Did anyone think it was going to be this bad?

[TraderGary]

That doesn't really apply because the Network Vision upgrades include LTE rollouts and 3G improvements. So the 3G that he's using is not the same as the 3G that you're using.

You have it right. I was not happy before Network Vision. I'm more than happy after Network Vision. I have high speed internet wherever I go and 4G LTE is almost always faster than WiFi. It just doesn't get any better than this.

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[ballr4lyf]

Here's something to consider:

Currently, Sprint's stable of available LTE phones numbers what? Two or 3 devices currently available? Of their subscriber base, probably around 5% have these phones (just a guesstimate). Cutting straight to the chase here, if you take into account Sprint's history of network problems and really slow data speeds, do you think their new network will be able to sustain the awesome LTE speeds when their customer base finally becomes saturated with LTE phones?

 

[TraderGary]

Here's something to consider:

Currently, Sprint's stable of available LTE phones numbers what? Two or 3 devices currently available? Of their subscriber base, probably around 5% have these phones (just a guesstimate). Cutting straight to the chase here, if you take into account Sprint's history of network problems and really slow data speeds, do you think their new network will be able to sustain the awesome LTE speeds when their customer base finally becomes saturated with LTE phones?

Isn't Sprint using in their towers equipment designed by the same manufacturers as the other carriers? Doesn't Network Vision upgrade 3G as well as add 4G LTE? Isn't Sprint using phones made by the same manufacturers as the other carriers?

Since the other carriers have a headstart with LTE, by your reasoning, wouldn't they then become more saturated sooner than Sprint? Does LTE somehow work differently for Sprint than for everyone else?

Perhaps since all the carriers are using tower electronics from the same manufacturers this has all been designed to work better than the electronics and designs of the past.

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[bearballz72]

Here's something to consider:

Currently, Sprint's stable of available LTE phones numbers what? Two or 3 devices currently available? Of their subscriber base, probably around 5% have these phones (just a guesstimate). Cutting straight to the chase here, if you take into account Sprint's history of network problems and really slow data speeds, do you think their new network will be able to sustain the awesome LTE speeds when their customer base finally becomes saturated with LTE phones?

That's what I'm concerned about. Hopefully when NV is complete we'll all be able to enjoy some terrific speeds.

But once other people start jumping over to Sprint or current subscribers upgrade to LTE capable phones, can Sprint sustain the network speeds? Especially in highly populated, dense areas like NYC, Chicago, L.A. etc.

 

[TraderGary]

That's what I'm concerned about. Hopefully when NV is complete we'll all be able to enjoy some terrific speeds.

But once other people start jumping over to Sprint or current subscribers upgrade to LTE capable phones, can Sprint sustain the network speeds? Especially in highly populated, dense areas like NYC, Chicago, L.A. etc.

It would certainly make it interesting if Sprint were to gain more subscribers and actually become larger than the other carriers!

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[ballr4lyf]

Isn't Sprint using in their towers equipment designed by the same manufacturers as the other carriers? Doesn't Network Vision upgrade 3G as well as add 4G LTE? Isn't Sprint using phones made by the same manufacturers as the other carriers?

Since the other carriers have a headstart with LTE, by your reasoning, wouldn't they then become more saturated sooner than Sprint? Does LTE somehow work differently for Sprint than for everyone else?

Perhaps since all the carriers are using tower electronics from the same manufacturers this has all been designed to work better than the electronics and designs of the past.

HTC EVO 4G LTE

Other carriers don't have a history like Sprint's.

 

[Hurleygm]

Your missing the point. It's the newer 4g LTE phones that are having the problem! My wifes Epic is having no problems! My Galaxy Nexus is not having dropped calls, but network is really spotty, since the 15th getting VERY spotty 4g lte, more around the Woodstock area, then when I get closer to the city, Actually got it in Acworth yesterday, that when I tested it, it said it was from Nashville! But since I got my phone in May the 3g has been VERY slow and no network alot! They are selling phones that really aren't working well with there old system, and there new system seems like it's still a long way out, even for it's target cities. So what they have right now is people are buying the most expensive phones from them, and getting subpar service with the promise of better service soon, but not as soon as they are making it sound!

I've had a 4G LTE since pre order and have probably had only two or three dropped calls. Data is slow but not unbearable. The phone is amazing and the network is slowly catching up.

Wait or leave. This is why they give you 14-30 days to try it out.

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[Hurleygm]

That's what I'm concerned about. Hopefully when NV is complete we'll all be able to enjoy some terrific speeds.

But once other people start jumping over to Sprint or current subscribers upgrade to LTE capable phones, can Sprint sustain the network speeds? Especially in highly populated, dense areas like NYC, Chicago, L.A. etc.

I really don't think sprint will make the same mistake twice, or three times, depending on how you look at it. This will be the upgrade to end all upgrades. The new towers will be more compact and easier to upgrade in the future.

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[jerrykur]

Other carriers don't have a history like Sprint's.

At&t has had terrible issues and now only capped anf tiered data plans. I am glad I left.

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[antheauxny]

Idk why people thought it would happen over night.
Their completely re-doing everything.
Of course it gonna take a while & their 3G has always been not so good in some areas (of where I live) but its not horrendous.

So yes, I knew it would be "this bad." I wasn't expecting any LTE in my area for at least another year but Sprint informed me it would go live by the end of the year here in Killeen ^_^


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[Colonel Kernel]

I'm suddenly having issues in Boston. Data roaming while I'm on Wi-Fi is a non-issue, but having to tap through an extra alert to make or answer a call is annoying. Data also seems slower all of a sudden when it's been fast enough for 5 years plus.

I'm hoping it means they've started their work in the Boston area, but, of course, nothing's been announced.

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[Murphy5111]

I'm suddenly having issues in Boston. Data roaming while I'm on Wi-Fi is a non-issue, but having to tap through an extra alert to make or answer a call is annoying. Data also seems slower all of a sudden when it's been fast enough for 5 years plus.

I'm hoping it means they've started their work in the Boston area, but, of course, nothing's been announced.

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There were dozens of places that I couldn't get a signal. Every time I called I was told that upgrades were made and everything should be fine. On a main street in Hanover outdoors in couldn't even get a Web Page to draw for 2 minutes. I just went back to Verizon and get 4 bars of LTE in that exact location. It's pretty bad. I tried to hold out for one more year because of my contract but just couldn't.

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[Biscuit1001011]

I have solid phone service and fast 4G LTE literally anywhere in town. Quite frankly I didn't expect it to be this good! I'm in Loganville, some 20 miles outside of Atlanta. Here's an LTE speed test while at dinner last night.

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Holy cow! I officially have LTE envy

 

[Murphy5111]

Holy cow! I officially have LTE envy

I just envied all the people that could use their phones when I couldn't. I would have been okay with even a low 3g signalm

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[bearballz72]

Idk why people thought it would happen over night.
Their completely re-doing everything.
Of course it gonna take a while & their 3G has always been not so good in some areas (of where I live) but its not horrendous.

So yes, I knew it would be "this bad." I wasn't expecting any LTE in my area for at least another year but Sprint informed me it would go live by the end of the year here in Killeen ^_^


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Well I don't think anybody was assuming that Sprint would be able to do this overnight or snap their fingers and LTE would magically appear and every Sprint customer would be rejoicing in the streets. It's a long expensive process and there are problems, something Sprint really didn't make transparant when they started this network upgrade.

My issues are the fact that it may take you two or three times to get a hold of someone, without having the call drop, or have someone call or text you and you wouldn't get it until an hour later. What if you or someone you know had a medical emergency, or you use your phone for business and can't have a conversation with a client? Or simple things like calling somebody to know your running late?

Like I said in my opening post, not everyone is affected by this NV/LTE upgrade. Some people also have LTE already and are enjoying it which is great! But it seems a lot of people are having issues.

I never saw that it would sometimes take 2-3 phone calls to get a hold of someone without having the call drop.Yes the data speeds would stink for a while, but not being able to make a basic phone call without having issues is unacceptable.

 

[Murphy5111]

Isn't Sprint using in their towers equipment designed by the same manufacturers as the other carriers? Doesn't Network Vision upgrade 3G as well as add 4G LTE? Isn't Sprint using phones made by the same manufacturers as the other carriers?

Since the other carriers have a headstart with LTE, by your reasoning, wouldn't they then become more saturated sooner than Sprint? Does LTE somehow work differently for Sprint than for everyone else?

Perhaps since all the carriers are using tower electronics from the same manufacturers this has all been designed to work better than the electronics and designs of the past.

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Yes LTE for sprint will work different than everyone else. Sprint has always had the garbage frequencies left over that don't penetrate buildings. Even with LTE if you're a couple feet inside a brick/concrete building you will be lucky to be able to use your data. Even their LTE frequencies are junk along with their 3G

 

[TropicalSammich]

Yes LTE for sprint will work different than everyone else. Sprint has always had the garbage frequencies left over that don't penetrate buildings. Even with LTE if you're a couple feet inside a brick/concrete building you will be lucky to be able to use your data. Even their LTE frequencies are junk along with their 3G

This will be fixed when they move LTE from 1900 to 800 that IDEN has been using.

Verizon and AT&T are on 700, this is why their in building penetration is superior.

Once IDEN units are cleared off 800 spectrum, LTE will be easily migrated over, and Sprint will have competitive in building coverage.

Come back to this topic later 2013, early 2014 when the magic begins.

Too early to compare all this now, it's not overnight progress.



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[Murphy5111]

This will be fixed when they move LTE from 1900 to 800 that IDEN has been using.

Verizon and AT&T are on 700, this is why their in building penetration is superior.

Once IDEN units are cleared off 800 spectrum, LTE will be easily migrated over, and Sprint will have competitive in building coverage.

Come back to this topic later 2013, early 2014 when the magic begins.

Too early to compare all this now, it's not overnight progress.



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I thought only voice was migrating over to the old iden network. Data too?

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[Topgonzo]

Here's the deal. People who live in a area that is not scheduled to get lte this year and opt to get a lte device should know that they aren't going to be able to use the benefits of it yet. I live in the Kansas City area and lte is amazing. So far speeds are great and battery life is good. Overall performance is amazing. If I did not live in this area I would of kept my og evo until lte launched and used wimax. I never understood why someone would buy a lte device knowing its not available yet then complain about performance of the device.

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[Topgonzo]

Don't have a history like sprint? Ok what history? Who and what was the very first 4G phone and provider? The only history is sprint partnered with clear wire to launch wimax as the first 4G service and that was a bad choice but their vision was for what was the futute.
They are now borrowing and investing 2.2 billion dollars to buy new equipment and install lte which will be the same if not better equipment than the competitions. They definately will be counting on heavy subscribers and with a investment like this will have to be looking long term usage and stability. Customers and society don't want to wait for anything especially when paying for something now. The thing to remember is when you signed the contract you either accepted wimax or 3g speeds and service at the time of the agreement for a 2 year length. The time from announcing that wimax will be no more is time enough for those customers to leave sprint at the end of current contracts so they don't have to get new phones or keep service. The unlimited data which I'm sure after the future of network vision is completed will stay the same and sprint will again be able to make leaps ahead of the competition.

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