Could a phone w/ removable battery have wireless charging/IP68?

[Android Central Question]

I just read an article about how the EU is pushing phone companies to move back to phones with removable batteries. While not in Europe, this could affect phones in the US. So I was wondering:
1) Is it possible to have a phone with a removable battery to have wireless charging out-of-the box (ie, you don't have to buy a special back for the phone to get it)?
2) Is it possible to have a phone with a removable battery to have IP68 water resistant

I'm not asking about currently existing phones-- rather, I'm asking if these things are possible if the EU passes it and removable battery does become the standard.

 

[Mooncatt]

1) Yes

2) Also yes

But heck, I'd trade wireless charging (don't use it anyway) and water resistance (a sales gimmick) for a removable battery any day.

 

[L0n3N1nja]

1) Yes

2) Also yes

But heck, I'd trade wireless charging (don't use it anyway) and water resistance (a sales gimmick) for a removable battery any day.

Not sure why you'd call water resistance a sales gimmick. People used to ruin their phones simply by getting water splashed on them. Now they can be safely submerged without fear.

 

[Mooncatt]

Not sure why you'd call water resistance a sales gimmick. People used to ruin their phones simply by getting water splashed on them. Now they can be safely submerged without fear.

I've had water splashed on multiple non-rated phones with no ill effects. It may offer some protection, but it gives users a false sense of security. When manufacturers start warranting for water damage (which I'm not aware of any that do), then I'll consider water resistance beneficial. Until then, I treat my phones as if they are not protected, even if they are rated.

 

[Ry]

I just read an article about how the EU is pushing phone companies to move back to phones with removable batteries. While not in Europe, this could affect phones in the US. So I was wondering:
1) Is it possible to have a phone with a removable battery to have wireless charging out-of-the box (ie, you don't have to buy a special back for the phone to get it)?
2) Is it possible to have a phone with a removable battery to have IP68 water resistant

I'm not asking about currently existing phones-- rather, I'm asking if these things are possible if the EU passes it and removable battery does become the standard.

Yes.

Yes.

 

[Ry]

Not sure why you'd call water resistance a sales gimmick. People used to ruin their phones simply by getting water splashed on them. Now they can be safely submerged without fear.

Water resistance isn't water-proof. And water damage isn't covered so if something goes wrong after just a "splash", that rating means nothing for the user...

 

[Mike Dee]

I've had water splashed on multiple non-rated phones with no ill effects. It may offer some protection, but it gives users a false sense of security. When manufacturers start warranting for water damage (which I'm not aware of any that do), then I'll consider water resistance beneficial. Until then, I treat my phones as if they are not protected, even if they are rated.

Only covered if you but the damage warranty which can get expensive once you add up fees and deductibles

 

[Mooncatt]

Only covered if you but the damage warranty which can get expensive once you add up fees and deductibles

That is not a manufacture warranty, which is what I was referring to. Paying extra to a third party insurance company doesn't make the device more protected. It just helps cover replacement costs if it does grey damaged. A manufacturer warranty against water damage means they have tested it and are reasonably sure that the protection will remain intact with average use, and even slightly rough abuse.

 

[Mike Dee]

That is not a manufacture warranty, which is what I was referring to. Paying extra to a third party insurance company doesn't make the device more protected. It just helps cover replacement costs if it does grey damaged. A manufacturer warranty against water damage means they have tested it and are reasonably sure that the protection will remain intact with average use, and even slightly rough abuse.

I never made any claims that you are stating. I'm allowed to interject that you're only covered by paying extra. There is nothing wrong with my statement.

 

[mustang7757]

'll leave a Link to register so you can communicate here as a guest account you can only post questions but can't reply.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=409154

 

[mustang7757]

OP if you go back to Samsung s5 you'll see the removable back that could have wireless charging plus IP rated , but it's a outdated phone

 

[Mooncatt]

I never made any claims that you are stating. I'm allowed to interject that you're only covered by paying extra. There is nothing wrong with my statement.

Then I guess you misunderstood what I was getting at. I specifically stated it should be a manufacturer warranty in my earlier post. I know you can get third party coverages, but that wasn't my point.

 

[mustang7757]

I rather have a device that's certified IP rating then one without it , better chance in surviving accidental water damage even if it's not covered under warranty

I can say from experience , my note 3 without IP rating went into tub full of water and was damaged , my other Samsung phones with IP rating survived same tub .. kids

 

[L0n3N1nja]

I rather have a device that's certified IP rating then one without it , better chance in surviving accidental water damage even if it's not covered under warranty

I can say from experience , my note 3 without IP rating went into tub full of water and was damaged , my other Samsung phones with IP rating survived same tub .. kids

^This.

When I worked Verizon I was replacing phones weekly due to water damage and when we did repairs water damage was almost as common as a cracked display. Simply dropping it in the sink/ tub/ or pet's water dish destroyed them. Slip outside in winter and phone lands in snow, case saved it from impact but it got wet. Caught outside in the rain? Phone in your pocket but still ruined. Phones may not be water proof but the number of water damaged phones began to plummet once they became resistant because they usually survive.

Personally I use my phones in the shower, before water resistance just being in the room with the steam from a hot shower could damage a phone. My S7 has taken photo and video under water in both a stream and lake.

I won't own a phone without water resistance, it's one of the most valuable features on modern phones in my eyes.

 

[mustang7757]

^This.

When I worked Verizon I was replacing phones weekly due to water damage and when we did repairs water damage was almost as common as a cracked display. Simply dropping it in the sink/ tub/ or pet's water dish destroyed them. Slip outside in winter and phone lands in snow, case saved it from impact but it got wet. Caught outside in the rain? Phone in your pocket but still ruined. Phones may not be water proof but the number of water damaged phones began to plummet once they became resistant because they usually survive.

Personally I use my phones in the shower, before water resistance just being in the room with the steam from a hot shower could damage a phone. My S7 has taken photo and video under water in both a stream and lake.

I won't own a phone without water resistance, it's one of the most valuable features on modern phones in my eyes.

I agree.

 

[Mooncatt]

To each their own. My current phone is water resistant, but I still treat it as not. If anything, it's hurt my experience. The film over the speakers muffle the sound, making it a net loss in terms of functionality.

 

[Mike Dee]

Then I guess you misunderstood what I was getting at. I specifically stated it should be a manufacturer warranty in my earlier post. I know you can get third party coverages, but that wasn't my point.

I didn't misunderstand anything. I posted for the benefit of others..... not necessarily for you. The forum is an open exchange of ideas.

 

[Mike Dee]

^This.

When I worked Verizon I was replacing phones weekly due to water damage and when we did repairs water damage was almost as common as a cracked display. Simply dropping it in the sink/ tub/ or pet's water dish destroyed them. Slip outside in winter and phone lands in snow, case saved it from impact but it got wet. Caught outside in the rain? Phone in your pocket but still ruined. Phones may not be water proof but the number of water damaged phones began to plummet once they became resistant because they usually survive.

Personally I use my phones in the shower, before water resistance just being in the room with the steam from a hot shower could damage a phone. My S7 has taken photo and video under water in both a stream and lake.

I won't own a phone without water resistance, it's one of the most valuable features on modern phones in my eyes.

It's valuable no doubt, but I only want it for accidental exposure. I'm not suggesting your way is bad, it's just not my thing. Regardless of our preferences water resistance is not a bad thing.

 

[methodman89]

OP if you go back to Samsung s5 you'll see the removable back that could have wireless charging plus IP rated , but it's a outdated phone

I bought and used the wireless charging conversion on this phone when it was new. Liked it a lot and stuck with wireless charging since.

 

[mustang7757]

I bought and used the wireless charging conversion on this phone when it was new. Liked it a lot and stuck with wireless charging since.

Yeah was great phone at the time just kept replacing the charger flap door hinge would break