There is no doubt about it, you are NOT getting a subsidized phone on Edge. As far as Verizon is concerned, that is doing it right for them since they are getting you to pay $420 more for your phone than if you used your upgrade.
Do you think I should have waited?
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My point was that even Verizon is calling the non-subsidized phone an upgrade, stating that customers are eligible for "upgrades" after 6 months and 50% payoff of the phone on the Edge plan. I think many consider upgrades any kind of purchase at less than the full price of the phone up front, whether it is purchase through subsidies or installments and whether or not they are required to trade in their current phone.
It is a silly point. The term "upgrade", as I explained before, has come to have a specific meaning in the context of U.S. cell phone carriers - the on contract price (which is subsidized significantly by the carrier compared to the off contract full retail price). Verizon is trying to dupe people into believing the Edge program is a good deal by using the word upgrade in a different way than subscribers use the term. People who aren't savvy are getting duped, like the OP I responded to.
The rest of us who are savvy enough to do the math realize the Edge program is not an upgrade at all - it is paying full retail in installments - and as dpham00 worked it out for you, that comes to paying $420 more for a phone then if you used your upgrade.
All you are doing is proving my point for me. Verizon does not offer upgrades except every 24 months. The have a full retail installment plan, and they are trying to dupe people by calling it an upgrade when it is not. You and the OP may not be savvy or good enough at math to realize you are getting duped, but not everyone is so easily fooled.
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Verizon also says that you can upgrade anytime at full retail. In the context of upgrading every 2 years, most understand that it is referring to Subsidized pricing.
You can buy a new phone every day from best buy and pay 0 upfront, and financing the entire phone. I personally would not consider this to be using an upgrade.
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And neither would 99.9% of U.S. cell phone users.
The only difference between Edge and Best Buy is that Edge gives you 24 months to pay off the full retail price of the phone with no financing charges and with Best Buy you have 18 months to pay off the full retail price without financing charges. Neither of those options, however, are considered using an upgrade by the vast majority of US cell phone subscribers.
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It would appear that I'm better at math than you are at reading comprehension since I already stated earlier in the thread that I did the math and determined the Next/Edge plans made no sense from a financial standpoint.
But now that it's abundantly clear what we both meant by upgrade and it's pointless splitting hairs over the meaning of the word (since I'm using the actual dictionary definition and you're using a axiom), please, by all means, feel free to continue with your ad hominem attacks on the forum membership. I love to play.
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You go into best buy and buy one then switch your SIM card out of your old phone and put it into your new phone. Repeat that process daily.
You are the one doing that. The rest of us know what this term means in this context.
which is your problem, of course. You are citing to the most general meaning of the word in MOST ALL contexts, rather than looking at the specific context the word is used in.
You are the only person on these forums I have ever encountered who thinks the word upgrade in the context of cell phones means anything other than the upgrades the carriers give you for you to get a subsidized phone.
You have lost this argument and you know it. You are just trying to save face and not being successful at that either. On ignore you go; I long ago lost my ability to suffer fools.
Please do not insult other users. This includes calling them a fool, whether directly or indirectly grouping them. You are fully within your right to block a user should you feel that you have no need to further correspond, or if you do not like what they post. But please be the more mature individual and do not resort to name calling.
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My thought was that if you sold first and bought later you might be able to take advantage of a little bit higher price for the old phone (Note 3 next October). saying it another way, I would expect the market price of the Note 3 to significantly fall on Note 4 launch day. Perhaps the price difference isn't enough to justify the inconvenience.
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Let me put this layman's terms for everyone.........
No matter who, what, when, where, and why, you buy a new phone (except buying outright on ebay and etc.)...you're getting ripped off somehow and in someway. Period. Carriers over charge us for these suckers...and when you do the finance crap, they have you in that contract till it's paid in full...but you're still paying their price no matter the circumstance! When you get a phone for 0 bucks on contract you're still paying the outrageous plan price.
So when it comes to contracts and financing.....lube up, bend over, and grab them ankles....
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He prolly meant GS5. But I bet it will be out in March.
No matter who, what, when, where, and why, you buy a new phone (except buying outright on ebay and etc.)...you're getting ripped off somehow and in someway. Period. Carriers over charge us for these suckers...and when you do the finance crap, they have you in that contract till it's paid in full...but you're still paying their price no matter the circumstance! When you get a phone for 0 bucks on contract you're still paying the outrageous plan price.
So when it comes to contracts and financing.....lube up, bend over, and grab them ankles....
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He prolly meant GS5. But I bet it will be out in March.
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What carrier do you have? Are you unhappy with the N3? Why did you get it if you're not happy with it? There will always be upgraded models to just about every phone that's out there. If you just have to have the latest and greatest every time a new phone comes out, find a carrier that will allow you to do do so. Even so, it's going to get expensive.
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This was supposed to be posted for the OP. Sorry, but it posted to the wrong person.
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true, but you never know when they will be released exactly.
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typo of course I meant S5
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