Anyone going to trade their Android phone for iPhone 6?

[JeffDenver]

Those "Apple people" that always said that are ridiculous as well.

Well, it was a lot of them. It was not just a few isolated nerds. Yes, it is a little gratifying for them to finally experience this for themselves.

It's also why "Apple people" and "Android people" are all dumb. As soon as iOS had multiple screen resolutions "fragmentation" effectively existed. Apple just tried to make sure it was easy for apps to be updated to support those and/or "just work".

"Fragmentation" does not really exist on Android either. I have been explaining this for years.

You will not need a new OS update to get the latest Maps, or GMail, or Chrome. Much of the stuff baked into iOS are separate apps on Android (and therefore, are updated continuously...not merely once in a blue moon when Google gets around to an OS update). Thats why no one cares if they have the very latest update...it's not needed to get most of the stuff they want.

Apple people, by contrast, better prepare for some headaches.

"iCloud Drive’s rollout is a disaster"

"Apple’s calendar is still awful"

"I’m running third-party keyboards and sometimes I get no keyboard to show up at all. I run Apple’s keyboard and the suggestion bar disappears (you can swipe gently on it to get it back). Speaking of which, Apple still seems to think that blank screen real estate is more important than a permanent run of numbers on the keyboard. That means far more shifting to get special characters and numbers, which encourages lousy password behavior. It also means the hashtag character (#) is buried two shifts deep. Fortunately, Twitter itself moves it up, but really, Apple?"

"Just make TouchID work already"

"HealthKit and Continuity might as well not exist yet"

8 Misses In iOS 8 - Forbes

A lot of these issues would not even be issues on Android...we have 3rd party app integration. We can just use 3rd party solutions if we want and the OS will treat them as a default.

The "it just works" mantra (which many of us have known was BS for some time now) clearly no longer applies. Apple users are now paying a premium to beta test Apple products.

Yes, that further reinforces the point I was making. Fragmentation at a basic level is any difference in hardware from one device to another. Apple has fewer hardware differences than Android devices, but that's obvious given the differences in the platforms. That will make iOS devices always less fragmented than Android devices.

The fact remains that Apple users will now have to shut up about Fragmentation, finally. Apple has always had Frangmentation, but now it's so high profile they won't be able to use it for bullet points anymore.

 

[Aquila]

Okay I came here to laugh because ... well nevermind that. Please be aware that trolling <> PUPPAH. Thank you so much.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Well, it was a lot of them. It was not just a few isolated nerds. Yes, it is a little gratifying for them to finally experience this for themselves.


"Fragmentation" does not really exist on Android either. I have been explaining this for years.

You will not need a new OS update to get the latest Maps, or GMail, or Chrome. Much of the stuff baked into iOS are separate apps on Android (and therefore, are updated continuously...not merely once in a blue moon when Google gets around to an OS update). Thats why no one cares if they have the very latest update...it's not needed to get most of the stuff they want.

Apple people, by contrast, better prepare for some headaches.


A lot of these issues would not even be issues on Android...we have 3rd party app integration. We can just use 3rd party solutions if we want and the OS will treat them as a default.

The "it just works" mantra (which many of us have known was BS for some time now) clearly no longer applies. Apple users are now paying a premium to beta test Apple products.


The fact remains that Apple users will now have to shut up about Fragmentation, finally. Apple has always had Frangmentation, but now it's so high profile they won't be able to use it for bullet points anymore.

Fragmentation exists by definition. This can not be disputed. All hardware is not identical on either platform.

That's not really the debate though. The debate is over which platform is most affected by it. That's still Android. Again, that should be common sense. There is a much larger variety of hardware differentiation with Android vendors than on iOS devices.

And I personally don't care about being able to say "Hahaha now you know how it feels" to iOS users that made a big deal about fragmentation. It hasn't affected my choice of device and/or platform before, and it won't now.

 

[JeffDenver]

Fragmentation exists by definition. This can not be disputed. All hardware is not identical on either platform.

I understand what you are saying. Most Apple users I have encountered online do not agree with you. So much so that they will not even discuss it. It is like trying to tell them a herd of invisible green elephants exists in downtown LA.

With the iPhone 6, they will no longer be able to dismiss it.

 

[Farish]

I understand what you are saying. Most Apple users I have encountered online do not agree with you. So much so that they will not even discuss it. It is like trying to tell them a herd of invisible green elephants exists in downtown LA.

With the iPhone 6, they will no longer be able to dismiss it.

They sold 10 million phones over the weekend, you would have to encounter 100000 of those people to reach 1 percent.

Give us empirical evidence that you have reach a significant number of the Apple iPhone 6 user base that have stated there is an actual issue with everything you stated in your last few posts.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

I understand what you are saying. Most Apple users I have encountered online do not agree with you. So much so that they will not even discuss it. It is like trying to tell them a herd of invisible green elephants exists in downtown LA.

With the iPhone 6, they will no longer be able to dismiss it.

Tell them you've seen those elephants. LOL

 

[Ihazterbo]

Just switched from iPhone 5 to a Galaxys5. I think I prefer my iPhone over the Android. I like simple and Android seems to have made everything complicated as well as I hate the apps are different from what I was used to. Maybe I just need more time to get used to this as I've only had it 2 weeks. I'm a tad bit overwhelmed.

 

[TomsAndroid]

Wow...I can't believe that this iOS "fragmentation" is even being compared to Android's...this has happened every time that Apple has changed the screen size or resolution, and it has always been improved very quickly. Essentially all of the current apps will be updated. Android's problem is far greater as, having so much choice between devices, there is such a huge variation in hardware, and even skinned software.

This is where fragmentation is a real problem, not having a few fuzzy apps in the little while before they're updated.

In no way is this enough for anyone to take fragmentation (lack of) off the pro list for iOS devices.


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[Johnly]

So who is still rocking the almighty android? This man!

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[TomsAndroid]

So who is still rocking the almighty android? This man!

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Me, me! But for how long, I don't know...I really shouldn't even be thinking about spending over a grand on a phone I don't need, but, you know...


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[Paul627g]

Just to chime in.. There is nothing Apple is doing that would make me switch. But that is just my personal preference.

 

[Johnly]

Me, me! But for how long, I don't know...I really shouldn't even be thinking about spending over a grand on a phone I don't need, but, you know...


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The more I use iOS 8, the more I clutch my nexus and thank the gods

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[Johnly]

Just to chime in.. There is nothing Apple is doing that would make me switch. But that is just my personal preference.

Googles philosophical approach is much more attractive to me than Apples.

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[TomsAndroid]

The more I use iOS 8, the more I clutch my nexus and thank the gods

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Why is that?


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[Johnly]

Why is that?


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Because, iOS is here and it hasn't changed much besides taking some Q's from android, while Android L is right around the corner with some massive changes that should remain much more exciting IMO

Googles OS evolves at a much more beautiful pace than Apples. (A select few at Apple control what it is, formerly all a vision of the hippy, Jobs himself, while Android is gaining from talented developers world wide.) And they are kind enough to let everyone deliver the hardware you think you need. Apple will rake it's customers next year with QHD and more ram. The regular sized iPhone will get OIS, and everyone will empty their wallets again, because Apple says they must.

In the meantime, android one seeks to get everyone connected on a premium OS without snubbing a nose at cost. Google has been leaps and bound more interesting to follow, and the reward is huge, the savings are great, and it just works.

Apple had no choice but to increase screen size. Thank Google.

Apple is responding, and they do a great job, but they haven't fooled me

There is this feeling of winning carrying a nexus device around amongst the crowd anxiously awaiting their iPhones.

In the end, here is to choice, and I respect both Apple and Google, but Google has a better philosophy of taking tech into the future.


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[RobGG]

No, you know what HTC offers. You used a bloated skinned version of Android.

Actually i found out HTC's "bloated Skinned version of Android" is very close to what Android stock running on my Moto X ... so i do know what android stock offers

 

[TomsAndroid]

Because, iOS is here and it hasn't changed much besides taking some Q's from android, while Android L is right around the corner with some massive changes that should remain much more exciting IMO

Googles OS evolves at a much more beautiful pace than Apples. (A select few at Apple control what it is, formerly all a vision of the hippy, Jobs himself, while Android is gaining from talented developers world wide.) And they are kind enough to let everyone deliver the hardware you think you need. Apple will rake it's customers next year with QHD and more ram. The regular sized iPhone will get OIS, and everyone will empty their wallets again, because Apple says they must.

In the meantime, android one seeks to get everyone connected on a premium OS without snubbing a nose at cost. Google has been leaps and bound more interesting to follow, and the reward is huge, the savings are great, and it just works.

Apple had no choice but to increase screen size. Thank Google.

Apple is responding, and they do a great job, but they haven't fooled me

There is this feeling of winning carrying a nexus device around amongst the crowd anxiously awaiting their iPhones.

In the end, here is to choice, and I respect both Apple and Google, but Google has a better philosophy of taking tech into the future.


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A feeling of winning? How arrogant.

I agree with everything else you said though...

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[Johnly]

A feeling of winning? How arrogant.

I agree with everything else you said though...

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Arrogant? I saved 1,500 bucks grabbing 3 nexus device's for my family vs iPhones. How is that arrogant?

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[crabbist]

Admittedly the iPhone 6 has a beautiful design and a decent size screen but I could never go back to the walled garden that is iOS, it feels far too inhibiting.

 

[Johnly]

When I said a feeling of winning, it was about my purchase. Nothing more than that.

Couple that with running the nexus 5 up against the iPhone 6, and the win feels even better. Apps open faster on the nexus at times and is just as smooth. I don't feel like I am missing anything, and have extra dough for other things. Who doesn't feel like making a solid purchase feels good?


I was reading about this user who stood in line and got the 6 plus to realize it was to big, went back and spent more time trying to exchange it to have to get back in line. He realized he was absolutely miserable about his purchase, felt like trash "his words, not mine," and while I wouldn't wait in line, I wonder how many people are not satisfied with their iPhone purchase due to the cost and the fact it delivers nothing special (nothing unique to the device.) All the things one could get instead of a 128 Gig iPhone 6 plus? I am sure there are people that feel like their iPhone purchase is wonderful, and they are happy with the price they paid. It goes both ways.

I respect both platforms, but I feel like stock android is a way better value and everyone wins.

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