Dev version Verizon SGS III coming soon

[BigCTM]

Makes me glad I do not have the need to root... I have done it before and it caused more issues than it was worth.

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[s14tat]

Makes me glad I do not have the need to root... I have done it before and it caused more issues than it was worth.

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Well some phones work so well from the factory that it doesn't need a custom rom. However if your the type that wants to keep your phone as long as you can, then I would root. Its amazing that my almost 2 year old Fascinate is running more up to date software than most of Verizon's top of the line offering.

I will pick up a GS3, but I just need to see which version gets more developer support and if the roms are interchangable between the two versions. I'm almost positive my Fascinate would eventually get a Jelly Bean port as well which will make my even older phone by that time to have more up to date software than all of verizon's phones except the nexus.

 

[atlharry]

Yeah, HTC signs their bootloaders. But you can unlock them. The HTC Incredible 4G LTE (say that 5 times fast) is unlockable at htcdev.com. It takes 5 minutes. It took 5 minutes to unlock my Rezound. Yeah, the HOX would have had a signed bootloader, but it would have been unlockable. Just like every other recent HTC phone on Verizon (Inc4G, Rezound, Rhyme). Samsung screwed this one up pretty badly. If tiny HTC can hold out against Verizon and offer unlockable bootloaders, why can't behemoth Samsung?

I'm fine buying the dev model out of pocket if Verizon knocks 20% off my bill every month for using unsubsidized equipment. Think that'll happen?

Isn't the AT&T HOX a signed bootloader with no htcdev support? There's an exploit, but no official way to do it. Basically, you just make it look like a non-AT&T version.

I'm just saying that the carriers have so much power over the manufacturers that unless it's a nexus, you can't bank on being able to ROM your phone's.

I've always had faith in the dev community, but waiting for those more talented than me was always such a long wait!

Getting it out of the box with the nexus was refreshing. Ironically, even with just ICS, I went back to complete stock and have been happy. Although, with Verizon's JB in AOSP now, it looks like that'll change yet again. Android love.

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[TripSixes]

Snork -Thanks for pointing out that the phone from Samsung would be off-contract.

But, I'm still confused about how that would work, given the current contract I just signed.. ?

I have now upgraded from Fascinate to GS3, and signed a new 2-year contract because of it.
I did this before June 28th, thus, I have unlimited data for this line.
If I just put this phone up on ebay to sell, then I'm still in my contract with VzW? correct? (I get $500-600 out of the deal).
I already have $170 paid to Verizon for the honor of pre-order GS3., thus, my net return is $330-430 in my pocket.
I then re-activate my Fascinate (back to 3G only plan)... not sure what VzW would do about my contract then.. no more unlimited data because i'm making plan change after 6/28?.. Does my account return to the state it was in before? (ready for upgrade, etc)

I then wait for developer model to be released.

Once it is released, Samsung asks me to pay them $600. I use $400 from the ebay sell, and $200+tax/shipping of my own money to obtain the device.

(I've now invested $170 + $250 of my own money on this device..) == approx $420.

I then call up verizon to change plan back to 4G .. tell them i have my own device, and that it does not need to be on contract... I get unlimited data, etc.


In the end, I don't see how this is a good deal for me. ...

 

[nedqadams]

Snork -Thanks for pointing out that the phone from Samsung would be off-contract.

But, I'm still confused about how that would work, given the current contract I just signed.. ?

I have now upgraded from Fascinate to GS3, and signed a new 2-year contract because of it.
I did this before June 28th, thus, I have unlimited data for this line.
If I just put this phone up on ebay to sell, then I'm still in my contract with VzW? correct? (I get $500-600 out of the deal).
I already have $170 paid to Verizon for the honor of pre-order GS3., thus, my net return is $330-430 in my pocket.
I then re-activate my Fascinate (back to 3G only plan)... not sure what VzW would do about my contract then.. no more unlimited data because i'm making plan change after 6/28?.. Does my account return to the state it was in before? (ready for upgrade, etc)

I then wait for developer model to be released.

Once it is released, Samsung asks me to pay them $600. I use $400 from the ebay sell, and $200+tax/shipping of my own money to obtain the device.

(I've now invested $170 + $250 of my own money on this device..) == approx $420.

I then call up verizon to change plan back to 4G .. tell them i have my own device, and that it does not need to be on contract... I get unlimited data, etc.


In the end, I don't see how this is a good deal for me. ...

I would wait till it's released, buy the new phone and then sell the old one on ebay. The $200 you paid to Verizon is a wash because that's for the subsidized price. You might end up losing 50-75 on the deal but that should be about it.
Once you sell the old phone, fire up the new one and you wont have to touch your contract.

 

[MazoMark]

Verizon and Samsung doing stuff the right way here. Bravo!

OK. Who the hell are you and what have you done with Jerry?

 

[BigCTM]

I agree if you plan on keeping for a long period. I usually just sell mine and buy at full price or Craigslist every year or so. I actually had a Fascinate for awhile and was using custom roms. Then I got the rezound and now the S3.

Well some phones work so well from the factory that it doesn't need a custom rom. However if your the type that wants to keep your phone as long as you can, then I would root. Its amazing that my almost 2 year old Fascinate is running more up to date software than most of Verizon's top of the line offering.

I will pick up a GS3, but I just need to see which version gets more developer support and if the roms are interchangable between the two versions. I'm almost positive my Fascinate would eventually get a Jelly Bean port as well which will make my even older phone by that time to have more up to date software than all of verizon's phones except the nexus.

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[Crispy]

Verizon and Samsung doing stuff the right way here. Bravo!

This is great news but I really wouldn't praise Verizon for this. I bet Samsung had to fight really hard for this, its the first time VZW has allowed anything like this. VZW did their best to reduce the functionality of the phone as much as possible (the Wifi notification, locked bootloaders, removing options, Dropbox).

Samsung is trying to make it right with the dev community. I just wish they'd refused to lock the bootloader, there's no way VZW would've refused to carry such a popular phone, and they would have caved in.

This is just going to fracture development even more.

 

[hokiesteve]

Easy sell subsidized phone, use money to buy unlocked phone. Verizon is giving us an option for a change.

We all know Verizon is not cheap. If you want cheap, get a nexus and a T-Mobile $30 a month data plan.

I would rather kill a man than a snake, it not that I like snakes or hate man, it is more of a sense of proportion.

Except you take a hit selling it and buying the unlocked version. You certainly wouldn't get $600 for the locked version. I'm fine with paying Verizon prices for the coverage and reliability. However, I'd like a break from my monthly cost if I don't take a device subsidy and 2 year contract. Let's actualy make the pricing transparent. There's little pressure on phone prices when the carriers hide the actual cost from the consumers.

 

[ultravisitor]

Then once the developer version is out the nerds will be all ober it and we can unlock our phones for good.

Yeah, tell that to all the people who have RAZRs and who thought the RAZR developer edition would help them unlock the bootloader for that phone.

 

[anon(19758)]

Yeah, tell that to all the people who have RAZRs and who thought the RAZR developer edition would help them unlock the bootloader for that phone.

Hahaha the dev razr actually came out? I honestly had no idea.

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[ultravisitor]

I don't know that it's necessarily a dev edition, but there is an unlocked GSM version of the phone. People thought it might help with the locked bootloader. It didn't.

 

[SoDev]

Damn.... Got my phone last night and I don't even want to open it. What a joke Verizon. Might need to return it. 2 days to decide if I want my damn activation fee back.