Me either other than my own personal opinion of it being a very ugly device (reminds me of the Droid X the way the top of the back looks). But less than stellar reviews, nonexistent in my research.
Cancelled my 6P Pre-order and Pre-ordered a BlackBerry Priv
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Me either other than my own personal opinion of it being a very ugly device (reminds me of the Droid X the way the top of the back looks). But less than stellar reviews, nonexistent in my research.
Yeah, the AMOLED displays look fantastic that is, until they start to show burn-in, ghosting, whatever you call it like my Note 4 has done with the notification bar since about the 6 month mark.
Is the 6p accurate mode the same as the note5 basic mode? because basic mode looked awful, it was very yellow along with photo mode. only mode i could use was adaptive and cinema was overly saturated. even though i know many people prefer amoled i wish the 6p had an lcd because honestly i found the note 5 screen to be a bit grainy and i prefer natural colors.
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I actually just sold my LG G4 with a ton of extras on Swappa. I had it here in the Marketplace but no one bit. I sold it for out-of-pocket money for next (and final) semester of college; however, I won't lie, I really, reeeally want to try out a Priv.... going back to my trusty ol' Nexus 5 for the time being as the daily driver.
Hopefully by the time I can grab one, they'll be a reasonable price. In my opinion, the price of the Priv is a little crazy at the moment.
Hopefully by the time I can grab one, they'll be a reasonable price. In my opinion, the price of the Priv is a little crazy at the moment.
I read the Pocketnow comparison (and watched the video) and it clearly concluded that the 6P display was the obvious choice over the 5X.
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OP: Your points are generally subjectively valid, but if we're going by the reviews, here are a number of relatively "1st-tier" tech sites review headlines. Note, I can't provide links because I don't generally post on the forums, and so I can't post links. I assure you they're there though with just a little digging 
:
Gizmodo: The Android Phone for Everyone ("It’s cheaper than flagships like the Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, and I think you would be nuts to buy those over the Nexus 6P, which is a better phone")
Wired: "The Nexus 6P is absolutely the best Nexus phone ever. Hell, it’s the best Android phone ever."
The Verge: The Best Android Phone ("The Nexus was always a good Android phone, sometimes a great one, but never the best one. Now it is.")
And for a technical take, ArsTechnica: The True Flagships of the Android Ecosystem ("Every other Android phone pales in comparison to the Nexus 5X and 6P.")
It's perfectly valid for you to value the items stated in your OP over anything else, but note that the 6P beats the Note 5 (handily, I might add), in ArsTechnica's Wi-Fi browsing test, while losing in the CPU rundown. The Wi-Fi test is generally a test of display efficiency (if not quality), so take that as you will. In camera, I'd say they trade off, personally. Sound quality through headphones... I haven't seen anything stating that but I haven't seen it stated the other way. On the other hand though, pure sound quality is likely a massive advantage for the 6P. I personally don't think sound quality is likely to make much of a difference on any phone when you're using earbuds.
And you're forgetting a couple great things about the Nexus line:
- Software. Touchwiz might be (by some opinions) decent, but it's hard to argue that it helps the devices performance. It definitely brings some advantages, but overall, most (and this is subjective), prefer stock android.
- Updates, updates, updates. The nexus 5 just got Marshmallow. That was the same year as the Galaxy S4, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4 got Lollipop, in the year of the Galaxy S3. That's a big difference in OS updates, not to mention the speed they come out at. My AT&T S6 (holding onto it until my 6P comes in) didn't get 5.1.1 until about two weeks ago.
- Security. Semi-tied to the updates above, and kind of self explanatory.
- Other features. Always-On. Actually getting Marshmallow before April. Ambient display.
On the other hand, the Priv? OS Updates, while I expect Blackberry would do well on them, are COMPLETELY unproven. This is a gen-1 product. Software quality is completely unproven. Camera - unproven. The priv could be a great phone. It could be a gen-1 device that needs another year to mature. And you said you'd return or sell it if you didn't like it, but why didn't you do the same thing for the 6P?
It's perfectly reasonable for you to value some points over others that cause you to pick the Note 5 over the 6P, don't get me wrong, but I think it's disingenuous to call the reviews "less than stellar." I've already provided four that included some version of "this is the best android phone you can buy today." Others I've looked at have included CNET and Engadget. Both concluded that the 6P is an incredibly good buy, and competitive with any other option out there. I'm not saying that it's literally impossible to prefer the Note 5, but I think it's disingenuous to say the reviews were "less than stellar." I just provided 6 reviews that concluded either that it is the best Android on the market or that it's an incredibly good, first tier phone. I'd love to see a similar number of reviews from well read sites that have a less than stellar conclusion. And if they aren't well read, why are they influencing your purchasing decision?
:Gizmodo: The Android Phone for Everyone ("It’s cheaper than flagships like the Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, and I think you would be nuts to buy those over the Nexus 6P, which is a better phone")
Wired: "The Nexus 6P is absolutely the best Nexus phone ever. Hell, it’s the best Android phone ever."
The Verge: The Best Android Phone ("The Nexus was always a good Android phone, sometimes a great one, but never the best one. Now it is.")
And for a technical take, ArsTechnica: The True Flagships of the Android Ecosystem ("Every other Android phone pales in comparison to the Nexus 5X and 6P.")
It's perfectly valid for you to value the items stated in your OP over anything else, but note that the 6P beats the Note 5 (handily, I might add), in ArsTechnica's Wi-Fi browsing test, while losing in the CPU rundown. The Wi-Fi test is generally a test of display efficiency (if not quality), so take that as you will. In camera, I'd say they trade off, personally. Sound quality through headphones... I haven't seen anything stating that but I haven't seen it stated the other way. On the other hand though, pure sound quality is likely a massive advantage for the 6P. I personally don't think sound quality is likely to make much of a difference on any phone when you're using earbuds.
And you're forgetting a couple great things about the Nexus line:
- Software. Touchwiz might be (by some opinions) decent, but it's hard to argue that it helps the devices performance. It definitely brings some advantages, but overall, most (and this is subjective), prefer stock android.
- Updates, updates, updates. The nexus 5 just got Marshmallow. That was the same year as the Galaxy S4, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4 got Lollipop, in the year of the Galaxy S3. That's a big difference in OS updates, not to mention the speed they come out at. My AT&T S6 (holding onto it until my 6P comes in) didn't get 5.1.1 until about two weeks ago.
- Security. Semi-tied to the updates above, and kind of self explanatory.
- Other features. Always-On. Actually getting Marshmallow before April. Ambient display.
On the other hand, the Priv? OS Updates, while I expect Blackberry would do well on them, are COMPLETELY unproven. This is a gen-1 product. Software quality is completely unproven. Camera - unproven. The priv could be a great phone. It could be a gen-1 device that needs another year to mature. And you said you'd return or sell it if you didn't like it, but why didn't you do the same thing for the 6P?
It's perfectly reasonable for you to value some points over others that cause you to pick the Note 5 over the 6P, don't get me wrong, but I think it's disingenuous to call the reviews "less than stellar." I've already provided four that included some version of "this is the best android phone you can buy today." Others I've looked at have included CNET and Engadget. Both concluded that the 6P is an incredibly good buy, and competitive with any other option out there. I'm not saying that it's literally impossible to prefer the Note 5, but I think it's disingenuous to say the reviews were "less than stellar." I just provided 6 reviews that concluded either that it is the best Android on the market or that it's an incredibly good, first tier phone. I'd love to see a similar number of reviews from well read sites that have a less than stellar conclusion. And if they aren't well read, why are they influencing your purchasing decision?
OP: Your points are generally subjectively valid, but if we're going by the reviews, here are a number of relatively "1st-tier" tech sites review headlines. Note, I can't provide links because I don't generally post on the forums, and so I can't post links. I assure you they're there though with just a little digging
Gizmodo: The Android Phone for Everyone ("It’s cheaper than flagships like the Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, and I think you would be nuts to buy those over the Nexus 6P, which is a better phone")
Wired: "The Nexus 6P is absolutely the best Nexus phone ever. Hell, it’s the best Android phone ever."
The Verge: The Best Android Phone ("The Nexus was always a good Android phone, sometimes a great one, but never the best one. Now it is.")
And for a technical take, ArsTechnica: The True Flagships of the Android Ecosystem ("Every other Android phone pales in comparison to the Nexus 5X and 6P.")
It's perfectly valid for you to value the items stated in your OP over anything else, but note that the 6P beats the Note 5 (handily, I might add), in ArsTechnica's Wi-Fi browsing test, while losing in the CPU rundown. The Wi-Fi test is generally a test of display efficiency (if not quality), so take that as you will. In camera, I'd say they trade off, personally. Sound quality through headphones... I haven't seen anything stating that but I haven't seen it stated the other way. On the other hand though, pure sound quality is likely a massive advantage for the 6P. I personally don't think sound quality is likely to make much of a difference on any phone when you're using earbuds.
And you're forgetting a couple great things about the Nexus line:
- Software. Touchwiz might be (by some opinions) decent, but it's hard to argue that it helps the devices performance. It definitely brings some advantages, but overall, most (and this is subjective), prefer stock android.
- Updates, updates, updates. The nexus 5 just got Marshmallow. That was the same year as the Galaxy S4, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4 got Lollipop, in the year of the Galaxy S3. That's a big difference in OS updates, not to mention the speed they come out at. My AT&T S6 (holding onto it until my 6P comes in) didn't get 5.1.1 until about two weeks ago.
- Security. Semi-tied to the updates above, and kind of self explanatory.
- Other features. Always-On. Actually getting Marshmallow before April. Ambient display.
On the other hand, the Priv? OS Updates, while I expect Blackberry would do well on them, are COMPLETELY unproven. This is a gen-1 product. Software quality is completely unproven. Camera - unproven. The priv could be a great phone. It could be a gen-1 device that needs another year to mature. And you said you'd return or sell it if you didn't like it, but why didn't you do the same thing for the 6P?
It's perfectly reasonable for you to value some points over others that cause you to pick the Note 5 over the 6P, don't get me wrong, but I think it's disingenuous to call the reviews "less than stellar." I've already provided four that included some version of "this is the best android phone you can buy today." Others I've looked at have included CNET and Engadget. Both concluded that the 6P is an incredibly good buy, and competitive with any other option out there. I'm not saying that it's literally impossible to prefer the Note 5, but I think it's disingenuous to say the reviews were "less than stellar." I just provided 6 reviews that concluded either that it is the best Android on the market or that it's an incredibly good, first tier phone. I'd love to see a similar number of reviews from well read sites that have a less than stellar conclusion. And if they aren't well read, why are they influencing your purchasing decision?
Less than stellar for the areas that are important to me. That's a fact, not disingenuous but thanks for stopping by. It is also a fact that a Note 5 can be bought for the same price as N6p so they are directly comparable. Phone Arena rates the N6p several points lower than the Note 5 citing many of my complaints as the reasons for the lower rating. You also seem to think I am slagging the Nexus, I am not. It's a fine device for those with different needs than me. Headphone sound output is very important to me and several sites have indicated the output is roughly HALF that of the Note 5. For me, that's a deal killer in and of itself.
As for the Priv, I preordered, nothing more. If the reviews pan out, I will take it for a ride. If not, I'll cancel.
Well then, state your opinion, as you did. I never said you couldn't feel that way (I actually said multiple times that you were welcome to do so), but it IS disingenuous to say the reviews were less than stellar. That's all I'm getting at. Nearly every reviewer on major sites right now loved the 6P. Most of them (more than half) called it the best device you could buy. That's not "less than stellar." It might give you a less than stellar opinion of the 6P, but that's your real (totally legitimate) reason for not liking the 6P based on what you read. The reviews themselves were glowing. You've cited one (phone arena) that rated it lower. I cited 4 that give it top marks, and 2 that give it first tier marks.
I'm not really arguing over your ability to have a lower opinion of the 6P than the Note 5. That's perfectly fine, just like it's perfectly fine for me to prefer an iPhone, a Lumia, or a flip phone. It's weird to act like the conclusions of the reviews are what influenced your opinion, when it's just several points. Like I said, you're more than entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't really change the fact that the 6P got awesome reviews.
I don't really think you're slagging the Nexus. It's really just an argument over semantics, your point would likely make more sense to most people here as "The reviews of the 6P are great (which I think can be argued as objectively true), but the cons don't make it worth it over the Note 5 (which is subjectively true or false)." We're kind of just at opposite ends. The reviews for the Note 5 were great. But the phone isn't for me.
I would rather choose Blackberry Priv over Note 5 or 6P why ?? why do we need better specs and camera ?? Don't you ever thought that blackebrry is the the most secure phone than Apple or any other smartphones? for blackberry with android software is the best ever happen for many Blackberry users in a long time.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I've been known to be occasionally, but doesn't BlackBerry's security lie within it's software and not the actual hardware? If that's the case, this is running Android so it's not any more secure than any Android powered phone running the same OS version.
The P in 6P stands for "periscope" I think. Camera bar reminds me of those old golf periscopes from the 70-80s. Strange.
Don't shoot, but reading the reviews for this device and some of the comments in this thread caused me to pre-order the 6P.
Get the priv will support Android pay and what's with the word Stella damn
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Very cool.
I darn near pre-ordered the 6P as well, but decided to pre-order the Priv instead. For me it was really 2 main reasons:
- The lack of SD card on the 6P (I already had an incident of losing 6 months worth of photos cause one of my previous phones got smashed/destroyed and was un-recoverable).
- The 5.7" screen is just a little too big for my hand.
The more I learn about the Priv's security features, the more excited I get for Nov. 6th. Good luck with yours, I hope you like it as well!
I darn near pre-ordered the 6P as well, but decided to pre-order the Priv instead. For me it was really 2 main reasons:
- The lack of SD card on the 6P (I already had an incident of losing 6 months worth of photos cause one of my previous phones got smashed/destroyed and was un-recoverable).
- The 5.7" screen is just a little too big for my hand.
The more I learn about the Priv's security features, the more excited I get for Nov. 6th. Good luck with yours, I hope you like it as well!
The more that comes out about this product, the more tantalising it is. Still happy with my Passport, but yowsers I'm thinking about this as a business phone.
but they did say the 5x has 2 advantages over the 6p in display.
"They said the 5X panel is more readable in direct sunlight and has a better white color. Not a blue green sickly like the 6P and then they state I know our camera is causing the opposite to be true here but thats just not true. trust me."
Led panels tend to do better in direct sunlight than amoled. They also tend to look faded and lack the deep blacks that amoled panels tend to have. As far as the color is concerned, amoled panels tend to vary a bit. It would be difficult to conclude anything from one report.
The bottom line is that the reviewer concluded that the 6P screen was superior and implied that it wasn't a close contest.
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