Can this rival the iPhone?

[Kevin OQuinn]

Not quite. The A5 is a cousin of the Exynos, and its a beast of a processor. It is just as powerful as the S4, but it isn't as efficient because of the A9 cores.

Its also inappropriate to compare two different processors running different operating systems. Even if there is a difference, the user will never notice because there is nothing to compare them to.

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No. It is at most a generational step forward.

While I agree that the OS will make a difference, saying the Exynos is just as powerful as the S4 is just wrong. See THIS thread for a good explanation of why (it's in their somewhere I think). Also, a similar discussion is going on HERE.

"at most a generational step forward" Yes it is. Which is why it's so much more powerful. It's really not a fair comparison to put anything that's on the market up against the S4. On a per-core basis it trounces anything else. It takes a QUAD-core A9 based chip to keep up (and maybe outperform in certain situations) with the DUAL-core S4.

Until we see the OMAP 5 or Exynos 5250 later this year nothing will keep up on a per-core basis. And they won't be as power efficient.

Where Qualcomm needs to step up is in the GPU department, and that's mostly an architecture problem, because the actual computational abilities of the Adreno 225 are the same as the PowerVR SGX543MP2 (and substantially higher than the Mali-400). It just doesn't get enough bandwidth in other areas to take advantage of the raw horsepower available.

 

[vjr021]

I will tell you, every android have owned or bought for my wife has had issues with locking up, resetting, bugs, etc.

To be fair, most (90%) have been Motorola, and I am typing this on a XT910. I hear HTC is a bit better.

My iPhone worked, and gave me very little issues.

I keep trying androids, and am planning on buying the one x next week. Ill give it a week or so, if not I'm done with Android till the next so update.

 

[vjr021]

I'm probably like you. Tried out the original Galaxy SII i777, Nexus and SkyRocket on AT&T. I get bored very easily with phones, but for some reason I keep going back to the damn iPhone lol. I think its the suport it has with my car stereo and all the cases I have lol.

I really want to move to Android for good. I like iOS and the feel it has but I want more customization out of my OS. I think the One X is a great device to begin a new relationship with Android.

Only complaints are the protruding camera lens and 16GB of memory on the AT&T version. I know the international version is an option but I'd like LTE.

X2.. I'm with you. I hope the X is as good as it seems.

 

[Droid800]

While I agree that the OS will make a difference, saying the Exynos is just as powerful as the S4 is just wrong. See THIS thread for a good explanation of why (it's in their somewhere I think). Also, a similar discussion is going on HERE.

"at most a generational step forward" Yes it is. Which is why it's so much more powerful. It's really not a fair comparison to put anything that's on the market up against the S4. On a per-core basis it trounces anything else. It takes a QUAD-core A9 based chip to keep up (and maybe outperform in certain situations) with the DUAL-core S4.

Until we see the OMAP 5 or Exynos 5250 later this year nothing will keep up on a per-core basis. And they won't be as power efficient.

Where Qualcomm needs to step up is in the GPU department, and that's mostly an architecture problem, because the actual computational abilities of the Adreno 225 are the same as the PowerVR SGX543MP2 (and substantially higher than the Mali-400). It just doesn't get enough bandwidth in other areas to take advantage of the raw horsepower available.

Well, honestly, the 4s will appear to be faster in most everything because of the OS differences. That's more what's was getting at. You can't really compare them because of how different the OSes are.

 

[jontalk]

Some good comments here and since I've ONLY owned a iPhone (3G), I have no means of comparison. That said, I think the One X is the coolest of all Android phones at ATT by an order of magnitude. I had been contemplating the Skyrocket or G Note, but the issues reported about these devices coupled with the crappy build quality and over saturated colors keeps me away.

I want to see what sort of issues surface along with feedback once ATT subscribers have had their One X for awhile.. Playing with a demo compared to practical everyday use is no real basis for comparison nor is reading a review from some phone site who's had it for a week. REAL LIFE use will tell the story.

That said, I'm SO done with Apple for many reasons. And the screen on the One X makes my dinky 3.5" iPhone look like a dinosaur and I think it's FAR better looking than the NON LTE 4S too.. My $.025

 

[usirius1]

Everyone is complaining about the AT& T version only having 16gb of storage compared to the 32GB, and but both only have 2GB for APP installation.. Sure you can install some apps in the remaining space like app2sd. But maybe some of us actually don't need nor do we care about having more than 10GB. I personally wouldn't not use that much space.. I am currently using an evo shift with a 16gb card,and have yet to fill it up. Rather my issue is with the awful internal storage space. I think that the One X is an an amazing piece of tech and cannot wait for mine to get here thursday

 

[gadgetluva]

It's simple. The reason why the iPhone continues to dominate sales? There's really only one each year, with various memory configs of course.

Look at AT&T - it has over 20 different Android smartphones on sale. And there's a new "high-end" model every couple of months that people are always waiting for. Think about it; even if you start with the GS2 in October, the GS2 Skyrocket in November, the Galaxy Note in February, the HTC One X in May, and soon the GS3 will be announced and released in the next couple of months. That's 5 high end devices in around 6-7 months. That's the biggest reason why people tend to "forget" new Android devices. Because a new, better model is ALWAYS right around the corner. iPhones come once a year, sometimes even longer (as was the case with the iPhone 4 --> 4s).

 

[jmartinbsu]

So why won't this phone rival the iPhone...?

iOS will never go "public". This is because Apple is first a hardware company (with a good OS). They make a crap ton of money selling their hardware (computers, phones, iPads, etc) and transitioning to a Microsoft business model would be catastrophic for them. That's why you see small companies being sued when they figure out how to put iOS on custom built rigs, etc.

Getting back to the phones though, what they do give you is a seamless experience across almost every device. If you had an iPhone 3g you could pickup a 4g and know exactly how to use it.

Google's Android isn't about building hardware. For Google it's about providing a software experience that you will want to use. This provides more search revenue for them. As far as the X goes, no, it's not going to be an iPhone rival. It's going to be an amazing phone though that android users will enjoy. It's going to sell a hell of a lot of units too.

If we're just talking about phone operating systems though, Android is the winner here. They already sell more android OS phones each day and there's more of them in the market when compared to iOS. If anything, when we're talking just about the OS, Apple is Android's rival.

 

[anon(557159)]

I'd say apple people are "trapped" into Apple. As with many of us Android people, they also have a huge sum of money in apps not to mention accessories. However, Android users are not locked into any phone at all. We can freely upgrade phones at any time and keep the exact same apps. It costs no money to change android phones. Hence, why not upgrade? iPhone user can only upgrade to the next iPhone, once a year. So, it is always popular, at least for a year, since there are no other choices for them. It comes down to choices: iPhone has no other options.

 

[ausch30]

Here is an equally hyperbolic (but opposite) article related to this thread.

The End Of Android Approaches ... - Business Insider

Same evidence as this thread, and the wsj article and yet an equally incorrect conclusion.



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I was reading through this thread and got to this comment and had to respond.

According to this
comScore: Android tips the 51% mark in US share, iPhone nips its heels with 31% -- Engadget

Android is up 3.7% over the last quarter to 51% of the US market. Meanwhile iOS is up 1.1% for 30.7% of the US market. According to your link the iPhone is selling at 56% of smartphone sales for the 3 US carriers that have it. I find it difficult to believe that Android is selling so many fewer devices and yet more than tripled iOS's growth over the quarter. Someone seems to be using some creative accounting to come up with these figures.

Its pretty simple really.
People who look to buy Android phones have th? option of going for 50$ budget phones and older devices which cost less while still giving good specs, hence higher end phones like th? rezound and gnex are less sought for.
Those who go th? iOS way have only one choice: th? current g?n?ration of iphone.
Also, those who buy High end phones associate Android with th? 50$ phones and consider it cheap.


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Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T all sell the iPhone 4 for $99 so the argument of Android phones are cheaper isn't true and hasn't been for a while.

I also saw several people mention battery life. It's true that battery life on most Android phones has been poor but if you read the One X reviews you'll see that poor battery life isn't the case anymore. For those concerned about storage, EVO 4G LTE. Everything the One X is, plus a bigger battery, plus a microSD slot, plus a physical camera button, plus a kickstand. I firmly believe it's the phone the One X should have been.

 

[Crispy]

Will "device X" be an iPhone-killer has a pretty simple answer - No. The reasons are many and well known whether or not you believe Apple deserve their success.

What cannot be disputed though, and I say this as a firm Android supporter, is iOS is a much more efficient OS. Even ICS on a multicore phone with gigabytes of memory is not as smooth and lag free as iOS on a much lower spec'd iPhone. Google till ICS completely ignored basics like hardware acceleration in the OS - that is completely inexcusable.

This is a big reason why so many people love their iPhones - the experience is very limiting but consistent. If you can't tweak anything then very little can break, and the OS is full of nice touches and very smooth.

 

[TenshiNo]

Not correct at all. See this article. They are gaining new users like crazy.

Only problem with an article like that is that it's misleading. The article shows that Apple is "shipping" substantially more phones in the last quarter. This *could* mean that they are selling more than they did the quarter before, but the article also mentions "new markets", which means Apple how to ship stock to those new markets to populate them, so that could *drastically* skew these numbers. Populating a new market is *nothing* like replacing sold inventory in an existing market.

Most of Apple's success, I believe, is straight up marketing. They declared the iPhone an "iconic" device, so a ton of people feel the *need* to buy one so they won't look like a loser to their friends.

The interface is simpler. I'll give it that. But it's done at the cost of customization.

 

[tommy_2]

Hate to say. But the iPhone does not out so the nexus .

 

[vcarvega]

The reason the 4S is still selling as compared to any individual Android phone is b/c there are no alternatives for iOS users. Android users have plenty of options w/ each new phone often being better than the last.

 

[say anything]

Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T all sell the iPhone 4 for $99 so the argument of Android phones are cheaper isn't true and hasn't been for a while.

Yes it is. You can walk into a phone store and get an LG Marquee for free, or an HTC Inspire 4G for $10, or even something more recent like a Motorola Photon for $49.

 

[igotchicken]

The One X as a phone already far out does the IPhone. Android as an OS, also quite readily rivals, actually dominates IOS if we look at market share. But I think the main problem with IOS users is that the vast majority of them haven't even tried a high end Android device to see what it's all about. I personally know, through meetings and social events, of people that "hear" about their brother's aunties sisters twin kitten that had an Android phone and wanted to toss it into the river. But in most situations when asked what the device was, you find out that it was one of the entry level devices that one would expect to be limited in performance and unable to run the star fleet with. So they judge Android as a whole in these hear say situations involving crappy low end devices to begin with. Well currently, I have the One X and I came from having the Evo3D and the iPhone 4 just before that. Apart from the WiFi issues I'm having on the One X (which should be sorted with the much anticipated version 1.29 in Europe) I'm loving it and have never enjoyed a mobile device such as this ever before. My partner now has my IPhone and after getting the One X and letting her play around on it...I can see we're going to need another One X, luckily iPhones main best feature is they hold their value really well so it won't cost too much to get another One X

 

[ausch30]

Yes it is. You can walk into a phone store and get an LG Marquee for free, or an HTC Inspire 4G for $10, or even something more recent like a Motorola Photon for $49

You are correct, there are options for very inexpensive or free Android devices at all carriers and even a lot of their higher-end phones such as the Nexus S in it's day was free with contract when it was close to EOL. Companies wouldn't continue to make high-end phones though if they didn't sell. If all people bought were $49 Android phones, that's all you'd see.

 

[Shadowriver]

I think main problem that people not realize is fact that most people don't care about possibilities, potential and how powerful it is, it just needs to work and do all needed things that "smartphone" (PDA+Phone) should do and it needs to work smooth, Both systems go good job with it. For them it does not matter if they use iOS or Android, it's just matter of style

Im user of iPod touch 1Gen (most hardware feature limited iOS device you can get) and Galaxy S2, and when i got my Galaxy i don't feel much difference in way i use the device, i can do exact same things needed for daily usage (ofcorse except phone and camera since it's iPod).

Really people who care about every detale of what OS can do are minority and if you find iOS user who care they most likely got it jailbreaked and can do what Android can at that point.

 

[Mellimel22]

You are correct, there are options for very inexpensive or free Android devices at all carriers and even a lot of their higher-end phones such as the Nexus S in it's day was free with contract when it was close to EOL. Companies wouldn't continue to make high-end phones though if they didn't sell. If all people bought were $49 Android phones, that's all you'd see.

I just got my Nexus S 4G 3 months ago for free with contract and my credit isnt perfect either lol

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[saintforlife]

Will I be wrong in saying that the HTC One X will still be a better phone overall than the iPhone even after iPhone 5 is released or any Android phone this year for that matter? I just don't see how this hardware can be matched for at least one more year. The display resolution is kind of maxed out for a device this size. The dual core S4 is plenty fast while having great battery life. The only knock on the 1X will be its 16GB storage size.