Anyone getting a Moto Z?

[Laura Knotek]

And yes, this is an advancement. Moto did it first, but everyone will be doing it eventually. It;s actually better in the long run. The issue is that nobody is ready for it, and USB-C headphones are expensive. And adapters suck

The main issue with adapters is using them when mobile. Carrying around more stuff isn't convenient, and it's something else to lose or forget. Yes, I know the adapters are small, but the small size just makes them easier to lose or leave in my pocket and run through the washer.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

The main issue with adapters is using them when mobile. Carrying around more stuff isn't convenient, and it's something else to lose or forget. Yes, I know the adapters are small, but the small size just makes them easier to lose or leave in my pocket and run through the washer.

I probably lost 10 adapters back when HTC used them. Not going back to that situation.

 

[anon(415574)]

I really want it, but I'm not so sure I'm willing to wait until Fall to buy it, since I'm on T-Mo. If I could buy it next month I definitely would. Now I'm not so sure. I'll probably go with the next Samsung Note if it's not junk, and it's rootable. Man, I really don't know. Every one of the launches has some kind of "Gotcha!" that's pretty big these days. Nobody can seem to just release a good all around phone anymore, at a good price. Getting sick of $600+ phones.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

I really want it, but I'm not so sure I'm willing to wait until Fall to buy it, since I'm on T-Mo. If I could buy it next month I definitely would. Now I'm not so sure. I'll probably go with the next Samsung Note if it's not junk, and it's rootable. Man, I really don't know. Every one of the launches has some kind of "Gotcha!" that's pretty big these days. Nobody can seem to just release a good all around phone anymore, at a good price. Getting sick of $600+ phones.

I wouldn't count on any future T-Mobile branded phones being rootable.

Regardless of what the CEO says on Twitter, locking them up isn't an accident and was a direct request from the company.

 

[stanleywinthrop]

That is certainly your way of looking at it but most tech companies start quite the opposite way. They don't always have a clear plan on how to drive revenue and worry about that later. When companies get big and they have a board, members do become focused on bottom line and getting their next big house and/or yacht. But it really takes a balance of both to run a company right. And happy customers rarely hurt the bottom line but the opposite does.

You should read this article that just came out and shows what happens when you ignore happiness in customers and employees in a company:
United CEO Oscar Munoz: Board too isolated to see airline's slide

"Jim Jackson, a United shareholder, said he stopped flying United five years ago because he was frustrated with bad customer service, especially by flight attendants. He now flies Delta and American, he said."​

P.S.
stanleywinthrop, I doubt you run your own business like me and the people I know but we saw people with your attitude never succeed when they tried to start their own business.

Most tech companies? Maybe? But successful cell phone manufacturers? Do you think Samsung and Apple have a clear plan on how to make more money?

You can't equate a start up tech company to a billion dollar phone maker. And who says Motorola is ignoring customers? Sure they are ignoring you and maybe another dozen others on this thread, but how do you have any idea what the majority of cell phone customers want/need in phone? Do you have access to Motorola or even Samsung's market research?

The strongest data i have is that Motorola wasn't making money previously and they have changed things significantly. Apparently those changes are not to your liking. No big deal to me. But you are screaming and screaming on here about now that they are not making phones to your liking they must be on the path to failure. I got news for you motorola has been on the path to failure for at least the last 3 years. In whatever business you own, surely you must understand the import of profit and loss.

 

[mobrules]

Anyone have any info about the add on battery specs/prices???? If already mentioned I haven't seen it.

 

[Ry]

Anyone have any info about the add on battery specs/prices???? If already mentioned I haven't seen it.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-z/688218-motomods-incipio-offgrid-power-pack.html

 

[anon(415574)]

I wouldn't count on any future T-Mobile branded phones being rootable.

Regardless of what the CEO says on Twitter, locking them up isn't an accident and was a direct request from the company.

That would mean I'm done buying those phones. Even if I don't root, I'm not paying money for something I *can't* modify if I wanted to.

 

[matty032]

This video might make you kids feel better. I know it did me.

Moto Z and Moto Z Force hands on - Android Authority

 

[yomny Martinez]

Don't like it and aside from the modular aspect, which is a bit inconvenient for me, its like any other phone, just uglier. The humongous rear stepping camera is hideous. The front home button or what ever that may be looks like something from the older blackberries.

 

[rgdave]

I've been a loyal Moto customer for years, from an early Droid (yes, I'm on verizon), then to a Moto X 2013 (1st Gen) to a Moto X Pure now (with a short detour to a Samsung Galaxy 2). I was hoping one of the Z's would be my next phone, but too many drawbacks. The biggest negative is the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I usually use a bluetooth headphone, but they run out of battery juice, so I always have a pair of plug in ear buds with me. A dongle adapter is a non-starter for me, another little piece to move from bag to bag, and eventually to lose. Battery life is also paramount for me. I want to reliably get through a whole day without having to carry an external battery, and I don't see a 2600a battery doing that with a 5.5" screen. Motorola's abandonment of a commitment to timely upgrades under Lenovo (my Pure is still on 6.0, not 6.0.1) is also troubling.
This will probably a successful phone because Verizon will push the hell out of it, and if they have a Verizon version available through Motomaker, with color customization and maintain Moto's price advantage over other flagship phones, it will be a hit with mid range Verizon customers. But for bleeding edge power buyers, this will get a big yawn like LG's recent releases.
I think Motorola dropped the ball with this one, but only the market will tell.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

That would mean I'm done buying those phones. Even if I don't root, I'm not paying money for something I *can't* modify if I wanted to.

I feel ya. On the plus side almost every unlocked/unbranded phone works on T-Mo, so there's that.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Most tech companies? Maybe? But successful cell phone manufacturers? Do you think Samsung and Apple have a clear plan on how to make more money?

You can't equate a start up tech company to a billion dollar phone maker. And who says Motorola is ignoring customers? Sure they are ignoring you and maybe another dozen others on this thread, but how do you have any idea what the majority of cell phone customers want/need in phone? Do you have access to Motorola or even Samsung's market research?

The strongest data i have is that Motorola wasn't making money previously and they have changed things significantly. Apparently those changes are not to your liking. No big deal to me. But you are screaming and screaming on here about now that they are not making phones to your liking they must be on the path to failure. I got news for you motorola has been on the path to failure for at least the last 3 years. In whatever business you own, surely you must understand the import of profit and loss.

Where is the evidence that the majority of customers want modules?

 

[stanleywinthrop]

Where is the evidence that the majority of customers want modules?

i sure don't have any. But then I'm not conflating my personal preferences as what the public wants.

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[Golfdriver97]

I've been a loyal Moto customer for years, from an early Droid (yes, I'm on verizon), then to a Moto X 2013 (1st Gen) to a Moto X Pure now (with a short detour to a Samsung Galaxy 2). I was hoping one of the Z's would be my next phone, but too many drawbacks. The biggest negative is the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I usually use a bluetooth headphone, but they run out of battery juice, so I always have a pair of plug in ear buds with me. A dongle adapter is a non-starter for me, another little piece to move from bag to bag, and eventually to lose. Battery life is also paramount for me. I want to reliably get through a whole day without having to carry an external battery, and I don't see a 2600a battery doing that with a 5.5" screen. Motorola's abandonment of a commitment to timely upgrades under Lenovo (my Pure is still on 6.0, not 6.0.1) is also troubling.
This will probably a successful phone because Verizon will push the hell out of it, and if they have a Verizon version available through Motomaker, with color customization and maintain Moto's price advantage over other flagship phones, it will be a hit with mid range Verizon customers. But for bleeding edge power buyers, this will get a big yawn like LG's recent releases.
I think Motorola dropped the ball with this one, but only the market will tell.

The 2013 X hit it out of the park in my opinion. I personally think the '14 X should have been a hardware upgrade with no change in size. When the Play/Style/whatever the other name was released, and the rumors of a dual device launch, I was hoping for a hybrid size and a standard phone size, similar to what Samsung does with the S and Note line, just releasing them together.

It just confuses me on why Moto insists on one device size. I'm not saying that one or the other should be the end all and be all. People like the hybrid size and people want a smaller size....I just don't get why both can't be done.

Who knows? I might have been drooling for a Moto if one option was the smaller one.

 

[recDNA]

Nope. Battery too small for me. I have no interest in modules. I'd prefer a headphone jack and mini hdmi out

 

[trivor]

Re: Anyone getting one?

I wouldn't bet that the unlocked version will work with Verizon - especially since they are selling a Droid edition of the exact same phone.

 

[LuxuryTouringZone]

Re: Anyone getting one?

"Anyone getting a Moto Z?"

Nope.

 

[Ry]

Nope. Battery too small for me. I have no interest in modules. I'd prefer a headphone jack and mini hdmi out

So you won't be buying any current phone..

Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition

 

[recDNA]

Sammy makes phones with big batteries