Can you create templates for Notes on the Note 8?

[Mike Heppe]

Hey guys. I'm a nurse. I'd like to use my note as my daily "brain" so I don't have to carry around paper all day. Plus it's cool. For those of you who have no clue a nurse brain is where we take down info about the patient and all the stuff we need to do for the day. Basically I'd like to create a template on the Samsung note app but haven't found a way to do it. Any thoughts? Can you even create templates?
Thanks

 

[kj11]

Re: nurse has a question

Your Note 8 has a write on PDF app... What about creating your template as a PDF document, then using the write on app to enter your applicable notes?

 

[Preach2k]

Re: nurse has a question

Hey guys. I'm a nurse. I'd like to use my note as my daily "brain" so I don't have to carry around paper all day. Plus it's cool. For those of you who have no clue a nurse brain is where we take down info about the patient and all the stuff we need to do for the day. Basically I'd like to create a template on the Samsung note app but haven't found a way to do it. Any thoughts? Can you even create templates?
Thanks

Have you tried S-Note? Maybe you can create a template in word and save it on the Word app.

 

[maf113]

Re: nurse has a question

Hey guys. I'm a nurse. I'd like to use my note as my daily "brain" so I don't have to carry around paper all day. Plus it's cool. For those of you who have no clue a nurse brain is where we take down info about the patient and all the stuff we need to do for the day. Basically I'd like to create a template on the Samsung note app but haven't found a way to do it. Any thoughts? Can you even create templates?
Thanks

The problem is the Note may not meet HIPAA compliance. Check with your IT department. Since all Galaxy phones including the Note 8, have Knox so the device could be made compliant with additional software. However, I doubt that your IT nor your hospital, will allow you to use a personal device to record patient info.

 

[buckifvr]

Re: nurse has a question

The problem is the Note may not meet HIPAA compliance. Check with your IT department. Since all Galaxy phones including the Note 8, have Knox so the device could be made compliant with additional software. However, I doubt that your IT nor your hospital, will allow you to use a personal device to record patient info.

Hipaa is an issue also if you were to lose your device patients personal information would be vulnerable.

 

[brau0303]

Re: nurse has a question

I work in IT at a Hospital, you would likely be ok if you:
-1. Do not capture any sensitive patient data that's unique or identifying to the patient.
-2. You could likely capture vitals and similar data and only associate with a room number for charting.
-3. Purge the data before you leave the facility. (never share any data with anyone)
-4. Disable anything that could store any data to the cloud.

But, The Best thing would be to check with your IT dept to be sure what their specific policy is.
(I use my Note daily but I don't capture any patient data).

Cheers,
BR

 

[Deke218]

Re: nurse has a question

Hey guys. I'm a nurse. I'd like to use my note as my daily "brain" so I don't have to carry around paper all day. Plus it's cool. For those of you who have no clue a nurse brain is where we take down info about the patient and all the stuff we need to do for the day. Basically I'd like to create a template on the Samsung note app but haven't found a way to do it. Any thoughts? Can you even create templates?
Thanks

Try saving one of the forms that suits your needs at this site. Then use it as a writable pdf.

Also, there maybe something in the play store that may help. I just did a quick search but I don't know what would be of use to you.

http://scrubsmag.com/nurse-brain-sheets/

 

[avandie]

Re: nurse has a question

The problem is the Note may not meet HIPAA compliance. Check with your IT department. Since all Galaxy phones including the Note 8, have Knox so the device could be made compliant with additional software. However, I doubt that your IT nor your hospital, will allow you to use a personal device to record patient info.

I second that. I'm a nurse and a hospital adminstrator. Doing what you're suggesting would be great but likely land you in a lot of hot water. The fines for this are pretty steep so please take this seriously.

 

[Tim1954]

Re: nurse has a question

In a critical care nurse also, I can't see any hospital being happy with you recording pt data on personal device...

 

[Brew Swayne]

Re: nurse has a question

As a non-nurse and likely future hospital patient I can honestly say that the thought of medical staff taking notes on their personal phone of my medical issues, treatment, etc does not sit well with me.

 

[anon(1733)]

Re: nurse has a question

As a non-nurse and likely future hospital patient I can honestly say that the thought of medical staff taking notes on their personal phone of my medical issues, treatment, etc does not sit well with me.

I get that. But honestly does it matter. I mean nothing to stop someone from writing it down on paper then putting it in their phone anyway when you can't see. I mean there's a certain amount of trust. It's really no different if you think of it that way. Shes not keeping it on her phone. Just using the phone to jot stuff down. No different if she had paper. She could just as easily take the notebook home. Loose it and guess what. Your info is out there.

We expect a certain level of privacy and trust in certain people to respect that and not divulge it. That's why when there is a breach there is consequences. I truly don't see the difference. And don't say well what about hackers hacking the phone. We see clearly that happens anyway in everything. Look at Equifax recently and even the federal government. Happens every day everywhere. Unless we get rid of technology completely this will always be a issue.

 

[Brew Swayne]

Re: nurse has a question

It's a phone forum so I'm not going to argue about hipaa and any legal/privacy concerns, but I'll simply say that storing patient information on a device that will leave the medical facility with you at the end of your shift does not sound like a good idea.

 

[brau0303]

Re: nurse has a question

This relates to the OP's question but let's not debate HIPPAA here. I have pasted an overview of what's covered below. I have also included a link to additional information for those that want to know more.

Protected Health Information. The Privacy Rule protects all "individually
identifiable health information" held or transmitted by a covered entity or its business
associate, in any form or media, whether electronic, paper, or oral. The Privacy Rule
calls this information "protected health information (PHI)."12
OCR Privacy Rule Summary 4 Last Revised 05/03
“Individually identifiable health information” is information, including demographic
data, that relates to:
• the individual’s past, present or future physical or mental health or
condition,
• the provision of health care to the individual, or
• the past, present, or future payment for the provision of health care to the
individual,
and that identifies the individual or for which there is a reasonable basis to believe
can be used to identify the individual.13 Individually identifiable health information
includes many common identifiers (e.g., name, address, birth date, Social Security
Number).

**Please do not respond to or debate what I have posted about HIPPAA, I just wanted people to have a better understanding of what's protected** It's an excerpt directly from documentation at https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/security/laws-regulations/index.html

Cheers,
BR

 

[Biteingplates]

Re: nurse has a question

Hey guys. I'm a nurse. I'd like to use my note as my daily "brain" so I don't have to carry around paper all day. Plus it's cool. For those of you who have no clue a nurse brain is where we take down info about the patient and all the stuff we need to do for the day. Basically I'd like to create a template on the Samsung note app but haven't found a way to do it. Any thoughts? Can you even create templates?
Thanks

I'm a resident physician, and have to manage many many patients and be efficient as much as possible. I don't think it is appropriate to utilize a phone for such activities. HIPPA compliance issues definitely. Most importantly, it takes away from the intimacy of what a patient encounter should be. Patients feel they are not given the attention they need, as well as confidence/trust they deserve. I've dictated notes with no PHI while getting slammed at with admissions, but these were done in private and even if someone got ahold of my phone there would be no identifying material what so ever. Please do yourself and your patients a favor and utilize paper if need be. I personally wouldn't want my nurse or doctor using a phone to take notes and or labs, vitals, etc.

 

[Gary02468]

Re: nurse has a question

Hipaa is an issue also if you were to lose your device patients personal information would be vulnerable.

If the phone is securely encrypted and if the information is kept in the Secure Folder with another layer of encryption, then there would be no such vulnerability. Still, the hospital rules may not trust individual nurses to set up their own data security.

No different if [he] had paper. [He] could just as easily take the notebook home. [Lose] it and guess what. Your info is out there.

Yes, which is why writing patient info on unapproved pieces of paper is prohibited, too.

 

[ajb1965]

Re: nurse has a question

You should check with your IT or Clinical Informatics department to see if your EMR has an approved mobile client. It may require you to install a third party big brother program like AirWatch or similar Mobile Device Management software.

I also work IT for a large health care organization.

 

[Forgewizard]

Re: nurse has a question

Don't hospitals have their own dedicated secured devices for this electronic recording?

My Doctor office inputs notes directly to the pc.

When I worked at the vet office all patient info went directly to the pc.

We could take notes of procedures and duties and medication storage etc. But patient info was always confidential and input to the pc app.

 

[TechnologyTwitt]

Re: nurse has a question

It's a phone forum so I'm not going to argue about hipaa and any legal/privacy concerns, but I'll simply say that storing patient information on a device that will leave the medical facility with you at the end of your shift does not sound like a good idea.

Again - no different than jotting patient info down on a piece of paper, stuffing it in a pocket & then taking it home. IMHO, that piece of paper can get lost more easily than the data being on a device.

 

[Brew Swayne]

Re: nurse has a question

Again - no different than jotting patient info down on a piece of paper, stuffing it in a pocket & then taking it home. IMHO, that piece of paper can get lost more easily than the data being on a device.

The difference is intent. I don't know how else to explain this other than saying I don't want my medical info on your personal freaking cell phone that you will take home with you every single day.

I'm out. Close thread please, because this is a useless conversation.

 

[TechnologyTwitt]

Re: nurse has a question

The difference is intent. I don't know how else to explain this other than saying I don't want my medical info on your personal freaking cell phone that you will take home with you every single day.

I'm out. Close thread please, because this is a useless conversation.

Information is never useless.... There is confirmation though from Samsung that states that the Note 8 does not have encryption capability.

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Chatting with a Samsung representative a moment ago confirmed that the Galaxy Note 8 does not have device encryption capability, which renders business class Outlook and OWA installs impossible (the apps install, but cannot connect an account because encryption is required)

Source: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...-Device-Encryption-and-MS-Outlook/td-p/162315

That would be a much more valid reason to eliminate it as an option vs. you stomping up & down.