Farewell Xoom

[Air Force One]

Wow this is a pretty fanboy statement. Trusting Apple is not a bad thing and people who buy apple products are loyal for a good reason. Apple provides quality products to their customers.

I am not an iOS fan

Okay

 

[jonhcox]

The majority of people looking for a tablet this year don't have an informed opinion.

Here is a typical person looking to buy a tablet this year:

Gizmodo, the Gadget Guide

90% of Android users buy Android because they know what they're doing.

90% of others buy based on what they think is cool.

Sorry. I think your comment is based on stupidity and believing anything that Jizmodo says is also borderline idiotic. They, just like 90% of the other tech blogs not only make up a large quantity of bull**** to keep you tagging the page, but also poll such an absurdly small amount of people that the polls are useless. Especially for fact-based reporting.

I buy Android because I understand it and can properly utilize it. My mom buys an iPad because she could give a flop about 3/4 of the capability that Android gives you. She prefers the simplicity of iOS and yes- build quality of Apple products. I would be willing to bet that a large majority of the people buying iPads are buying them because they are made by Apple, thus well made, and easy to use. The comment about "buying what they think is cool" is very off base. My mother bought it because she understands it and the app-based OS works best for her.

Say what you like, but you simply cannot truly compare the two devices as far as quality of assembly. The iPad wins. Compare specs and the Xoom wins. It's pretty obvious on paper. I prefer the Xoom/Android, even given that it sat in a crappy, dinky little display in Best Buy and had a creaky plastic backside. Apple knows what they are doing and frankly, Motorola's marketing of the Xoom is sub par and their reputation isn't exactly glowing either. Remember sport- I'm not an Apple fanboy, it's just superior maketing. Because you don't get it just means that you aren't Apple's target audience. It's ok to be passionate about a product, just don't insert too much loyalty without a little common sense.

To the OP- glad you were able to make the decision after a little trial and error. I did the same with my iPhone 4. Just couldn't make it work for my application. I missed the notifications for when I spend my usual 3-4 hours in a meeting every day. For a tablet though, I will likely sell my Ipad and upgrade to number two. I think iOS 5 will truly play on the capabilities of the new iPad.

 

[cparker5]

Well I guess I am the exception here. I love Apple because they do things right. I love my Mac Pro because its a freaking beast and does excellent video editing. I have enjoyed every one of my iPhones and iPads. I do consider myself a "techie" though. I am constantly getting the latest and greatest when it comes to mobile phone tech and now tablet tech. I use what works best. I dont even much agree with the statement above anyway. Because a certain group likes Apple products, it categorizes them in the "dumbed down mass"? Im sorry but that seems a tad bit ignorant.

I remember being called out because I said that Motorola was doing the preLaunch poorly and Apple does it right. At the time you thought I was just being negative, glad you see the light now.

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[anon(52425)]

I remember being called out because I said that Motorola was doing the preLaunch poorly and Apple does it right. At the time you thought I was just being negative, glad you see the light now.

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Moving on PARKER...

 

[anon(52425)]

Sorry. I think your comment is based on stupidity and believing anything that Jizmodo says is also borderline idiotic. They, just like 90% of the other tech blogs not only make up a large quantity of bull**** to keep you tagging the page, but also poll such an absurdly small amount of people that the polls are useless. Especially for fact-based reporting.

I buy Android because I understand it and can properly utilize it. My mom buys an iPad because she could give a flop about 3/4 of the capability that Android gives you. She prefers the simplicity of iOS and yes- build quality of Apple products. I would be willing to bet that a large majority of the people buying iPads are buying them because they are made by Apple, thus well made, and easy to use. The comment about "buying what they think is cool" is very off base. My mother bought it because she understands it and the app-based OS works best for her.

Say what you like, but you simply cannot truly compare the two devices as far as quality of assembly. The iPad wins. Compare specs and the Xoom wins. It's pretty obvious on paper. I prefer the Xoom/Android, even given that it sat in a crappy, dinky little display in Best Buy and had a creaky plastic backside. Apple knows what they are doing and frankly, Motorola's marketing of the Xoom is sub par and their reputation isn't exactly glowing either. Remember sport- I'm not an Apple fanboy, it's just superior maketing. Because you don't get it just means that you aren't Apple's target audience. It's ok to be passionate about a product, just don't insert too much loyalty without a little common sense.

To the OP- glad you were able to make the decision after a little trial and error. I did the same with my iPhone 4. Just couldn't make it work for my application. I missed the notifications for when I spend my usual 3-4 hours in a meeting every day. For a tablet though, I will likely sell my Ipad and upgrade to number two. I think iOS 5 will truly play on the capabilities of the new iPad.

Thanks. This thread has turned into a pretty good discussion and I am happy to see that some see where I am coming from. Xoom vs iPad aside, I like what you said about the classification of people that buy into Apple products. Well put.

 

[Air Force One]

Say what you like, but you simply cannot truly compare the two devices as far as quality of assembly. The iPad wins. Compare specs and the Xoom wins.

Actually iPad and Xoom are equal in build quality and Xoom wins in specs, hence Xoom wins

And you have your opinion of Apple users and I have mine The vast majority of them have no idea why they bought an iPhone/iPad other than they think it's cool. I'm not claiming YOU specifically are in that 90%, I'm just saying...I just know too many people who own iPhones and they are generally idiots when it comes to tech.

 

[anon(52425)]

Can't the same be said for anyone that buys ANY brand?

 

[jonhcox]

Actually iPad and Xoom are equal in build quality and Xoom wins in specs, hence Xoom wins

And you have your opinion of Apple users and I have mine The vast majority of them have no idea why they bought an iPhone/iPad other than they think it's cool. I'm not claiming YOU specifically are in that 90%, I'm just saying...I just know too many people who own iPhones and they are generally idiots when it comes to tech.

Yes. And that's because it doesn't appeal to them. Specs aren't God, kid. When you look around, do you see only green? If so, back out slowly.

 

[qnet]

I understand that they wanted to beat Apple to punch and bring out a real competitor to the iPad before Apple announced a second generation.
However, this would have only worked if the Xoom wasn't 1. as expensive and 2. as buggy.

Somebody coming from an iPad will be extremely annoyed by all the bugs and lack of Apps/features (like me). And new customers will weigh the fact that they can pay $799 for a buggy and unreliable tablet with acces to about 10 Apps or $499 for a maybe less powerful but solid tablet with access to 65,000 Apps......

I agree very much and, that's my situation. I really like the Xoom & Android but, it just isn't there yet. I'm seriously thinking about returning it also. If I never had a Ipad, I might think differently.

It has nothing to do with being uninformed or a Apple fanboy (I'm far from that). The Ipad just works better IMO. I don't do a lot on these devices but, when I do do something I want it to work and, not crash when I'm right in the middle of something.

The only app I remember crashing on the Ipad is Netflix and, they updated that very quickly. The whole experience for me involving the Xoom has been negative from the beginning, even before it came out ( all the stupid rumors & leaks , with no real info). Everything from the rude Best buy employees, to the Verizon guy at Costco screwing up and, putting me on a contract when I paid full price.

 

[shingi_70]

Actually iPad and Xoom are equal in build quality and Xoom wins in specs, hence Xoom wins

And you have your opinion of Apple users and I have mine The vast majority of them have no idea why they bought an iPhone/iPad other than they think it's cool. I'm not claiming YOU specifically are in that 90%, I'm just saying...I just know too many people who own iPhones and they are generally idiots when it comes to tech.

the specs are about evenly matched and i personally think that the ipad has better build quality.

still its about looks at first and the ipad is more aesthetically pleasing.


if may ask what are some of your thoughs on mac os x

 

[anon(52425)]

For those that havent owned one or even used one, the iPad does work and it works very well. But so does the Xoom. If you're a die hard Android fan, the choice is obvious. I find myself in the middle, I like both OS's just about equally. Heck, just last year I repurchased the Nexus One 4 times and between that I was using iPhones. It's tough, they are both great OS's IMO.

 

[Air Force One]

Can't the same be said for anyone that buys ANY brand?

Well no because far more people buy Apple products so while you get great sales numbers you have to own the greater number of idiots too.

In all seriousness tho, I do honestly believe there are more tech heads that own Android rather than iOS. I truly believe far more folks know WHY they are buying an Android device...example: for widget support, rooting.. than do folks who buy Apple products. If you go to an Apple store and ask customers why they are buying Apple, how many are going to say "because it's a walled garden that lends itself to smoother operation and fewer crashes and a more dependable experience", etc..? Now they may say "more apps" but that's because again it's what the "hear".

They're in there because it's the "in" brand

 

[Brandtmf]

Call me crazy, but i love being an early adopter of the latest and greatest. Having a Xoom is exciting. Its exciting to test drive every new app that comes out. When flash finally comes out, it will be like birthday #2. 4g? Whoohoo!

Maybe that makes me a fan boy because i love this feature incomplete overly expensive device so much. But i dont care! I cant take my hands off it. And i certainly wont be trading in for an Ipad 2.

 

[shingi_70]

Well no because far more people buy Apple products so while you get great sales numbers you have to own the greater number of idiots too.

In all seriousness tho, I do honestly believe there are more tech heads that own Android rather than iOS. I truly believe far more folks know WHY they are buying an Android device...example: for widget support, than do folks who buy Apple products. If ypou go to an Apple store and ask customers why they are buying Apple, how many are going to say "because it's a walled garden that lends itself to smoother operation and fewer crashes", etc..?

They're in there because it's the "in" brand

so not knowing alot about tech makes you an idiot? i know a lot of lawyers,doctors, and a few teachers who bought iphone just because they were simple to use and they don't know alot about tech.


also as much as i want a G-slate i can't get one until google puts out a true competitor to itunes. thats my only regret about the G2 no itunes.

 

[flashpiti]

Well no because far more people buy Apple products so while you get great sales numbers you have to own the greater number of idiots too.

In all seriousness tho, I do honestly believe there are more tech heads that own Android rather than iOS. I truly believe far more folks know WHY they are buying an Android device...example: for widget support, than do folks who buy Apple products. If ypou go to an Apple store and ask customers why they are buying Apple, how many are going to say "because it's a walled garden that lends itself to smoother operation and fewer crashes and a more dependable experience", etc..?

They're in there because it's the "in" brand

Or because in the case of iOS, it just works. My 69 year old father (who I can assure you could give a rats ass about buying the latest in thing), 35 year old wife, and 2 year old daughter all know how to use an iPhone/iPad and figured it out easily. Same can't be said about android , although there is more potential for the user who knows what hes doing.

 

[anon(52425)]

Call me crazy, but i love being an early adopter of the latest and greatest. Having a Xoom is exciting. Its exciting to test drive every new app that comes out. When flash finally comes out, it will be like birthday #2. 4g? Whoohoo!

Maybe that makes me a fan boy because i love this feature incomplete overly expensive device so much. But i dont care! I cant take my hands off it. And i certainly wont be trading in for an Ipad 2.

I too love being an early adopter. It gives me a chance to get to know the latest and greatest from the get-go and make an informed decision on whether or not the said device is really right for me. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the Xoom. Turned lots of heads, got asked lots of questions. I am sure I helped aid some people in their buying decision and now they will make their own conclusions.

 

[cparker5]

Moving on PARKER...

Of course you would like to wouldn't you ;-)

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[anon(52425)]

Of course you would like to wouldn't you ;-)

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Im too tired to have a back and forth with you right now. This thread has turned into a good debate if you will and I want to keep it that way.

 

[Air Force One]

Or because in the case of iOS, it just works. My 69 year old father (who I can assure you could give a rats ass about buying the latest in thing), 35 year old wife, and 2 year old daughter all know how to use an iPhone/iPad and figured it out easily. Same can't be said about android , although there is more potential for the user who knows what hes doing.

You just made my point from the "iPad is a toy" thread

 

[cparker5]

Im too tired to have a back and forth with you right now. This thread has turned into a good debate if you will and I want to keep it that way.

I have added to the debate as well as pointed out your rashness in me saying the same things you are saying today, just 10 days earlier. I can multitasking better then an iPad.

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