone.)
 

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One thing I'd recommend is that he stops using the Home button as a way of ending an app. It doesn't. The app keeps running in the background, eating battery. The Back button stops the app. I guess that's why I've always gotten a lot better battery life (time between charges) than most people here. (I got 4 days on my Note 3, but those days are gone.)
Does it really? I'm the number one offender because I always exit out an app using the home button. I thought the only way an app stops is when you close it using the multitask button.
 

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Did McAffee come standard on this thing? I don't remember ever seeing it but just noticed the app icon in the drawer.
 

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Does it really? I'm the number one offender because I always exit out an app using the home button. I thought the only way an app stops is when you close it using the multitask button.

Yes. Pressing the home button means you want to suspend it in background, so it's held on RAM. Using back actually exits it.
 

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Yes. Pressing the home button means you want to suspend it in background, so it's held on RAM. Using back actually exits it.

Umm... No. Not at all. You may think it does because of how Android manages the memory, but its an illusion. The only way to actually exit out of an app is by swiping it out in the recent apps window.

I just loaded candy crush and then used the Back button to return to my home screen... then loaded it again... it popped up near instantly exactly in the same place I left it. I then retried it with several apps that I know have a long load cycle (clearly indicating if it is loading it from memory or loading it from storage). Same result.

The exception is that some apps are designed to close themselves. but it is a definitely not an Android system function. Leave it alone and let the phone and the system manage its memory. Use the device manager to put apps to sleep if they are open too long... and don't swet the typically marginal hit to your battery.

He isn't wrong, just because he uses his phone differently than you.
 

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Umm... No. Not at all. You may think it does because of how Android manages the memory, but its an illusion. The only way to actually exit out of an app is by swiping it out in the recent apps window.

I just loaded candy crush and then used the Back button to return to my home screen... then loaded it again... it popped up near instantly exactly in the same place I left it. I then retried it with several apps that I know have a long load cycle (clearly indicating if it is loading it from memory or loading it from storage). Same result.

How would you even use the back button to go directly from candy crush to the homescreen? pressing back in a candy crush shouldn't bring you back to the homescreen directly from in-game (I haven't played it in a while). If you are in the middle of a game in candy crush, pressing back once brings you to the level selection menu, pressing it again should bring you to the splash page with the big "play now" button. Then pressing it again takes you out like an exit.

If you're doing it differently than that and it's bringing you back to the middle of the game, you're doing something different.
 

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Umm... No. Not at all. You may think it does because of how Android manages the memory, but its an illusion. The only way to actually exit out of an app is by swiping it out in the recent apps window.

I just loaded candy crush and then used the Back button to return to my home screen... then loaded it again... it popped up near instantly exactly in the same place I left it. I then retried it with several apps that I know have a long load cycle (clearly indicating if it is loading it from memory or loading it from storage). Same result.

The exception is that some apps are designed to close themselves. but it is a definitely not an Android system function. Leave it alone and let the phone and the system manage its memory. Use the device manager to put apps to sleep if they are open too long... and don't swet the typically marginal hit to your battery.

He isn't wrong, just because he uses his phone differently than you.

ALSO. The developers of Android themselves says you're wrong:

https://developer.android.com/guide/components/activities/tasks-and-back-stack

Pressing back destroys the activity and pops it off the back stack.
 

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Umm... No. Not at all. You may think it does because of how Android manages the memory, but its an illusion. The only way to actually exit out of an app is by swiping it out in the recent apps window.

I just loaded candy crush and then used the Back button to return to my home screen... then loaded it again... it popped up near instantly exactly in the same place I left it. I then retried it with several apps that I know have a long load cycle (clearly indicating if it is loading it from memory or loading it from storage). Same result.

The exception is that some apps are designed to close themselves. but it is a definitely not an Android system function. Leave it alone and let the phone and the system manage its memory. Use the device manager to put apps to sleep if they are open too long... and don't swet the typically marginal hit to your battery.

He isn't wrong, just because he uses his phone differently than you.
That's what I thought as well. The home and back button does the same actions lol. You have to actually clear the app out of current apps window to completely stop the app.
 

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That's what I thought as well. The home and back button does the same actions lol. You have to actually clear the app out of current apps window to completely stop the app.

They don't have the same function. He's wrong. The developers of Android says so. The function of the back button tells the system that the uppermost active application when you press the back button is to kill that activity and remove it from the stack.

https://developer.android.com/guide/components/activities/tasks-and-back-stack

diagram_backstack.png
 

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ALSO. The developers of Android themselves says you're wrong:

https://developer.android.com/guide/components/activities/tasks-and-back-stack

Pressing back destroys the activity and pops it off the back stack.

if I'm surfing internet using chrome, and I have surfed many many pages on the Chrome, so you are saying I have to press the Back button multiple time until Chrome loads the default 1st page only then I can exit the Chrome app? Because each time u press Back button at Chrome, it goes back to the previous page you surfed. That's really not convenient, I would rather press the home button or kill the app in the multi task list if i know I won't be using that app/game anytime soon, but i normally just kill any game in the multi task list every time after playing.
 

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No. You can tap the tabs button, then kill the open tabs. Then pressing back closes Chrome properly.
if I'm surfing internet using chrome, and I have surfed many many pages on the Chrome, so you are saying I have to press the Back button multiple time until Chrome loads the default 1st page only then I can exit the Chrome app? Because each time u press Back button at Chrome, it goes back to the previous page you surfed. That's really not convenient, I would rather press the home button or kill the app in the multi task list if i know I won't be using that app/game anytime soon, but i normally just kill any game in the multi task list every time after playing.