Apple: Get A Life!!!

[Mikey47]

However, if the news of Google's original idea for Android being a Blackberry competitor (physical keyboard phone) and only changed to a touchscreen once Eric Schmidt saw the original iPhone is true, then I'm be just as pissed as Apple is.

Why? Apple did not invent the touchscreen phone, nor did RIM invent the physical keyboard phone. Who cares why he shifted. There are touchscreen and physical keyboard Android phones.

That's like saying Ford should be pissed that Chevy, Nissan, Toyota, etc., cars have four wheels and a steering wheel like the original Ford models.

 

[Vysse]

You can't be pissed when someone uses new technology just because you thought of that use first...honestly it is better for everyone if these technological advancements were available for all to use then instead of focusing on who has what theyd focus on innovation

Sent from an alternate universe where I'm using my new Evo LTE that isn't held in customs.

 

[jkurl15]

Here is EXACTLY why Apple is worried. It's not about the little patents here and there, it's much deeper than that..

When Apple first came out with their OS, it was a OS closely married to their hardware. You could not take their OS and install it on whatever device you wanted. Apple controlled everything from step A to step Z.

Microsoft "stole" their ideas, went on a licensing scheme and exploded, leaving Apple in the dust..


30 years later, Apple again, closely marries their OS to their hardware, step A to step Z. You can't take iOS and install it on any device you want. Google "steals" their ideas, goes on the same path that Microsoft took(I know it's not licensed, but it's not closely married to the hardware either) and leaves Apple in the dust.

It's happened twice to Apple while Steve Jobs was at the helm.. this is the #1 reason why Apple intends to sue all Android manufacturers..

Apple's always been a closed ecosystem.. They did have Mac clones briefly but Steve shut that shop up pretty quickly.

Well said and very level headed thought

 

[fernandez21]

Hey look, it's one of the naive people right here...

no, you're right, that apple person sure is a meanny.

 

[Google10]

I don't buy Apple products but:

• They've had an arithmetic growth rate of 44.1% and a geometric growth rate of 42.4% since 2008.
• Their net profit margin has grown from 16% to 24% in that time.

All in a relatively mature and low margin industry. (The low margin industry being hardware, and of course software is where the money is made) They are in the business of making money, and I struggle to think of more impressive companies from my lifetime.

 

[Cory Streater]

Except they answered it wrong.

This was not a routine inspection.

Got a little side tracked today, but wanted to follow-up on this post. Which part was it that was wrong?

Anyway, all of you guys have made some great points.

 

[nokia4life]

no, you're right, that apple person sure is a meanny.

LMAOF

 

[bplewis24]

I'm as sick as everyone else when it comes to these patent wars. However, if the news of Google's original idea for Android being a Blackberry competitor (physical keyboard phone) and only changed to a touchscreen once Eric Schmidt saw the original iPhone is true, then I'm be just as pissed as Apple is.

That might have been a valid argument if Apple had invented or been the first to use a touch-screen.

 

[bplewis24]

no, you're right, that apple person sure is a meanny.

And you sure are great at reading comprehension and logic.

 

[Chdwil]

Apple has had extreme growth in just the last 10 years starting with the success of the iPod. They can just as quickly erode that success away if they can't continue to be the leader in marketing new technology. Right now more and more iPhone users are switching to new Android devices. Not because they hate Apple, but because the iPhone is not state of the art. I am a one of those people. I still have an iPad and intend on getting a new one until something else comes out that is more intriguing.

 

[mztiklimit]

An administrator shows his fanaticism and hate for Apple. Great show.

As pissed as most of you are of this current situation.. it's all comes down to business. If this was the other way around, I assure you, HTC would do the same thing. In the end, the ones that lose are us the consumers.

Every single day for the past and a half week, I am been looking (locally and online) and waiting to get the white version of this phone. Hoping that AT&T won't do the same move as Verizon did to grandfathered unlimited data users, before I do the upgrade.

Yeah, I'm mad as hell, and would call US Customs to hurry the hell up if it was possible. But there's no reason to rant "Apple, you're products are stale. You're out of ideas".. because the reality is, they aren't. It only makes you look like a cretin.

 

[Cory Streater]

An administrator shows his fanaticism and hate for Apple. Great show.

But there's no reason to rant "Apple, you're products are stale. You're out of ideas".. because the reality is, they aren't. It only makes you look like a cretin.

Did you seriously just call me a stupid, obtuse, mentally defective person?

 

[tewest86]

Let's be honest, Apple is not going anywhere soon. Just because Android is maybe leading in market means nothing. Because you sold more doesn't mean it's better. You see more Toyota Camery's one the road than MB C Class. Does that mean that Camery's are better? A lot of Android phone can be had free with a new contract. Of course they would gain market share. But Apple is still kings. What do you see used in movies and what do celebrities use? You always see Apple products on the big screen. What are some schools buying their students? iPads not Android tablets. I work for the Federal Government. Guess what they are getting us to replace Blackberries. iPhone's. What do real musicians use for music? Apple products. You would get laughed at if you ran a studio with Windows stuff. You see what I'm getting at here? Apple isn't going anywhere.

 

[dmmarck]

An administrator shows his fanaticism and hate for Apple. Great show.

As pissed as most of you are of this current situation.. it's all comes down to business. If this was the other way around, I assure you, HTC would do the same thing. In the end, the ones that lose are us the consumers.

Every single day for the past and a half week, I am been looking (locally and online) and waiting to get the white version of this phone. Hoping that AT&T won't do the same move as Verizon did to grandfathered unlimited data users, before I do the upgrade.

Yeah, I'm mad as hell, and would call US Customs to hurry the hell up if it was possible. But there's no reason to rant "Apple, you're products are stale. You're out of ideas".. because the reality is, they aren't. It only makes you look like a cretin.

Really? How are they not stale? An OS that has barely changed since 2007/2008, with the notable exceptions of poaching notifications, quasi-multi-tasking, and voice actions from a certain other OS. A design--the double glass slate design, specifically--that hasn't changed in what, 2 years now? A design theme, generally, of wrapping aluminum in the same general shape around everything, notably MacBooks, iMacs, and the iPad(s).

How is that not stale? HTC has at least evolved their design and look. The jury's out on Samsung (at least IMO), but really, when you match up the products from 2007 to now, Apple stops growing past minor internal updates (and Siri, et al.) while HTC and Android have grown in leaps and bounds.

How is that being a cretin? How is simple observation and comparison doing anything other than raising a point of opinion, namely that Apple has essentially ceased "crazy development" and has started to take the defensive route to success?

It seems like your post is simple trying to bait said fanatical administrator in an argument, because expressing an opinion (regardless of whether you agree, really) should never render anyone "stupid, obtuse, or mentally defective."

 

[hayate01]

Hi, mztiklimit here,

I guess I took it too far by calling you a cretin. No one here deserves to be insulted. So I do apologize for that.

However, I still think you're overreacting and screaming "Apple, get a life" on the title does not help the situation. I know most of you are big fans of Android and like to ride on the Apple hate train. I like all mobile OSes, they all have their goods and bads, so it really irks me when someone tries to pass an opinion as fact.

I'm probably too mad at the current US customs situation and took it on you. But I don't think it was a valid reason for a permaban. Being a forum admin myself, that's what I think warnings are for. You can do as you'd like. You're the forum administrator. For personal sake, I did apologize. Hopefully, we can all get our One X / evo 4g lte this week.

 

[sniffs]

I don't get why people think that someone with an official position isn't allowed an opinion.

Anyone heard Wall Mossberg rant on AllThingsDigital or the Wall Street Journal? Ever seen his article on the Lumia 900?

Forums are the exact place for rants, and fanaticism.. We all do it every single day.

 

[VickMackey#AC]

Aren't you one of the moderators? Sorry, but rants like this don't have a place in the conversation, either from the apple drones or the fandroids.

I agree. I looked at the title and would have never thought that a forum manager would have written a rant post like that. I dislike Apple as much as the next guy, but cmon...

 

[jkurl15]

I work for the Federal Government. Guess what they are getting us to replace Blackberries. iPhone's.

This is not entirley true. I work for the federal govt as well. You have a choice either an iPhone or Android phone. Most people will pick the iPhone because Apples great marketing and ease of use.

 

[Cory Streater]

FYI - this thread was not intended to be a debate about my level of professionalism because I expressed an opinion. I'd be happy to have a direct discussion with the few who think I should shut my mouth because I run the forums.

However, this is a forum dedicated to Android enthusiasts, and I am one of you. The rules of conduct in the forums are applied equally to all members, and I have nobody to hold myself accountable to except the members of the AC forums community who are here to ask questions, express ideas and opinions, and interact with the community in a healthy way.

I expect differing opinions, and I expect to learn something from those opinions. Debate me, troll me, agree with me, and express your point of views. I'm totally down for that.

However, if you choose to personally attack me, I'm going to take the same course of action that I would take on behalf of any other member. If you ask any of the mods, I really only get shook up when I see 1.) a member personally attacking another member (e.g., being called a stupid, obtuse, mentally defective person) and 2) GPL violations. I leave the rest of it to them to take care of.

I myself am a frustrated Apple consumer. While I wouldn't touch an iPhone, I do have an iMac. I am frustrated by the poor performance of Lion, and the upcoming reviews for Mountain Lion don't sound any better. I do see a company that has lost their creativity and is slipping in terms of quality. And I strongly believe in everything I said in my first post on every single point I listed. This latest situation has frustrated me, and while I know this goes on all over corporate America, this particular situation directly affects myself and the rest of the Android community as a whole.

And contrary to what someone said earlier, I could give mice nuts about how many page views this thread gets.

I'll end it with this:

If you see a thread titled "Apple: Get A Life!!!", assume it's a rant thread. You're not forced to read anything, so dont try and impose your own form of censorship just because you don't like the content of a post. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it, its really not that hard.

I'm glad somebody here isn't afraid to call them what they are. Now if we could just get some of the AC guys to do the same when HTC deserves to be called out, we'd really be getting somewhere.

Brandon

I don't get why people think that someone with an official position isn't allowed an opinion.

Anyone heard Wall Mossberg rant on AllThingsDigital or the Wall Street Journal? Ever seen his article on the Lumia 900?

Forums are the exact place for rants, and fanaticism.. We all do it every single day.

 

[Paul627g]

+1 on that post Cory! Warming up for the podcast Thursday night are we?

FYI, I really appreciate hearing an Apple (iMac) user speak up about their concerns on the direction its going. Very honest and much appreciated to hear this instead of the usual Apple talk of superiority.