6.0 Marshmallow: Is there a way to disable Doze without root?

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Is there anyway, at a system level without root, to completely disable Doze? Sprits latest software (LS991ZVA) broke the ability to ignore optimizations (you can make selections but they don't do anything, apps still Doze). The reason that I'm asking is that I use Wi-Fi calling and Doze tends to disable it.
 

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Is there anyway, at a system level without root, to completely disable Doze? Sprits latest software (LS991ZVA) broke the ability to ignore optimizations (you can make selections but they don't do anything, apps still Doze). The reason that I'm asking is that I use Wi-Fi calling and Doze tends to disable it.

From what I've read I think this is also what's interfering with my alarm clock app. Verizon will still let you check to ignore optimization which I've done but I haven't tested it yet.
 

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I've noticed my Gmail notifications being often delayed, not sure if it's related to doze (even when set to ignore) or other issues.
 

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From what I've read I think this is also what's interfering with my alarm clock app. Verizon will still let you check to ignore optimization which I've done but I haven't tested it yet.

I can set an alarm a few minutes away just to test and the alarm will go off. But I set one right before bedtime for 4 hours away and it completely ignored that one. This was with Alarm Clock Plus. Now I'm going to try it again with the standard clock app and see what happens.
 

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I can set an alarm a few minutes away just to test and the alarm will go off. But I set one right before bedtime for 4 hours away and it completely ignored that one. This was with Alarm Clock Plus. Now I'm going to try it again with the standard clock app and see what happens.

Was that with Alarm Clock Plus checked in the Ignore battery optimizations or not checked?

It could be that Alarm Clock Plus had not been updated to support MM and Doze. There is a different API they're supposed to use so MM comes out of Doze a few minutes before the alarm is to go off. If that api is not used, MM will Doze away right through the alarm time.

EDIT: I just checked and Alarm Clock Plus has not been updated since September 30th, 2014 (and the no ads one for $0.99 hasn't been updated since Nov 18th, 2012). So definitely it is not setup to work with Doze. If an app hasn't been updated in a year and a half (or three and a half years), I would say it's time to find a new alarm clock app.
 
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Was that with Alarm Clock Plus checked in the Ignore battery optimizations or not checked?

It could be that Alarm Clock Plus had not been updated to support MM and Doze. There is a different API they're supposed to use so MM comes out of Doze a few minutes before the alarm is to go off. If that api is not used, MM will Doze away right through the alarm time.

EDIT: I just checked and Alarm Clock Plus has not been updated since September 30th, 2014 (and the no ads one for $0.99 hasn't been updated since Nov 18th, 2012). So definitely it is not setup to work with Doze. If an app hasn't been updated in a year and a half (or three and a half years), I would say it's time to find a new alarm clock app.

Checked.

It worked just fine in Lollipop but now on MM it's having problems.
 

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Alarm Clock Xtreme also isn't updated for Doze (last updated last April). I guess it's off to find another alarm app that uses math problems to disable the alarm...

I do blame Google, at least in part, for this issue. When you go into the ignore optimization settings, it tells you that when you select an app to ignore, it'll behave normally. It doesn't have an asterisk at the end and fine print adding "only for MM updated apps; non-compliant apps will still be put to sleep." So either they have mislead us, or it is supposed to work as advertised and there's a glaring bug preventing it from doing so. I'll leave it up to others to debate which it is, but it's not right either way in my opinion.

This is the kind of thing that makes me hate forced Android updates.
 

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I do blame Google, at least in part, for this issue. When you go into the ignore optimization settings, it tells you that when you select an app to ignore, it'll behave normally. It doesn't have an asterisk at the end and fine print adding "only for MM updated apps; non-compliant apps will still be put to sleep." So either they have mislead us, or it is supposed to work as advertised and there's a glaring bug preventing it from doing so.

I believe is the latter. Checking the ignore optimizations should leave the app alone and it should work exactly as it did in Lollipop. I'm thinking this is a sprint bug, not Google since I haven't heard others complaining about it.

If you're looking for a new alarm app, I use Gentle Alarm and love it.
 

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I emailed AVG about Alarm Clock Xtreme (didn't realize until I clicked the Play email link that they were the developers). Here's the reply they sent me.

Thank you for contacting AVG.

This is a follow up email sent with regards to the recently escalated issue with Alarm Clock xtreme. We sincerely apologize for the delay in responding to you.

We certainly understand that the Alarm Clock app is not working properly in your device with Android OS version 6.0 (Marshmallow).

Your case has been reviewed in detailed and have confirmed that because of OS compatible issues with newer version, the app is not working great.

Please be informed that developers are working on this to fix it. Also, our developers are currently gathering more information to develop the app compatible for Marshmallow version without any bug or error, hence it takes time for the development.

We request you to wait until the upcoming update as you will be notified via play store notifications in your device once the update is released. Then you shall update the app and use it without any issues.

We hope that you will wait until the upcoming update to get your issues fixed.*

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

So hopefully the fix comes soon.
 

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Yep, because lollipop didn't have Doze. ??????

Oh ok. The stock alarm did just fine this morning so I will go with it. I just wish I could figure out how to get rid of the stock "Good Morning" song thing and replace it with some sort of buzzer sound.
 

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Oh ok. The stock alarm did just fine this morning so I will go with it. I just wish I could figure out how to get rid of the stock "Good Morning" song thing and replace it with some sort of buzzer sound.

When setting the alarm, scroll down a bit and it'll have an option for alarm sound. I'm with you, that song would make me want to throw the phone across the room in the morning for being so chipper. Lol
 

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When setting the alarm, scroll down a bit and it'll have an option for alarm sound. I'm with you, that song would make me want to throw the phone across the room in the morning for being so chipper. Lol

"Good Morning?!?! No it isn't" then BAM against the wall the phone goes. LOL

The choices they have for the stock alarm sounds are way too quiet. Can you not get a tone you've downloaded into that selection list?
 

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That's the first time I've heard of anyone saying the phone was too quiet. Lol.

When you select the alarm sound option, mine lets me pick between alarm tone and music. The latter gives me a list of all my music and other audio files I added. It also gives a volume slider.
 

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That's the first time I've heard of anyone saying the phone was too quiet. Lol.

When you select the alarm sound option, mine lets me pick between alarm tone and music. The latter gives me a list of all my music and other audio files I added. It also gives a volume slider.

I've got to have something that's going to jolt me awake. Kind of like those old alarm clock radios with the buzzer sounding alarms. It would be great if they would tie that alarm tone list into your regular sounds file.
 

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If you go into the Apps tab, hit the 3 dots at upper right hand corner to configure apps.
There you can specify which (if any) you want to ignore optimizations.
 

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