Anyone concerned about LTE speeds once iPhone 5 hits?

[Droid800]

Who says the iPhone 5 will have LTE. That'll make their thin beautiful phone not so thin anymore. Not to mention ruin their battery life advantage. I highly doubt this.

Its coming with lte. They were waiting for second generation lte chips, which, if you hadn't noticed, were recently announced by qualcomm. They can easily keep the iPhone thin while adding lte and a bigger battery.

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[Andrew Martonik]

Who says the iPhone 5 will have LTE. That'll make their thin beautiful phone not so thin anymore. Not to mention ruin their battery life advantage. I highly doubt this.

They will only launch it with LTE if they can keep it the same thickness (which they can) and competitive battery (which they can). Apple wouldn't launch a thick phone with crappy battery. I think by the time it launches, they can definitely handle getting LTE into it.

I'd easily give it a 85% chance that LTE comes on the next phone, especially considering that HSPA+ (and especially EVDO on Verizon) will be looking ANCIENT by summer 2013 when the next iPhone will be coming out. I don't think Apple would want to be behind the ball that far. Verizon recently said they won't sell a device without LTE anymore, so the iPhone will be behind in that respect to every phone.

 

[burwil]

Ipad HD is rumored to be released with 4g LTE in a couple of weeks. Announcement scheduled Wednesday.


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[SQurel23]

I'm hoping it doesn't affect the network to much but Apple always likes to ruin the party...

 

[Andrew Martonik]

Ipad HD is rumored to be released with 4g LTE in a couple of weeks. Announcement scheduled Wednesday.

Won't have nearly the effect that an iPhone with LTE would. A vast majority of iPads sold are WiFi only.

 

[burwil]

Won't have nearly the effect that an iPhone with LTE would. A vast majority of iPads sold are WiFi only.

Agreed. I'm a gadget nut so I'm following the release. I'll get the new iPad (rumored to be called the 'HD' rather than '3') to go along with my Xoom and Rezound.

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[Kmcferrin]

Uh... cus it is the 4th iPhone. They didn't call it the "iPhone 4G". They called it the iPhone 4.

??????

iPhone > iPhone 3G > iPhone 3GS > iPhone 4 > iPhone 4S > iPhone 5 (or whatever).

Pretty clear what they're doing here.

Yes, you're right. Their naming convention clearly indicates the generation of the phone. iPhone 4 = 4th generation phone. Then obviously you would call your 5th generation phone the iPhone 4S, that much is very clear. iPhone 5 would then be the 6th generation phone. That makes perfect sense as well. What were the specs on the iPhone 2 and iPhone 3 again? Oh wait, they didn't exist.

But what's this iPhone 3G all about? Oh yeah, that indicated that it was a 3G handset. iPhone 3GS? Yup, 3G handset there too. But iPhone 4 and 4S aren't 4G? That's obvious too, right?

BTW, anyone know what 3G and 4G actually means? Third Generation and Fourth Generation. Of course that's referring to the data transmission capabilities, and not the phone, right? So the iPhone 3G was actually a second AND third generation device. And the iPhone 4 was a 4th and 3rd generation device, while the 4s was the 5th and 3rd generation device.

You're right. This Apple naming convention makes absolutely perfect sense and is in no way misleading to the consumer whatsoever.

 

[Andrew Martonik]

You're right. This Apple naming convention makes absolutely perfect sense and is in no way misleading to the consumer whatsoever.

You're spending way too much brain power on this. I'm not saying it makes sense from a generational/logical perspective, I'm saying it makes sense because they're following a pattern. The original phone was just "iPhone" because you don't name your product "iPhone 1". The next was iPhone 3G, because it added 3G functionality. iPhone 3GS was the next model, a step up from the 3G. The 4 was redesigned so they deemed it worthy of a # bump. A step up from that, 4S was an incremental increase from the 4. The next will probably be iPhone 5. After that, the iPhone 5S. As I said earlier, they're probably gonna have to drop the # off the end here soon. Once you get to "iPhone 8" and "iPhone 10" it sounds a bit funny. If you'll notice, no where on the phone does it say the specific model of the device. It simply says "iPhone" and the storage capacity on the back. It really isn't important.

Its not misleading to anyone. The person buying an iPhone doesn't care what the # on it is, they care that its the latest one. No one is walking into a store looking for the latest iPhone and being tricked and accidentally buying a 3GS. You're severely overblowing this issue.

Its just a naming convention. No one said it has to "make sense" or be a logical representation of specifically what generation of the device it is. All people know (and care) is that its a higher number/name than the previous one, and they know what it is. It just has to be a different name. Apple does simple incremental names for its products (or sometimes no increment/name change at all).

Honestly, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than any other naming convention for phones other manufacturers have. There is no indication when you compare a Motorola Droid Bionic to a Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX which one is newer or what features it has....

 

[Droid800]

Yes, you're right. Their naming convention clearly indicates the generation of the phone. iPhone 4 = 4th generation phone. Then obviously you would call your 5th generation phone the iPhone 4S, that much is very clear. iPhone 5 would then be the 6th generation phone. That makes perfect sense as well. What were the specs on the iPhone 2 and iPhone 3 again? Oh wait, they didn't exist.

But what's this iPhone 3G all about? Oh yeah, that indicated that it was a 3G handset. iPhone 3GS? Yup, 3G handset there too. But iPhone 4 and 4S aren't 4G? That's obvious too, right?

BTW, anyone know what 3G and 4G actually means? Third Generation and Fourth Generation. Of course that's referring to the data transmission capabilities, and not the phone, right? So the iPhone 3G was actually a second AND third generation device. And the iPhone 4 was a 4th and 3rd generation device, while the 4s was the 5th and 3rd generation device.

You're right. This Apple naming convention makes absolutely perfect sense and is in no way misleading to the consumer whatsoever.

Only android fan boys honestly believe the last paragraph of your post. Apple made it clear it was named the iPhone 4 because it was the fourth generation iPhone.

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[davidnc]

I certainly am. I've only had my Galaxy Nexus for 3 days and have gotten blazing speeds toping out at nearly 40mbps. Coming from AT&T I can feel the load taken off my feet, if that makes sense. I'm thinking that once the LTE iPhone hits all of us Android LTE users are going to see decreased speeds. Maybe not right away but eventually? At school everyone and their mother has an iPhone. I was actually glad to get rid of mine and be different. Hopefully I'm wrong about this speculation and in time LTE speeds will only increase?

Verizon Users: Enjoy 4G LTE Speeds This Month While You Still Can

Im not worried

 

[Kmcferrin]

I'm not saying it makes sense from a generational/logical perspective, I'm saying it makes sense because they're following a pattern.

Except they're NOT following a consistent pattern, which is what I've been saying all along. Sometimes the numeral indicates the generation of the handset (but not really), other times it indicates the generation of the radio used for data.

 

[tony bag o donuts]

I think they have been following a pattern.
3gs updated the radio but wasn't anything that was major from the 3g.
4gs added suri and a few android features .

BTW Verizon mandated that the iphone 5 have LTE.

Last go around Apple dictated form over function, but this time it's the other way around.

 

[Kmcferrin]

I think they have been following a pattern.
3gs updated the radio but wasn't anything that was major from the 3g.
4gs added suri and a few android features .

Nope. The 3G was the updated radio, the 3GS had updated internals (CPU, graphics) to make the handset faster. The "S" in this case was for "Speed", according to St. Steven of Cupertino.

Since the internals were improved on the 4S the "S" may have meant "Speed" as well, but I never heard anyone from Apple refer to it as such. It may have meant "Siri", for all I know.

 

[Sploinkin]

All this talk of iPhone naming conventions makes as much sense as what they actually named them. People who use iPhones know the difference (for the most part) and that the bigger number is the newer phone. Moto did it with the Droid (remember the Droid 2, Droid R2D2, and Droid 2 Global?). The folks at Apple know how to market things and I'm inclined to accept whatever number/letter combination they want to slap on their devices. I dislike Apple, but I still know which iPhone does what...

 

[I Monarch]

I think it's something crazy like 40% of iPhone 4 and 4S owners think they have 4G connectivity. It's amazing to see all you Android guys clearly mistaken in what iPhone is called what and why. So many of you people are so wrong, I have to check what forum I'm on. I figured smartphone addicts like us would know the difference between 4G and a fourth-generation device named the iPhone 4. Oh well.

Anyway, if Verizon is mandating that new devices are LTE-capable (the Nokia Windows Phone 7.5 fiasco as an example), then the 6th iPhone sounds like it almost HAS to have LTE. The problem would be that Sprint doesn't have ANY LTE, and AT&T still has a very small footprint. Naming conventions would be thrown out the window if they include "4G" or "LTE" in the name of the new device. I think that limits the product name down to a numeral, and the iPhone 6 would be it.

 

[thebignewt]

So many Verizon people have iPhones (and it's not slowing down, 3 of us have them) that they must want to get people onto LTE and off CDMA. More money for them down the road too, because eventually 4G will cost more than 3G, maybe very soon.

 

[Channan]

It doesn't matter. They have their naming scheme. Let them use it. Wouldn't it be more confusing if they went iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, then iPhone 6? At some point it doesn't matter, they'll probably just call it "iPhone" eventually. Just like they don't update the # of the MacBook Air or MacBookPro. They just refresh them and call them the MacBook Air again.

Don't look into it too much, man. Its really not that big of a deal... Most people just call it "iPhone" anyways. As I said before, just let them be.

They went from iPhone to iPhone 3G. According to your logic, where was the iPhone 2? Did that confuse anyone? The iPhone 3G and 3GS's names had NOTHING to do with which generation they were. The first iPhone named for its generation was the iPhone 4.

Besides, whoever gets confused about the 6th iPhone being called iPhone 6 is really pathetic tbh.

Nope. The 3G was the updated radio, the 3GS had updated internals (CPU, graphics) to make the handset faster. The "S" in this case was for "Speed", according to St. Steven of Cupertino.

Since the internals were improved on the 4S the "S" may have meant "Speed" as well, but I never heard anyone from Apple refer to it as such. It may have meant "Siri", for all I know.

Actually the 3GS had 7.2Mbps HSDPA while the 3G only had 3.6Mbps.

 

[smccloud]

So many Verizon people have iPhones (and it's not slowing down, 3 of us have them) that they must want to get people onto LTE and off CDMA. More money for them down the road too, because eventually 4G will cost more than 3G, maybe very soon.

Sadly, I think you are right. Not like it matters, Verizion already rakes us over the coals for what they charge.

 

[yosteve]

What if the iPad 3 comes out LTE tomorrow!

 

[Andrew Martonik]

They went from iPhone to iPhone 3G. According to your logic, where was the iPhone 2? Did that confuse anyone? The iPhone 3G and 3GS's names had NOTHING to do with which generation they were. The first iPhone named for its generation was the iPhone 4.

Huh? Not sure where you're going with this. I'm the one refuting the fact that it has to be logical... I'm simply pointing out their pattern. Think everyone's a bit confused here.