Anybody not getting the Ultra?

[millerman]

What negative reviews?

On various tech sites saying not so much an upgrade and such like.

 

[donm527]

On various tech sites saying not so much an upgrade and such like.

Honestly that doesn't make it a negative review at the S22 Ultra. It just means that if you have an N20U that, the S22U is an improved phone over the N20U, But, for the majority, it's not that much better that it's worth the $$$ upgrading.

The S22U has improved specs but not enough that you feel the new phone has left the old one behind. And not really any new tech that you'd feel that you have to have.

Note 9 and older I feel probably long in the tooth and worth the upgrade... Zoom cameras, battery, FPS, and no more OS updates. Note 10... I'd say getting last OS update can hang on until the end of year and see what they will do for S23U. If they keep it Note styled snd Spen/Silo then good time to update then with another years bumped up specs and probably a 200 megapixel sensor/camera setup.

An N20U owner could definitely hold on to that $$$ used to upgrade and wait another year to see what is in store with the S23U.

N20U is no slouch. I wouldn't trade it for an S21U. IMO an N20U > S22+ and anything less than the S22U is a downgrade. And wiil stay up to date with those two phones at least another year with an OS update to 13 available for it.

 

[L0n3N1nja]

I will disagree on a portion of this. The reason a "engineer" said no SD card to make room for bigger batteries is not the reason, it's the reason they give us. Ask yourself this question, are the batteries bigger after removing SD card and 3.5 audio jack? I don't think they are, we've seen 5,000 MAH batteries before.

My opinion these items are gone is this.. Samsung can make more money. They can charge for memory upgrades. When they dropped the 3.5 audio jack, what did they introduce.. Bluetooth earbuds. They took a play right out of apples playbook, how to up sell and make more money. As someone said, Samsung really has no competition in Android.

Just my opinion, no "engineer" told me this.

When Samsung trained me to sell their S6 and Note 5 which no longer had SD Cards, I learned that like Google, Samsung didn't want them in their phones. SD cards caused bad user experiences and drove customers away from Android as a whole(not just Samsung) and right into the iPhone.

SD card can be great for storage until it isn't. It slows the performance of the phone down, especially older and slower cards. They could corrupt or lose data and it created nightmares if you had apps installed on a failed card.

Basically a bad SD card lead to a bad Android experience which could deter a customer from purchasing another Samsung phone.

So yeah, Samsung wanted that card slot gone back in 2015, they wanted to be like Google. Unfortunately consumer back lash for removing the card resulted in them bringing it back.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

When Samsung trained me to sell their S6 and Note 5 which no longer had SD Cards, I learned that like Google, Samsung didn't want them in their phones. SD cards caused bad user experiences and drove customers away from Android as a whole(not just Samsung) and right into the iPhone.

SD card can be great for storage until it isn't. It slows the performance of the phone down, especially older and slower cards. They could corrupt or lose data and it created nightmares if you had apps installed on a failed card.

Basically a bad SD card lead to a bad Android experience which could deter a customer from purchasing another Samsung phone.

So yeah, Samsung wanted that card slot gone back in 2015, they wanted to be like Google. Unfortunately consumer back lash for removing the card resulted in them bringing it back.

Samsung trained you to sell the concept of why it's a good idea not to have a SD card slot IMO. I've never had a issue with a SD card and I've taken the same card to several phones and computers. Most issues were caused because people wanted cheap SD cards and bought off Amazon getting fake cards. People run to iphone for reasons other then SD card issues. There are people now going to iphone because the only reason they were with Samsung is the SD card. They have even said now they might as well go to iphone, my family and friends have iphone and I'll take advantage of iMessage since I don't have a SD card. There's people staying with older phones because they still have the SD card, so Samsung's still losing sales over the SD card. In reality newer Samsung phones are getting more and more like iphone HARDWARE wise not SOFTWARE.

I am a common sense kind of guy and have the thinking of actions speak louder then words. Samsung's actions lately have been money generating ones. The most obvious is getting rid of the 3.5 jack and mysteriously introducing Bluetooth ear buds.

I just want to mention, I'm not one saying I want the SD card. I've come to realization that it's gone and I can take it or leave it now. If I had a choice of bringing back the 3.5 jack or SD card, it's the jack. I could plug the phone into older car radios that have the jack and don't have Bluetooth. This is my belief and I know Samsung has their reasoning they offer, I just don't buy it. What they told you and others might be the real reason, but I lean towards money. Less parts lower their cost and they can upsell memory and now even offer memory sticks to sell. It's my opinion, I'm not saying it's fact.

 

[monsieurms]

When Samsung trained me to sell their S6 and Note 5 which no longer had SD Cards, I learned that like Google, Samsung didn't want them in their phones. SD cards caused bad user experiences and drove customers away from Android ....

There was a time awhile back when Samsung in particular seemed to have a lot of trouble with SD cards. They would often wind up corrupted. You had to worry about what brand you bought and so on.

That was straightened out a long time ago. I don't notice that my note 20 Ultra is slow because I have an SD card in it. I don't see any problems whatsoever. The complaints at this point are just Samsung scare tactics and propaganda. Yeah, I've heard other rationalizations for getting rid of the SD cards, but I still say what it comes down to is Samsung gets to keep selling everybody lots of pricey new hard drive space every time they get a new phone that happens to make really large images and high def videos. Yay. A new profit source in a very competitive market. I am sure that is just coincidental.

 

[donm527]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EVSL-pjLM

 

[gray2018]

There was a time awhile back when Samsung in particular seemed to have a lot of trouble with SD cards. They would often wind up corrupted. You had to worry about what brand you bought and so on.

That was straightened out a long time ago. I don't notice that my note 20 Ultra is slow because I have an SD card in it. I don't see any problems whatsoever. The complaints at this point are just Samsung scare tactics and propaganda. Yeah, I've heard other rationalizations for getting rid of the SD cards, but I still say what it comes down to is Samsung gets to keep selling everybody lots of pricey new hard drive space every time they get a new phone that happens to make really large images and high def videos. Yay. A new profit source in a very competitive market. I am sure that is just coincidental.

Yep. Same reason they removed the headphone jack, to push something else. Money. That's all it is about. Another reason that I'm sad LG is no longer in the smartphone game.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Yep. Same reason they removed the headphone jack, to push something else. Money. That's all it is about. Another reason that I'm sad LG is no longer in the smartphone game.

Money all the way

 

[anon(631531)]

Samsung has had years to make a U.S. version with an unlocked bootloader, so their phones could be rooted. They chose not to, so I choose not to buy their phones. End of story!

 

[mustang7757]

Samsung has had years to make a U.S. version with an unlocked bootloader, so their phones could be rooted. They chose not to, so I choose not to buy their phones. End of story!

Back in the day unlocked bootloader and rooting was great but today with Nova and Good lock/Package Disabler Pro , i dont see a reason to do it anymore plus your device not secure any longer .

What would you do you if it could be ?