do you have to root to have a rooted phone?

[gunnermike53]

i know it sounds like a stupid question, but hear me out. most of you know about the concectivity issues with the all in one stock restore. so i have been flashing back to stock and then doing a restore, back to stock, restore. well, notice how i didnt mention rooting again. so, lets say i just got this new phone, and i want to root and then install a custom rom. i havent entered any data and i havent installed apps. basicly i dont care about loosing data. could i flash cwm through odin, boot into recovery, flash dj05 modem and say superdark rom. when i reboot my phone it should be rooted. i did not root and i flashed a restore and im back to my rooted phone. had to reflash the modem but thats unrelated to the root. what do you think?

 

[Sta11i0n]

Many ROMS have root and busybox included in them. Thus, flashing one without actually going through a root process, would still yield root access after the install.

 

[gunnermike53]

Many ROMS have root and busybox included in them. Thus, flashing one without actually going through a root process, would still yield root access after the install.

thats what i thought. its deff something to remember if you ever have to do a warrenty replacement. could also save some a lot of time.

 

[sjenkins1009]

The only problem with this that I know of is CWM needs root to work. It requires SU privlages before rebooting...

 

[gunnermike53]

The only problem with this that I know of is CWM needs root to work. It requires SU privlages before rebooting...

not if you boot into recovery.

 

[sjenkins1009]

not if you boot into recovery.

Boot into recovery, update.zip and then apply the Flash? Interesting Idea and did not think about it before. Cool....wish I knew that 20 flashes ago....

 

[legendary1022]

It depends on the phone. I know for certain that you couldn't just flash a ROM without what we call S-off because the system would overwrite any writing you did to the system and re-flash the stock ROM on the G2/Desire Z. HTC and T-Mobile both lied about it being a "feature" but in reality in was more of a bug. Some phones have ways to undoing root if you happen to need to go back to completely stock experience.

Sent from my HTC Vision

 

[gunnermike53]

Boot into recovery, update.zip and then apply the Flash? Interesting Idea and did not think about it before. Cool....wish I knew that 20 flashes ago....

lol. me too. just figured it out when i went back to stock. i had to reflash cwm with odin, then all i had to do is a restore. i cant speak for other phones as this is my first android.