Can anyone confirm that it is indeed a world phone?

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I've checked multiple spec sheets but cannot find any confirmation that this phone will truly support GSM. Does anyone have a link to the FCC filings? They usually included a document stating something like GSM connections are intended for use outside the USA and is exempt from approval.
 
Thanks for the link. This was definitely one page that I found along the way, but I was hoping that they were misinformed as many sites are.
 
For an LTE phone to be a world phone it would either

1. need to have 2 SIM card slots
or
2. Other countries would need to deploy LTE on the same 700 Mhz range as Verizon

So no this isn't a world phone and we probably wont see a LTE world phone for a while.
 
I've checked multiple spec sheets but cannot find any confirmation that this phone will truly support GSM. Does anyone have a link to the FCC filings? They usually included a document stating something like GSM connections are intended for use outside the USA and is exempt from approval.

HTC confirmed to me that it's NOT a world phone, so won't work on any GSM network. Unfortunately.
 
For an LTE phone to be a world phone it would either

1. need to have 2 SIM card slots
or
2. Other countries would need to deploy LTE on the same 700 Mhz range as Verizon

So no this isn't a world phone and we probably wont see a LTE world phone for a while.

I wonder why not to have a second SIM slot for a GSM network overseas? Not enough demand? Too expensive? Space limitation? Maybe some manufacturer, at some point in time, will wake up to the need. Maybe in another two years for me.
 
I wonder why not to have a second SIM slot for a GSM network overseas? Not enough demand? Too expensive? Space limitation? Maybe some manufacturer, at some point in time, will wake up to the need. Maybe in another two years for me.

It's not just the space needed for a SIM slot, but the phone would also need to include a GSM radio and possibly another antenna. As LTE chipsets improve they'll get smaller and get improved power consumption, and that will be when we'll finally see LTE phones with GSM radios.


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Since the "goal" is for LTE to be the "world" standard, I don't think you'll ever see an LTE world phone by VZW's current definition of the word. I think they're gonna hold off and wait until LTE becomes a world phone without introducing any odd-ball double SIM LTE phones. Just my opinion. VZW never was "big" on so called world phones anyway -- due to their predominant CDMA technology. Of course, CDMA works in a huge amount of places overseas. Just not Europe. Not sure how "Europe" ever got the "world" moniker anyway. :)

-Frank
 
Since the "goal" is for LTE to be the "world" standard, I don't think you'll ever see an LTE world phone by VZW's current definition of the word. I think they're gonna hold off and wait until LTE becomes a world phone without introducing any odd-ball double SIM LTE phones. Just my opinion. VZW never was "big" on so called world phones anyway -- due to their predominant CDMA technology. Of course, CDMA works in a huge amount of places overseas. Just not Europe. Not sure how "Europe" ever got the "world" moniker anyway. :)

-Frank

The EU has mandated a single standard of cel tech and if you want to have a phone that works anywhere in the world then unfortunately you have to have what they mandated.

I too doubt they will launch any oddball duel SIM devices for LTE and GSM/HSPA, at least not as a mainline device. Maybe a Blackberry or other niche device aimed at business users but even that is a stretch.

Even with MicroSIM's (two of them are about the same size as a single full size SIM), it's the space needed for the radios, the tech to make switching between them seamless, and room for a decent sized battery all working against it.
 
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The EU has mandated a single standard of cel tech and if you want to have a phone that works anywhere in the world then unfortunately you have to have what they mandated.

I too doubt they will launch any oddball duel SIM devices for LTE and GSM/HSPA, at least not as a mainline device. Maybe a Blackberry or other niche device aimed at business users but even that is a stretch.

Even with MicroSIM's (two of them are about the same size as a single full size SIM), it's the space needed for the radios, the tech to make switching between them seamless, and room for a decent sized battery all working against it.

I'm curious, then, how would this apply to AT&T phones and phones other carriers, who are presently on a GSM network in the US, and work in Europe with no problem using their own or European SIMs?
 
I'm curious, then, how would this apply to AT&T phones and phones other carriers, who are presently on a GSM network in the US, and work in Europe with no problem using their own or European SIMs?

Roaming agreements of course. AT&T uses the same bands (including 3G) as most of the rest of the world so the phones are technically compatible and they have agreements with other carriers. LTE will of course be a wildcard. They have to add an international calling addon and pay extra for minutes. I'm not familiar specifically with the rates but yes it works that is what they really mean by "more bars on ore places" (worldwide).

If you want cheaper rates and are OK having a different number when abroad you can also get your AT&T cel phone "SIM Unlocked" for $10 or less here or many cel shops will do it for you while abroad because they want you to buy their SIM.
 
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If you want cheaper rates and are OK having a different number when abroad you can also get your AT&T cel phone "SIM Unlocked" for $10 or less here or many cel shops will do it for you while abroad because they want you to buy their SIM.

After getting my new LTE phone, I intend to have VZW unlock my present BB, and then buy a third party global SIM either here or while abroad.
 
After getting my new LTE phone, I intend to have VZW unlock my present BB, and then buy a third party global SIM either here or while abroad.

A word of advice... do it now before you activate the new phone. One of the VZW requirements to unlock the phone for free is that it must be active on a line (also have you bill in good standing for three months and not have made the same request on a different phone in the last 9 months I think it is)

Call global support at 1-888-844-0395

You will need the IMEI of the device and a SIM card from another carrier.
 
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