Check out this iPhone users review of the Evo, it's brutal!

[fonefanatic]

I wonder if this guy gets a kick back from Apple and AT&T!!! HAHA what a joke this is, people like this guy will never EVER like another cell phone other than the great fruit phone they bow down to

 

[Night Train]

Guy's obviously preaching to his fanboy choir giving them some talking points...

The other 99% of the reviews out there essentially say this guy's a liar.

 

[Setite]

Rebuttal. As a former iPhone evangelist I think I understand, if don't agree with all of it.

The 3G is truly amazing, and since it's more complete, it is tempting to ignore the 4G. I am in a 4G market, and I like it for the most part. I get 150ms pings and speeds of 1-3Mbps. I get 1mbps symmetrical on 3G so you can see how, unless you are downloading or sharing with friends there isn't much incentive to use 4G. Higher frequency means it likely has to work harder to transmit/recieve.

I have chargers and outlets in every room/vehicle so I can't speak to battery life. I would guess its around 6 hours depending on screen brightness. He is correct in saying that the "Android System" which I suspect is all the network enabled HTC components. I have killed twitter, FB, news, etc since I don't see a need for anything to poll so often. The iPhone is a feat in battery life, achieved through strict control of every aspect of the device, but this comes at a cost. So if we were comparing features, I would say battery life iPhone vs EVO is a wash. You can always buy a spare battery, and still be under the cost of an iPhone.

I can't speak much to idea of a screen being too big. Then again, I took to carrying a messenger bag when I got the first Kindle. I find that it makes my life easier all over. My pants are more comfortable without so many things in my pockets poking me. I also find that my devices don't get nearly as banged up with a bag. 4.3" is great for when you really have to do something and don't have a desktop. Video's aren't as ridiculous when you are sharing them, and there is less moving scrolling around when viewing busy webpages.

What he says about the camera software, must be a lie. I counted, and on a fresh boot I get camera controls in about two seconds. With the app not loaded, I have a photo taken within 4 seconds of clicking the camera icon. I can promise you that I never accomplished that with my iPhone 3Gs. As such I missed many many photos of opportunity. Truly enraging that is. The EVO controls do indeed fail to orient in portrait, but it is unnecessary as the shooting button is in a good spot, and the photos do orient in portrait if you take them as such. Photos can be taken at all degrees and the end result will be right side up. But, as I suggest carrying a bag, I suggest carrying a dedicated camera as well. It takes even longer to get a camera out of its case, booted, and shooting so you will agree that a decent photo is better than no photo.

The exterior stuff is true. I don't like the back cover, and I too fear the eventual damage of the rear cover. I pray that there are replacements available, or my fears are incorrect. It makes me wary of taking the back off on a regular basis. The kickstand is fine, and his friend almost breaking it makes me question the reviewers ability to RTFM. The power button is pretty damned stupid though. I find I need two hands often to press the button because there is no natural way to press it with one hand. Adding the ZAGG has made it even harder to press.

The 2.1 lag is in Sense from what I can tell. Using the Launcher.apk as default I seem to have stopped the scroll lag.

2.2, and may an AOSP ROM will make this device deadly. He is correct that HTC overdid the UI a little bit. From a fresh boot it feels like you are using someone elses phone with so many widgets and icons already spaced.

At day's end, this is all subjective, and the first day two hours I used the EVO I almost reached for my iPhone. Luckily I had already factory reset it for resale and was forced to learn the EVO. For those of you not new to Android, this won't be an issue. If Steve Jobs hadn't gone of the deep end with all the rules, I would still be suggesting iPhone's to all my beloved Luddites, but to all who know better, I think Android is the way to go. 2.2 will see some solid improvements that will only further the divide between the iPhone and EVO in terms of ability to get **** done, which in the end is what we all need. I especially love not needing an "app for that".

It is still a good review. We need such things to keep us honest. To say that you will be kicking yourself for buying this, time will tell. But this is as it is with all gadgets. I usually err on the side of caution when it comes to buying new tech, so as to avoid first revision flaws. It is very likely that the next 4G phone will have a faster, more efficient WiMax radio. I am also hopeful for a firmware update that improves upon this.

 

[Saepak]

My take on this review is that he did have too many apps running and polling that yes things were lagging. But as everyone knows, you can't run hundreds of apps on any device at the same time and expect them to run right. I am so ready for Friday to be here so I can get my new phone. It will be awesome to have a real phone.

 

[DirkBelig]

What's odd about the "review" is that it is so full out outlier points that run counter to even the most negative reviews seen so far. Battery life is still a question mark for the most part, but the comments about lag and slow performance are just crazy, especially since there are tons of videos all over the Intartoobz showing the EVO whipping from screen to screen.

What's ironic is that it's written from a perspective of an old media, on-dead-tree, review in which the ignorant reader would have to take the writer's word for it since how else could he be proven wrong? (This is why Dan Rather sacrificed his entire career and credibility in a suicide smear attack against Dubya in 2004. He didn't realize the audience immediately was finding out he was lying and had seen visual proof of the smear.) How TechCrunch could post a "review" filled with laughable errors that likely readers would immediately spot as being well out of the norm from what they've seen already is a serious lapse. Even Gizmodo, who are pretty big Apple whores, were more complementary. Wired, OTOH, were pretty sloppy and biased.

The comments prove my point re: educated readers. Here's one guy: "I've read dozens upon dozens of reviews on the Evo ... from TRUSTED media sources to random users who managed to get their hands on an Evo ... and I've yet to see a review nearly as biased as this one. To be honest, the majority of the reviews have said that the Evo is BETTER than the iPhone in MOST aspects, save for the fact that Apple will always dominate because of their huge Apps advantage."

Another quotes the power comments from C|Net's, Engadget's, and PC Magazine's reviews; this guy kills it on the fact that Apple fanchimps are so used to being told what they can have by Lord Jobs, they freak out when confronted with alternatives: "Well this article supports my theory of iPhone fanboys. You can't handle choice. You're so used to having no options, to never thinking, to never using your brain that having to make a decision based on your preferences is difficult for you. You don't have someone dictating how you should do and use things.

You complain about widgets being too big yet you fail to mention how there are over a dozen clock widgets of various sizes(not that you even have to use one) and several weather widgets of varying sizes. You have choices...if you don't like something, change it. You not liking the default doesn't make it bad, everyone isn't you(or Steve Jobs) and Android lets *anyone* make a phone theirs.

Combined with Arrington's constant shens - when you've got mild-mannered Leo LaPorte swearing at you, you've really sailed past the line - TC is bound to suffer as those looking for UNBIASED tech coverage will move on. But that's the beauty of the Internet: if you find someone is lying to you, truth is just a click away. Look what happened to Gamespot after the Kane & Lynch payola review fiasco. Does anyone even take them seriously anymore?

 

[xSIN1134x]

That article is ridiculous, writer must have been paid by apple. #****** #misinformation. He should work for clear channel they'd love him.

 

[DirkBelig]

BTW, the topic on this thread is incorrect. It should read, "Check out this slobbering iPhone fanboy's review of the Evo, it's delusional!"

FTFYT.

 

[thekarens]

Rebuttal. As a former iPhone evangelist I think I understand, if don't agree with all of it.

The 3G is truly amazing, and since it's more complete, it is tempting to ignore the 4G. I am in a 4G market, and I like it for the most part. I get 150ms pings and speeds of 1-3Mbps. I get 1mbps symmetrical on 3G so you can see how, unless you are downloading or sharing with friends there isn't much incentive to use 4G. Higher frequency means it likely has to work harder to transmit/recieve.

I have chargers and outlets in every room/vehicle so I can't speak to battery life. I would guess its around 6 hours depending on screen brightness. He is correct in saying that the "Android System" which I suspect is all the network enabled HTC components. I have killed twitter, FB, news, etc since I don't see a need for anything to poll so often. The iPhone is a feat in battery life, achieved through strict control of every aspect of the device, but this comes at a cost. So if we were comparing features, I would say battery life iPhone vs EVO is a wash. You can always buy a spare battery, and still be under the cost of an iPhone.

I can't speak much to idea of a screen being too big. Then again, I took to carrying a messenger bag when I got the first Kindle. I find that it makes my life easier all over. My pants are more comfortable without so many things in my pockets poking me. I also find that my devices don't get nearly as banged up with a bag. 4.3" is great for when you really have to do something and don't have a desktop. Video's aren't as ridiculous when you are sharing them, and there is less moving scrolling around when viewing busy webpages.

What he says about the camera software, must be a lie. I counted, and on a fresh boot I get camera controls in about two seconds. With the app not loaded, I have a photo taken within 4 seconds of clicking the camera icon. I can promise you that I never accomplished that with my iPhone 3Gs. As such I missed many many photos of opportunity. Truly enraging that is. The EVO controls do indeed fail to orient in portrait, but it is unnecessary as the shooting button is in a good spot, and the photos do orient in portrait if you take them as such. Photos can be taken at all degrees and the end result will be right side up. But, as I suggest carrying a bag, I suggest carrying a dedicated camera as well. It takes even longer to get a camera out of its case, booted, and shooting so you will agree that a decent photo is better than no photo.

The exterior stuff is true. I don't like the back cover, and I too fear the eventual damage of the rear cover. I pray that there are replacements available, or my fears are incorrect. It makes me wary of taking the back off on a regular basis. The kickstand is fine, and his friend almost breaking it makes me question the reviewers ability to RTFM. The power button is pretty damned stupid though. I find I need two hands often to press the button because there is no natural way to press it with one hand. Adding the ZAGG has made it even harder to press.

The 2.1 lag is in Sense from what I can tell. Using the Launcher.apk as default I seem to have stopped the scroll lag.

2.2, and may an AOSP ROM will make this device deadly. He is correct that HTC overdid the UI a little bit. From a fresh boot it feels like you are using someone elses phone with so many widgets and icons already spaced.

At day's end, this is all subjective, and the first day two hours I used the EVO I almost reached for my iPhone. Luckily I had already factory reset it for resale and was forced to learn the EVO. For those of you not new to Android, this won't be an issue. If Steve Jobs hadn't gone of the deep end with all the rules, I would still be suggesting iPhone's to all my beloved Luddites, but to all who know better, I think Android is the way to go. 2.2 will see some solid improvements that will only further the divide between the iPhone and EVO in terms of ability to get **** done, which in the end is what we all need. I especially love not needing an "app for that".

It is still a good review. We need such things to keep us honest. To say that you will be kicking yourself for buying this, time will tell. But this is as it is with all gadgets. I usually err on the side of caution when it comes to buying new tech, so as to avoid first revision flaws. It is very likely that the next 4G phone will have a faster, more efficient WiMax radio. I am also hopeful for a firmware update that improves upon this.

I appreciate this response. I'm realistic enough to know no phone is perfect and I'll never say the Evo is. But the Tech Crunch guy wasn't like your response. It was clearly slanted to "I love the iphone and everything else, esp. the Evo sucks."

 

[MannyZ28]

What I find interesting that he prefers the Incredible and the Nexus One over the Evo! Just the other day I was thinking to myself.....you have the option of paying more for your plan, getting a smaller phone with slightly inferior specs (no 720p recording, no front facing camera, smaller screen) for the same 199 dollars that will buy you an Evo, a phone with a larger screen (assuming that you're like me and find larger to be better) and all the other just mentioned features that the Incredible and Nexus One are missing, and the plan is cheaper, and on top of that, if you're in a 4G area, you get that too! So, why, I wondered, would anyone go with the other two Android options (or the Crapple Fruit phone running on a network that has a hard time supporting their one and only flagship device) when you get more, and have to pay less?

That dude has issues. He whined about the trackball on the N1, didn't mention the optical track pad on the Incredible, but yet wouldn't trade either of those inferiorly specced phones for the Evo? And for some reason, so it seems, the N1 and Incredible had no lag issues and only the Evo, running identical hardware, does?

Oh well, what do you expect from someone who has a friend that thinks the kickstand is a way to access the battery! Wow!

 

[forrest09]

wuddadouche

My take on this review is that he did have too many apps running and polling that yes things were lagging. But as everyone knows, you can't run hundreds of apps on any device at the same time and expect them to run right. I am so ready for Friday to be here so I can get my new phone. It will be awesome to have a real phone.

im willing to bet ten dollars the guy who likes half eaten fruit didnt know that us android users have apps too and one in particular kills all them thar apps he had uh runnin causin that laggy stuff...i know i know us EVO pre buyers are just living under rocks wanting a device thats just so danged slow. uhhyuck... what a ******... dude the names EVO and its the Evolution baby!!! hahahaha whatd your half eaten apple come from???? hint= steve

 

[antianalog]

He seemed to experience a ton of lag on the device and his battery died with his "moderate usage" at 4 hours. His read-out showed that the system was using up 70-whatever-percent of the battery? I want to know how many processes that guy had running, because it has to be record-worthy.

of course he had a lot of things running. that's a new experience for him

 

[Setite]

This article showcases a key problem. Just like windows and linux and OS X all have different customers, so do the major phone types. Symbian vs Android vs Apple. The choice must be made between what you want. As I understand it Symbian is best for all the business enterprise level services. Android is the best for "prosumers", as it has the business services, and will have more soon. Android also us beginning to rival Android in app support. Apple has an "app for that" and Android "might have an app for that". It takes away the gatekeeper for apps, even allows apps to be installed from elsewhere. This is why apps can drain the battery. Anyone remember the 90s and Windows? Every app I installed hooked itself to my desktop, windows startup, etc and they were hard as **** to uninstall. I suspect people will start reviewing apps from over-zealous Devs, and we will see the less efficient apps die. Maybe Google will wisen up and take a page out of Apple's book and improve it. An Android Seal of Approval that vertifies an app as stable and meets a threshold of efficiency and or options to choose from. Lastly iPhone is for people who want a carefully crafted experience with only the features allowed by their "betters". Apple is much like a monarchy of times past, like Henry VIII. They tell you what to say, what to think, who your God is, etc.

What bothers me is that this review will cause many on the fence to stick with the iPhone. Give me freedom, or give me death. There is something to be learned from this review. If nothing else comes from it, perhaps a person in power at Google will gain inspiration that helps in the War Against Apple.

 

[Yourdogsdead]

One large question that comes out of this article is "Should review be neutral"? I mean, he obviously loves the Iphone and even states so in the title. So should a person who is truly interested in the Evo take his review seriously when he has an obvious bias? He makes some good points but then fails to mention some of the positive aspects of the phone. If he was a truly neutral reviewer then he would have outlined the positives and the negatives of the phone. He always seemed to be saying something in the Evo is good but then the Iphone does it better. He is always comparing it to the Iphone and usually the Iphone is winning.

So the question remains, should reviews such as this be biased?

 

[Kedar]

One large question that comes out of this article is "Should review be neutral"? I mean, he obviously loves the Iphone and even states so in the title. So should a person who is truly interested in the Evo take his review seriously when he has an obvious bias? He makes some good points but then fails to mention some of the positive aspects of the phone. If he was a truly neutral reviewer then he would have outlined the positives and the negatives of the phone. He always seemed to be saying something in the Evo is good but then the Iphone does it better. He is always comparing it to the Iphone and usually the Iphone is winning.

So the question remains, should reviews such as this be biased?

The way I see it... It's not biased. It's unfair.


I like how he says there's hardly any 4G, and how 4G speeds are not much faster.
Well, AT&T doesn't have much 3G coverage. And atleast you get to choose between 4G and 3G.

 

[RedWings]

This is the guy's website who wrote that 'review'

parislemon — About

And this explains the entire review:

I currently live in San Francisco with my four Macs and five iPods.

 

[Yourdogsdead]

This is the guy's website who wrote that 'review'

parislemon — About

And this explains the entire review:

In all honesty, the guy sounds like a tool. He needs to accentuate how he has so many apple products and seems to be bragging about it. Then he makes this BS Biased review about how Android phones are decent but nowhere near the Iphone. I dislike fanboys (Even Android ones) and this is exactly the reason why. The Iphone is a good phone, but so is the Evo!!

 

[NVNJ]

He said something about the evo being slow and that it takes a minute for the camera to start. Uh, so far people have been talking about how fast it is! That guy has some balls writing all this stuff.

Agreed. Apple Fanboy at their best.

 

[qst4]

lol, "Also, I am terrible important". Really! Thanks Redwings for the link.

 

[wallie223]

Really wow after reading this its almost like why would he waste his time even using the phone if it was that bad lol and he almost broke a nail trying to get the back of the phone off im sure he would seeing how the iphone back cant be removed so he would almost break it this guy is a joke and im sure this one review will not stop anyone from getting this bad @$$ phone on june 4th i know i will be up before the sun comes out to get mine lmao

 

[Jordus]

wow nice find on his personal page, what a ****tard.

Where is Anonymous when you need them?