Evo 4G camera has Backside Illumination also!!!

[DxTcmix]

Just so everyone knows.... The Evo 4G also has this Backside Illumination thing that the iPhone 4 has, the source of the info in the links below

HTC Evo Teardown by Chipworks

OmniVision OV8812 Color CMOS 8-megapixel

It is also capable of 720p @ 60fps....

 

[anon(22913)]

lol thats great, the Apple fanboys thought "backside illumination" was just for their precious iPhone, nice.

 

[Lockeskidney]

yea people are flipping out about the iphones camera when htc is already implementing backlit. I think apples improvements are in how it processes the image.
EVO's camera i think can be better using froyo

 

[DxTcmix]

I think we will see alot of Improvements to the Evo's Camera in the coming months, i am already blown away by the quality of it when taking Pics, even in low light conditions. Finally i can put my n95's crown on my Evo 4G!!!

 

[frettfreak]

I think there is a lot that will be MUCH improved when froyo hits our phones... the chipset for the wireless actually supports wireless N too!! So STICK IT IOS4!! lol

 

[franky_402]

hopefully froyo will take advantage of all these features that are just sitting there wasting space atm. I'm sure it will make the phone alot better from what ive seen from videos that the fps could be bumped up and also less compression for the hd videos and it will be much better video

 

[th3gh05t]

What is this backlit you speak of?

 

[frank828#AC]

i hear the 24 fps is intentional because that is what the motion picture industry uses.

24p - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gmaxxx]

No matter if the Iphone 4 or EVO have 24p (Which they don't) still the 5mp camera compared to an 8mp camera is what everyone should be seeing. If you know how to use the camera on the EVO the right way there are alot of cool things you can do. I found a way to actually use a little dept. of field which is extremely cool in certain situation.

 

[frank828#AC]

a little digging and it turns out that the iphone 4 may be using a chip by the same manufacturer as the evo. or it might be LG. i guess we gotta wait till someone tears it apart.

 

[Braaainz]

looks like the Evo has add-on lenses that can be used too!
Macro & Fish Eye Lens for Evo! - Android Forums

 

[akarol]

Nice find. More ammunition for my discussion with a fanboi at work.

 

[NVNJ]

Nice find. More ammunition for my discussion with a fanboi at work.

Nice! I love getting into it with Fanbois. IE: My brother, who actually is disappointed with the lastest Iphone 4 Specs.

+1 for the EVO !

 

[dwhitman]

What is this backlit you speak of?

Just a detail about the sensor chip. Traditionally, the sensor chip has its metalization layer(s) on the same surface as is exposed to the light of your image. The metalization is patterned into wires that interconnect everything to allow reading the image from the sensors.

For technical reasons, metalization is normally one of the, it not THE, last layers to go on a chip, which means it's normally "on top". On a image sensor, having the metalization on top means that some of the image light is blocked by the wiring, which cuts the sensitivity somewhat.

"Backside Illumination" means that they have built the chip so that the sensors are on the BACK, opposite the metalization. This increases the sensitivity since there's no wiring blocking light.

Making chips this way is rather more expensive; in making chips, all deposition and imaging is done on the front side. To put the sensors on the back they bury them at the bottom of the front side, bond the wafer to a carrier and remove most of the backside thickness to expose the buried sensors. There's a nice process flow diagram here, for those familiar with chip fab processes.

 

[dre3k2]

I don't care about the fps count... I just would like for them to stop compressing the HD video so much.

If i'm going to record in 720p.. I want it to look like 720p.

 

[legacy]

I don't care about the fps count... I just would like for them to stop compressing the HD video so much.

If i'm going to record in 720p.. I want it to look like 720p.

Amen.

 

[Cr12]

anyone tried out those lenses? i have to take alot of interior pics of houses, and if i could get a wide angle lens it would outdo my point and shoot,

 

[th3gh05t]

Just a detail about the sensor chip. Traditionally, the sensor chip has its metalization layer(s) on the same surface as is exposed to the light of your image. The metalization is patterned into wires that interconnect everything to allow reading the image from the sensors.

For technical reasons, metalization is normally one of the, it not THE, last layers to go on a chip, which means it's normally "on top". On a image sensor, having the metalization on top means that some of the image light is blocked by the wiring, which cuts the sensitivity somewhat.

"Backside Illumination" means that they have built the chip so that the sensors are on the BACK, opposite the metalization. This increases the sensitivity since there's no wiring blocking light.

Making chips this way is rather more expensive; in making chips, all deposition and imaging is done on the front side. To put the sensors on the back they bury them at the bottom of the front side, bond the wafer to a carrier and remove most of the backside thickness to expose the buried sensors. There's a nice process flow diagram here, for those familiar with chip fab processes.

Thank you so much for this great explination!

 

[xorbe]

"back-wired sensor" is a better term than "backside illumination sensor" ... I read that somewhere. But that's what they call it, I guess.

 

[Auzo]

No matter if the Iphone 4 or EVO have 24p (Which they don't) still the 5mp camera compared to an 8mp camera is what everyone should be seeing. If you know how to use the camera on the EVO the right way there are alot of cool things you can do. I found a way to actually use a little dept. of field which is extremely cool in certain situation.

This is the war that has been raging between Canon and Nikon for a long time. Canon is in the more Megapixels = better camp and Nikon is in the PQ > Resolution camp.

I think that at the higher MP level that DSLRs roll at Nikon's argument holds more weight, but the difference between 5 and 8 is the difference in being able to print out a full 8" x 10" quality print and not. You want at least 300 ppi to print out a nice color photo which means at 8MP you can print out up to a 8.2" x 10.9" photo vs at 5MP you can print out up to a 6.5" x 8.6" photo. reference here:
Resolution & Print Size

With that said I have to disagree with the second part of your post. MP count has nothing to do with depth of field. Focal length and aperture is what really determines your ability to create that effect. Sensor size (physical dimensions) plays a role as well because it is taken into account when determining the effective focal length.