Fascinate Froyo Speculation and Rumors

[tnez21]

its missing the kernel from my understanding

correct, the ROM zip does not include a kernel but the OP does provide one to use with it. The install process is a little unusual and everything needs to be flashed serperately(rom, radio, kernel) It also works with any froyo based kernel

 

[tnez21]

Perhaps Samsung will send out extra goodies when they actually do send over Froyo...

....yeah Bing AND a whole bunch of other useless crap

 

[18annu18]

Here's a thought, what if there's an agreement with Bing that lasts one year. That puts it into August if I can remember correct. Maybe Verizon is just waiting until then to release 2.3. In the meantime they've leaked 2.2 for all of us techy people to have it. So that being said we would have 2.3 in about 4 months. I think the strategy on this phone was aimed at the mainstream consumer who doesnt care about version of Android they are on and have no idea what Froyo even is. From first glance I think there are people out there that would not think that this is an Android phone due to Touchwiz. I think Verizon thought they could get away with having a 2.1 device with the financial benefits of Bing for maybe a certain amount of time and once that agreement was up they would move to 2.3 possibly that had Google search as an option.

 

[bluevolume]

Here's a thought, what if there's an agreement with Bing that lasts one year. That puts it into August if I can remember correct. Maybe Verizon is just waiting until then to release 2.3. In the meantime they've leaked 2.2 for all of us techy people to have it. So that being said we would have 2.3 in about 4 months. I think the strategy on this phone was aimed at the mainstream consumer who doesnt care about version of Android they are on and have no idea what Froyo even is. From first glance I think there are people out there that would not think that this is an Android phone due to Touchwiz. I think Verizon thought they could get away with having a 2.1 device with the financial benefits of Bing for maybe a certain amount of time and once that agreement was up they would move to 2.3 possibly that had Google search as an option.

That is one of the most creative conspiracy theories yet. Good work!

 

[18annu18]

That is one of the most creative conspiracy theories yet. Good work!

This phone should be renamed the Fascinating Conspiracy Theory. Maybe my theory is reaching a tad

 

[mgindi26]

It's Just not fair

I don't get it. I just don't get it. Here we are fascinate owners who love our phones and we can't even get the froyo update. Meanwhile the Droid X is getting an official OTA update what gives? It can't be VZW because we see the X getting updated. ANd it can't be Samsung because they've updated other Galaxy S phones.
Are those of us who are afraid of rooting doomed to live in the world of eclair, while Droid X owners get 2 generations more advanced Android without having to Root!
It's Just not fair.

 

[whiteshadow001]

Actually its both Samsung and Verizon's fault. The droid x is one of VZWs flagship phones and its Motorola who pushes out the update. Touchwiz, from what I understand, doesn't play nice with new updates

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[JeremytheIndian]

If you don't mind my asking... why are you afraid of rooting?

One of the nice things about the Fascinate is that it is almost un-permanently-brickable and the people here are always willing to help.

 

[DroidXcon]

I don't get it. I just don't get it. Here we are fascinate owners who love our phones and we can't even get the froyo update. Meanwhile the Droid X is getting an official OTA update what gives? It can't be VZW because we see the X getting updated. ANd it can't be Samsung because they've updated other Galaxy S phones.
Are those of us who are afraid of rooting doomed to live in the world of eclair, while Droid X owners get 2 generations more advanced Android without having to Root!
It's Just not fair.

I hear and understand your frustrations, and im sure there are more political and financial reasons to manipulate updates. Everyone is pigeon holed in black and white, there has to be more then what is obvious. But that being said

we have so many froyo discussion threads there is no reason to start a new one.

 

[bluevolume]

You know what else is not fair? You can get 4 Chicken McNuggets for 99c, but the 9 piece is $3.69. I have to buy 12 nuggets to get a deal? RIDICULOUS!

 

[mgindi26]

If you don't mind my asking... why are you afraid of rooting?

One of the nice things about the Fascinate is that it is almost un-permanently-brickable and the people here are always willing to help.

Well, i guess I am kind of intimidated by my not understanding how the roms and kernels work how to pick the right one etc... plus i know once i start tinkering i don't think I'll ever stop

 

[Naris]

Well, i guess I am kind of intimidated by my not understanding how the roms and kernels work how to pick the right one etc... plus i know once i start tinkering i don't think I'll ever stop

The Galaxy S phones are actually fairly hard to destroy in terms of tinkering. Short of maybe overclocking and frying your hardware I can't imagine it not being able to recover from anything you throw at it software wise. There are some great guides here and on XDA that take about 10 minutes to read. After that it's pretty easy going and you can always Odin things back to stock if you do something you don't like.

 

[Sheepdog Elite]

Believe it or not it was droidXcon that found a way to actually brick your phone, and not gunner mike. Don't let the phone fall of the desk while flashing stuff in odin, if the cable comes out your screwed.

The Galaxy S phones are actually fairly hard to destroy in terms of tinkering. Short of maybe overclocking and frying your hardware I can't imagine it not being able to recover from anything you throw at it software wise. There are some great guides here and on XDA that take about 10 minutes to read. After that it's pretty easy going and you can always Odin things back to stock if you do something you don't like.

 

[anon(94115)]

Well, i guess I am kind of intimidated by my not understanding how the roms and kernels work how to pick the right one etc... plus i know once i start tinkering i don't think I'll ever stop

i would jsut say go with SC and one of the odin packages. It will do everything for you. Root, rom (froyo) and wash the dishes

 

[bigjobber69]

You know what else is not fair? You can get 4 Chicken McNuggets for 99c, but the 9 piece is $3.69. I have to buy 12 nuggets to get a deal? RIDICULOUS!

that is to funny!

 

[RMThompson]

Well, i guess I am kind of intimidated by my not understanding how the roms and kernels work how to pick the right one etc... plus i know once i start tinkering i don't think I'll ever stop

I am the same way, also, it seems those that are rooted have more problems with their phones.

 

[Sheepdog Elite]

I am the same way, also, it seems those that are rooted have more problems with their phones.

We don't have more problems, but we do have solutions to our problems so we talk about them

 

[Naris]

We don't have more problems, but we do have solutions to our problems so we talk about them

This. There is also the fact that people who mod tend to look for the updates that people make that come out very quickly. Even if we're satisfied with the current put together setup the new stuff makes us want more.

 

[NOsquid]

Hell just froze over

[REF][4/15/11] VZW ED01 Froyo Platform/Kernel Source Code - xda-developers

 

[davey11]

OTA should be around the corner. Not to mention stuff from the devs. Thanks for the heads up.