Any market app's similar to ROM Manager?

Murph5150

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ROM Manager has seemed to experience its fair share of problems lately and I was wondering if the market offered another paid app similar to ROM Manager? I've been trying to flash Vicious JellyBean 4.1.1 with no luck. I'm stuck on v5.

EDIT: How is ROM Toolbox Pro?
 
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What have we told you time and time again? Just use the recovery to flash things, you have no need for an app to handle it. Use recovery. It's not just a suggestion, it's how you need to handle these things if you want to avoid issues.

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What have we told you time and time again? Just use the recovery to flash things, you have no need for an app to handle it. Use recovery. It's not just a suggestion, it's how you need to handle these things if you want to avoid issues.
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Because i just spent $80 wiping viruses i downloaded off of my laptop when I rooted. I wont do a thing unless its done from ROM Mgr or a like app. So, with that in mind, im seeking pertinent suggestions, not alternative suggestions.
 
Because i just spent $80 wiping viruses i downloaded off of my laptop when I rooted. I wont do a thing unless its done from ROM Mgr or a like app. So, with that in mind, im seeking pertinent suggestions, not alternative suggestions.

Again, it's not a suggestion, it's something you 100% need to learn to do.

You will not get viruses from downloading ROMs from any respectable site.. But it's really irrelevant anyway. You can download straight to your phone if you prefer, or to your computer then move it to your phone. Either is fine. When you flash you need to use recovery.
Whatever viruses you unfortunately got before were likely from those sites you were trying to get root/unlock files from, which I believe I told you were not trustworthy looking sites when I was walking you through the process.

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Because i just spent $80 wiping viruses i downloaded off of my laptop when I rooted. I wont do a thing unless its done from ROM Mgr or a like app. So, with that in mind, im seeking pertinent suggestions, not alternative suggestions.

ROM Toolbox, although I have never used it, will most likely be the same as ROM Manager...sketchy at best. Especially if you want the latest JB ROMS. Maybe others have used it and can chime in, or you can give the free version a try.

Using recovery IS a pertinent suggestion, btw. It really is the best way to flash. Sorry about the viruses, I've personally never had that issue. I understand it is frustrating and a pain in the wallet to fix that kind of issue.
 
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Because i just spent $80 wiping viruses i downloaded off of my laptop when I rooted. I wont do a thing unless its done from ROM Mgr or a like app. So, with that in mind, im seeking pertinent suggestions, not alternative suggestions.

Murph -

ROM Manager is an interface. It interacts with your recovery and simply sends different commands to it to get stuff done. The problem is you are flashing roms that are still somewhat experimental and buggy. These are not CM9 nightlies. These are not roms based on software that has been out for months. These are literally brand new. I warned against this very dilemma in my Jelly Bean guide--users, folks with little to no experience flashing--stepping into the jungle.

Here's why you need to learn how to use recovery: if your phone screws up, ROM Manager will not be there to save you. If you can't boot up your device normally, how do you get to ROM Manager? You don't. You sit there, you may try to file a warranty claim (which will be denied because you voided your warranty), and then you're lost.

BUT...if you used CWM or TWRP or whatever recovery you want, you can get in and you can start figuring out what went wrong. You can wipe stuff--you can wipe system to remove the rom, you can wipe data if you think your apps are buggy, you can wipe the cache/dalvik if you think there's a cache build up. You can do this because you're manually booting in and doing it. You can't with ROM Manager.

Further, ROM Manager is inefficient. It adds steps to a process that is very simple. Within those steps is the possibility of it freezing up, throwing you into a bootloop and having all sorts of hellish consequences. How do I know this? It happened on my Incredible. I was downloading the latest CM7 nightly, went to install it from ROM Manager, and it froze. It bootlooped. I panicked and missed class and spent the entire day trying to figure out what went wrong.

...and all I had to do was manually boot into recovery.

So while I understand that you want to use an app you paid for, and while I sort of understand some of your paranoia regarding the viruses (although to be quite frank, those are probably entirely unrelated to both the rooting process and you flashing stuff), we advise you to learn recovery because sooner than later your phone will soft brick, it will boot loop, and unless you learn it now, you will be in trouble. I can't remote access your phone, but I can give you the tools and the skills that you need to be able to do it yourself.

This advice is not meant to be derisive or condescending, it's meant to be a warning to those out there caught up in the Jelly Bean hubbub--you must absolutely know how to use recovery, how to diagnose issues, and how to get out of a bad situation calmly and efficiently. I noticed you (I believe it was) overclocked your phone rather aggressively; that frequently, if you're not careful, will put you into a bootloop. What happens then if you can't boot up your phone? That's just an example of a possible dilemma down the line.

I learned the hard way. The reason why I have written so many guides is because I was once exactly like you and plenty of other folks here....And then the proverbial fecal matter hit the fan and I was left confounded, bewildered, and to be honest, absolutely livid and dismayed. Learning recovery is not some luxury for nerds, geeks, crack flashers, etc. It is a necessity if you want to flash roms to your phone. There are no shortcuts here; shortcuts brick phones, shortcuts wipe SDcards, and shortcuts, quite frankly, do nothing other than delay or mask issues. Please don't take shortcuts. It doesn't have to be at this moment, but really, it should be sooner than later.
 
Because i just spent $80 wiping viruses i downloaded off of my laptop when I rooted. I wont do a thing unless its done from ROM Mgr or a like app. So, with that in mind, im seeking pertinent suggestions, not alternative suggestions.

If you're getting viruses/malware on your computer from trying to flash ROMs, you're doing something VERY wrong and it has nothing to do with using ROM Manager or similar app vs using a recovery.
 
Use Recovery.. It's so easy.

I find it hard to believe that the rom was where you got your virus from, if it was, you downloaded it from an untrusted site.
 
Use Recovery.. It's so easy.

I find it hard to believe that the rom was where you got your virus from, if it was, you downloaded it from an untrusted site.

I don't care what you believe. The virus waqs acquired while rooting my phone; downloading multiple links only to find I never installed the drivers properly.
 
Honestly, you are getting good advice and continue to ignore it.

At this point, if you can't do it right and refuse to learn how--especially in light of being given simple instructions over and over and over again--then just stop modding your phone. The modding scene is clearly not for you.
 
If you can't boot up your device normally, how do you get to ROM Manager? You don't.

This. Because it WILL happen at some point to anyone who flashes anything. There really is nothing else to say on the topic. Thanks dmmarck.
 
dmmarck-

I get it. Iget it. Here's one irrefutable fact- The computer picked up a virus from fu*king around too much with untrusted websites. I am happy tov say I'm running vicious v5 from ROM Mgr totally 100% problem free. I cannot upgrade to v4.1.1 for some reason. Did the wipes, etc etc. So besides this hiccup, ROM Mgr has been useful and received rave comments and ratings by tens of thousands of users.

Now- I know you're the go-to guy around here. You helped me out and I'm still in your debt. I build turbine engines for Pratt & Whitney for a living as a mechanicl engineer. I am, sadly, dumber than rocks when it comes to using the computer. ROM Mgr has been my saving grace. The instructions you posted- I cannot follow them. Too complicated. So I use the next best thing: ROM Mgr. Now, if someone with experience can help me upgrade to v4.1.1, which was my OE request, I'll be a happy guy. Until then, I'm not using my PC because I can't tell the malicious sites from the good sites. Make sense?
 
Honestly, you are getting good advice and continue to ignore it.

At this point, if you can't do it right and refuse to learn how--especially in light of being given simple instructions over and over and over again--then just stop modding your phone. The modding scene is clearly not for you.

Clearly? Hmmm, odd, b/c I successfully have JB running on my phone as I type. Pardon me for being "older," and not used to this technology. Like my previous post said, I design ramjet turbines for a living at Pratt. I',m not an idiot, This is all very new to me and I discovered simplicity in ROM Manager.
 
dmmarck-

I get it. Iget it. Here's one irrefutable fact- The computer picked up a virus from fu*king around too much with untrusted websites. I am happy tov say I'm running vicious v5 from ROM Mgr totally 100% problem free. I cannot upgrade to v4.1.1 for some reason. Did the wipes, etc etc. So besides this hiccup, ROM Mgr has been useful and received rave comments and ratings by tens of thousands of users.

Now- I know you're the go-to guy around here. You helped me out and I'm still in your debt. I build turbine engines for Pratt & Whitney for a living as a mechanicl engineer. I am, sadly, dumber than rocks when it comes to using the computer. ROM Mgr has been my saving grace. The instructions you posted- I cannot follow them. Too complicated. So I use the next best thing: ROM Mgr. Now, if someone with experience can help me upgrade to v4.1.1, which was my OE request, I'll be a happy guy. Until then, I'm not using my PC because I can't tell the malicious sites from the good sites. Make sense?

No worries, you're not dumb in the least. This is a "different language" and I'll gladly help decipher it.

Get on G-Talk and I can walk you through the process fairly painlessly. You'll have to wipe your apps but the rom I'll show you has market restore, so it'll redownload everything. If you're ok with that, then we're good to go. I can literally walk you step by step through the process to ensure everything is good to go.
 
hang on lets all cool off a sec.

when you're talking about downloading programs to root your phone or files to root, thats different from downloading a rom. that said, you're already rooted, and you dont need to download rooting or driver software. you just need to download the rom files and gapps. i mean, it would be great to have working understanding of adb/fastboot, but for now you can get away without it.

as for downloading roms - trusted sites, such as AC and Rootzwiki, are going to have threads, generally by a trusted member of the community or the dev themself. When you have a thread organized by the developer, and they link their rom download in their op, you can generally just trust it. If you dont know the dev, maybe you want to think twice about it, but generally you can trust these devs that are around forever and have track record, etc.

gapps you can get at goo.im, which is another trustworthy site - you can also get roms and kernels there.

you can dl to your cpu and virus check them if you want - or you can dl to your phone. once you do that, you boot into recovery manually and follow very simple instructions. if you need them recounted here we can do that for ya or point ya in the right direction.

and aside from all this, if you want to use RM, go for it. But when you get in trouble you just won't know how to trouble shoot it, and you may end up without a phone for an extended period of time until someone can walk ya thru how to fix it.

But, as for your original question, no idea how to help ya get 4.1.1 to work on rom manager. Or on rom toolbox. Sorry.
 
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Also, let's try to keep this as civil as possible. We're here to help. Make love, not war or iPhones.
 
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Thanks dmmarck, I'll gladly accept your help but I can't today. My daughter is sick and I'm about to walk out the door to get her to her appt. If convenient for you, I'll be around most all of the weekend. I'll try and find you. I tried PMing you but your "Mod" status wouldn't let me. I was gonna give you my email.
 
Thanks dmmarck, I'll gladly accept your help but I can't today. My daughter is sick and I'm about to walk out the door to get her to her appt. If convenient for you, I'll be around most all of the weekend. I'll try and find you. I tried PMing you but your "Mod" status wouldn't let me. I was gonna give you my email.

I think I still have it? I just emailed you. Respond if that's correct lol.
 
I just want to reiterate what others have said regarding what can happen when you rely on ROM manager. At some point or another something may happen where you are unable to access or use ROM manager and you'll want to be familiar with how to use a custom recovery.

You won't even need to use your PC, you can flash recovery from ROM manager and then download the roms from your phone and boot into recovery to flash them. It may seem complicated, but once you do it for the first time you'll realize it's not. Then it's pretty much the same steps anytime you want to flash a new rom, gapps, kernel, or theme. You'll be able to do it in your sleep!

It's also the same steps on any Android device. I've been rooting/flashing roms since my original Moto Droid. Since then, I've rooted and put roms on every Android I could get my hands on (my Droid, Nook Color, my son's LG Optimus V, my boyfriend's phones, and every phone I've used since the Droid). The only thing that varies is accessing the bootloader/unlocking, but using the custom recovery is always the same.

I'm familiar with ADB as well and it's been a lifesaver in some situations. It's great to have a variety of options to fall back on when it comes to trouble-shooting and if you are a crackflasher like I am, you inevitably have to trouble-shoot something at one point or another. I've never gotten myself into a situation where I couldn't somehow restore my device to working condition. If I didn't give recovery or ADB a chance, I'd have lots of bricks.:p

I hope you will consider learning to use a custom recovery.
 

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