A Bootloader PSA - Editorial

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This is a subject I've discussed a lot, and thought about even more. This stems really from another post I made.

There has been a flurry of discussion lately about bootloader signing and encryption. There was a rumor about the Droid X/2 bootloader as well as news about the latest HTC devices like the Thunderbolt and Incredible S having signed bootloaders. The Thunderbolt was unlocked in 72 hours. Yay [strike]hackers[/strike] alternative developers. But we don't know if the Incredible S and presumable DInc 2 are locked the same way yet.

With all this news the forums have been buzzing, as to be expected. There are angry people, confused people, apathetic people and those who feel lost inside. Some of us keep asking ourselves, "What the hell are the manufacturers doing this for? Is the future of Android as locked down as iOS?!?"

I don't think there's anything wrong with us being concerned and discussing the topic. They are, after all, the devices we use day in and day out. So if we could, let's take a step back, breathe and use our curious, powerful minds to think for a minute.

The point has been made that those of us who want devices that are more free and more open than a nudist hippie farm, but we make up a very small number of the consumer base. This is true. Let's put this idea into something more concrete and tangible, like donuts.

In my area there are a few bakeries and donut shops. They're all open during the hours that you would expect them to be. Everybody could go for a donut on a lazy Saturday morning. But because anytime is a good time for a glazed Devil's Food Cake donut and a cup of coffee, what about those that are looking for a treat at 3 AM? Well thankfully, one of those bakeries has a 24 hour drive-thru. And it's right up the street. Booyah.

The 3 AM donut rush is hardly a rush, it's not even a crowd. If all the donut shops had a 24 hour drive through, and the 3 AM crowd dispersed evenly, they couldn't afford to keep open that late. Not enough customers to justify the expenses associated with staying open 'round the clock.

The same goes for the "super user" smart phone market. If Sammy, LG, Moto and HTC we're all fighting for the title of best unlocked phone, they may not sell enough devices to justify the extra efforts and customer service involved. Now, one or two of them fighting for that piece of the pie may be able to make enough to justify it. It's pretty apparent that Moto has turned their nose up at that piece of pie, and perhaps HTC is following suit. Does that leave us up Bootloader Creek without a paddle? Not exactly.

One of the most crucial lessons of business I've learned is that if there is a market for something, someone will make it. There's a dollar to be had, someone will go after it. If you don't take it, someone else will. I think that there will always be a device or two that's not locked down tighter than Alcatraz on high alert. We may even see manufacturers "take turns" making them, look at the Nexus line. But more importantly, though we represent a small market, we do have some influence on the larger market.

I'm known as the "Android Guy" at work. I know the news the day before it hits, I know all the cool apps and tweaks. If someone has a question about a new phone or Android tablet, they talk to me. I'm sure many of you all are the same way. That's our ticket. If people come to us for recommendations, advice and suggestions about Android products and software, it would behoove the manufacturers to offer something to us. We have influence over the dollars that others spend. If we all use brand Z because it's hacker friendly, we'll probably recommend it. It would probably have good specs and pre-loaded software, so even to the average user, it would be a good device. That influence is our ticket, it's our way of having just a little bit of leverage over the manufacturers.

So what do we do? Where do we go from here?

First, don't panic. Hysteria is what creates rumors, junk news and bad info. Vote with your dollar. Pick the device that fits your needs best. Manufacturers are all over sales trends like flies on horse doody. Most importantly, support our beloved OS. Bringing more Android customers is good for us. If we make the Android pie bigger, that will bring more manufacturers and more devs; better devices and better software and more fighting over the market share. Competition is good for the consumer. Use your knowledge to help new users and guide them into the world of Android, and our good deeds and helpful actions just may be naturally rewarded.
 
Nice write up. I honestly havent found one reason to be upset that the bootloader is locked on my droid X. Would I like to have a chance to run CM7? Sure.. am I freaking out because new phones coming out are going to be "locked". Heck no. I'll take what I get and go from there.

Thanks for the read.
 
The 3 AM donut rush is hardly a rush, it's not even a crowd. If all the donut shops had a 24 hour drive through, and the 3 AM crowd dispersed evenly, they couldn't afford to keep open that late. Not enough customers to justify the expenses associated with staying open 'round the clock.

The same goes for the "super user" smart phone market. If Sammy, LG, Moto and HTC we're all fighting for the title of best unlocked phone, they may not sell enough devices to justify the extra efforts and customer service involved.

I disagree with your logic here, It would actually cost them MORE to lock it down, it's easy to leave it open, but lock it down requires extra work and testing, and it will require extra support when joe blow bricks his phone because he didn't take the time to read the forums and then he returns it.
If it was open, then they likely wouldn't have bricked and not had to return it.

One of the most crucial lessons of business I've learned is that if there is a market for something, someone will make it. There's a dollar to be had, someone will go after it. If you don't take it, someone else will. I think that there will always be a device or two that's not locked down tighter than Alcatraz on high alert. We may even see manufacturers "take turns" making them, look at the Nexus line. But more importantly, though we represent a small market, we do have some influence on the larger market.

I do 100% agree with this, I am personally responsible for at least 10 droid x sale and a droid 2

I like you, am the "go to" guy for computers/phones/electronics.
and we do carry allot of influence about what is purchased by joe smith consumer. apparently it's not enough to sway the exec's though.

So what do we do? Where do we go from here?

First, don't panic. Hysteria is what creates rumors, junk news and bad info. Vote with your dollar. Pick the device that fits your needs best. Manufacturers are all over sales trends like flies on horse doody. Most importantly, support our beloved OS. Bringing more Android customers is good for us. If we make the Android pie bigger, that will bring more manufacturers and more devs; better devices and better software and more fighting over the market share. Competition is good for the consumer. Use your knowledge to help new users and guide them into the world of Android, and our good deeds and helpful actions just may be naturally rewarded.

I also disagree here, I think we SHOULD panic. we SHOULD make as big a stink as possible and get as many people involved *****ing and complaining.
we can't move enough dollars to make a dent, the only way to do it is a public outcry.
 
I disagree with your logic here, It would actually cost them MORE to lock it down, it's easy to leave it open, but lock it down requires extra work and testing, and it will require extra support when joe blow bricks his phone because he didn't take the time to read the forums and then he returns it.
If it was open, then they likely wouldn't have bricked and not had to return it.



II also disagree here, I think we SHOULD panic. we SHOULD make as big a stink as possible and get as many people involved *****ing and complaining.
we can't move enough dollars to make a dent, the only way to do it is a public outcry.

Unfortunately we don't know the behind the scenes stuff. If their contract with Verizon for 200,000 T-Bolts with an option for 100,000 more is contingent on the phones being locked, then it would absolutely be more costly for them to not lock them down. They also have an interest in protecting their proprietary stuff. Sense has been ported over to other devices and I'm sure HTC wants you to buy an HTC device if you want Sense. Now, I don't know how much the lock helps protect that, but it's something to consider.

The big reason why I don't think panic and outcry will work with upcoming devices is simply because it hasn't worked in the past. That's where that famous Moto quote came from in my signature. We don't have enough dollars in the market for them to care about our outcries. That and I truly think panic breeds mis-information. You get a group of people so upset they can't think straight, and the phone game effect gets out of control. However, just because I don't think panic will work, doesn't mean I think we should quietly accept it. If we want to make our complaints mean something we need to swell our ranks. The more Android users we have, the more modders and hackers will we have upset, right beside us. We may only ever be 5% of the Android market. When that 5% is 10,000 users, it may not be a 5% worth going after. But if that 5% becomes 50,000 users, that 5% slice of the pie just got a whole lot more appealing.
 
Nice write up. I honestly havent found one reason to be upset that the bootloader is locked on my droid X. Would I like to have a chance to run CM7? Sure.. am I freaking out because new phones coming out are going to be "locked". Heck no. I'll take what I get and go from there.

Thanks for the read.

Glad to do it and thanks for reading. It gave me a chance to really think about how I want to act as a consumer. It seems it may have been a bit long winded though, judging by lack of response. A lot of people probably went, "Whoa, I ain't readin' all that. Needs more pictures."
 
The big reason why I don't think panic and outcry will work with upcoming devices is simply because it hasn't worked in the past. That's where that famous Moto quote came from in my signature.

I think that makes my point.
some dum dum made that post and look at the bad publicity moto got over it.
there was such a stink in the community that moto said sorry and that they would look into an unlocked bootloader.

IMO that is the only thing that has provided us ANY movement on the subject.
so, we should go for more of the same.
 
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I think that makes my point.
some dum dum made that post and look at the bad publicity moto got over it.
there was such a stink in the community that moto said sorry and that they would look into an unlocked bootloader.

IMO that is the only thing that has provided us ANY movement on the subject.
so, we should go for more of the same.


I am inclined to agree.


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following up on this issue -

FreeMyMoto FreeMyMoto
Moto employee: "Yes your petition has been noticed." http://is.gd/qy2Kwn That means we need to keep this up! Be loud!

I think we need to keep up the pressure.. be loud, be a thorn in their side.. until we get what we want!
 

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