I agree, I would love a 4000-4500 mAh battery on this phone. I have no problem with having a thicker phone, cause it gives the phone a reassuring heft. I also agree with the upgraded DAC.
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Fellow owners of the 6P, especially, but open to all: What, in your opinions, would warrant an upgra
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I agree, I would love a 4000-4500 mAh battery on this phone. I have no problem with having a thicker phone, cause it gives the phone a reassuring heft. I also agree with the upgraded DAC.
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Much better audio output through the headphone jack. The present one is just an abomination. There is too much of cross - talk with negligible volume.
Smaller bezel. But, still retaining those dual front-facing speakers. That ZTE device seems good.
Retain that fingerprint scanner at the back. I wonder how did I survive without that?
If HTC(or whichever OEM is going to make the Nexus) is going to use AMOLED, they do better get the tint right. I got lucky on the first attempt itself. But, I've seen people replacing their phones for more than 6 - 7 times, but still having pinkish or greenish display.
Swap those volume and power buttons or at least increase the space between them.
Retain the Premium feel of the 6P!
Smaller bezel. But, still retaining those dual front-facing speakers. That ZTE device seems good.
Retain that fingerprint scanner at the back. I wonder how did I survive without that?
If HTC(or whichever OEM is going to make the Nexus) is going to use AMOLED, they do better get the tint right. I got lucky on the first attempt itself. But, I've seen people replacing their phones for more than 6 - 7 times, but still having pinkish or greenish display.
Swap those volume and power buttons or at least increase the space between them.
Retain the Premium feel of the 6P!
I love my Nexus 6P. With that being said, I'd love a bigger battery and some water resistance rating. Also, I really wish they would give us the option of configuring the back, home, and recent apps buttons anyway way we want.... That's my perfect phone.
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Happy with the iPhone 6s and Oneplus 3 but for me to be interested in the next nexus device it needs (relative to nexus 6p):
-A much better dac/amp, as a bit of an audiophile the nexus 6p sounds like garbage
-way smaller bezels, unfortunately htc has never shyed away from large bezels so this looks unlikely
- better battery life either through processor/screen efficiency or brute battery size
-Better build quality, the nexus 6p is fragile and catches scrapes and scratches too easily plus it bends and my buttons were mushy
- ambient display needs to be perfected this has been around since 2014 and it still is finicky and hit or miss(mostly miss) the one plus 3 ripped off Moto and does this way better
-820 SOC will probably be on it but I just wish the next iteration would be used instead. The nexus release schedule hurts it every year in terms of which processor it uses. The 810 throttles too much and it is very noticeable in things like chrome after lots of browsing and snapchat which runs like dog poo on anything but the iPhone (it runs very good on the Oneplus 3 and my friends s7 tho so there's hope yet)
-display bonded to rhe glass this is petty but I like the painted on look of a super close display and 2.5d edges. It makes it more immersive and just general scrolling and viewing and reading more enjoyable.
-price, it should be less expensive at launch. It uses older hardware by the time it launches and stays at that price well into the following year. Right now I could get a nexus 6p 32 gb from Google for 499 plus tax or an unlocked note 5 from Amazon for $520 no tax so essentially the same, which is just ludicrous given that the note is better at everything except updates.
I didn't like the 6p and those are my reasons, if the new nexus is better in these regards and the price is right I'll pick one up.
-A much better dac/amp, as a bit of an audiophile the nexus 6p sounds like garbage
-way smaller bezels, unfortunately htc has never shyed away from large bezels so this looks unlikely
- better battery life either through processor/screen efficiency or brute battery size
-Better build quality, the nexus 6p is fragile and catches scrapes and scratches too easily plus it bends and my buttons were mushy
- ambient display needs to be perfected this has been around since 2014 and it still is finicky and hit or miss(mostly miss) the one plus 3 ripped off Moto and does this way better
-820 SOC will probably be on it but I just wish the next iteration would be used instead. The nexus release schedule hurts it every year in terms of which processor it uses. The 810 throttles too much and it is very noticeable in things like chrome after lots of browsing and snapchat which runs like dog poo on anything but the iPhone (it runs very good on the Oneplus 3 and my friends s7 tho so there's hope yet)
-display bonded to rhe glass this is petty but I like the painted on look of a super close display and 2.5d edges. It makes it more immersive and just general scrolling and viewing and reading more enjoyable.
-price, it should be less expensive at launch. It uses older hardware by the time it launches and stays at that price well into the following year. Right now I could get a nexus 6p 32 gb from Google for 499 plus tax or an unlocked note 5 from Amazon for $520 no tax so essentially the same, which is just ludicrous given that the note is better at everything except updates.
I didn't like the 6p and those are my reasons, if the new nexus is better in these regards and the price is right I'll pick one up.
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I skipped on the 6P and stayed with my Lg nexus 5.
in the next nexus i would lioke to see:
Good battery life, even if its a little thicker
Durability - its a mobile phone to be used out and about so it need to be able to take lifes bumps and knocks and still work afterwards
Repairability hopefuly something that can easily be repaired, screens battery's ports and anything else that may take a knock.
QI charging, its slower but its incredibly convenient, leave on a charge pad overnight, or just plonk it down on one for a while and it will charge.
in the next nexus i would lioke to see:
Good battery life, even if its a little thicker
Durability - its a mobile phone to be used out and about so it need to be able to take lifes bumps and knocks and still work afterwards
Repairability hopefuly something that can easily be repaired, screens battery's ports and anything else that may take a knock.
QI charging, its slower but its incredibly convenient, leave on a charge pad overnight, or just plonk it down on one for a while and it will charge.
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Specs to warrant an upgrade? From a pragmatic standpoint, I don't really think one is available. I have no serious concerns or complaints about the 6P. Sure, OIS would certainly improve video recording, but the lack hasn't caused undue harm to any of the videos I've taken as of yet. Sure, they might be a little bit more shaky than my wife's S7, but when we watch the compilation videos she makes of our kids, it's irrelevant. I guess I would be OK with them adding a bit of thickness to allow for smaller bezels, but I can't say as those the bezels bother me as is. Screen is good, camera is great, performance is excellent, battery performance gives me what I require, etc...
I mean, the stuff that WOULD give some serious utility... like 10x optical zoom, battery twice as large, etc... are either not possible or would make a mess of things.
So what I am left with is a somewhat small list of minor issues that I don't really think would justify having to go through the trouble of selling my current 6P and spending the money on a new one. Between the effort and money out of pocket, there's really nothing they could add to the new Nexus that would be worth it.
I mean, the stuff that WOULD give some serious utility... like 10x optical zoom, battery twice as large, etc... are either not possible or would make a mess of things.
So what I am left with is a somewhat small list of minor issues that I don't really think would justify having to go through the trouble of selling my current 6P and spending the money on a new one. Between the effort and money out of pocket, there's really nothing they could add to the new Nexus that would be worth it.
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Coming from a Moto X 14' Pure Edition I will likely be getting a Nexus 2016 of some sort. While my Moto X has been nothing but great for me....I like the updates part personally. But my Moto X PE has been a bliss to use this far. It's with my on my daily runs and work and so on...its been great but the Nexus line is something that has my attention.
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I like the MXPE but with recent reports that Lenova will not support their products with timely updates, am sorta putoff by that acknowledgement. I am also going to look hard at the new Nexus Marlin coming out this fall and the Note7, if they make a flat version.
I would love the same screen size and quality as my 6p but in a smaller form factor. I love my 6p but wish it was a tad smaller sometimes.
Much better battery, smaller body, stronger aluminium, smaller or no camera related bump/visor and an SoC that doesn't get warm by looking at chrome for two minutes.
Other nice-to-haves include front facing speakers, waterproofing and a less criminal EU pricing. It cost €699 in Italy for the 32GB Nexus 6P and I was lucky to find it on Amazon for €649. I don't mind that price but it's ridiculous considering that it was only $500 in the US.
Yeah I know taxes have something to do with it but $500 + 22% (Italy's VAT) = $610 = €537 (as of calculation) which is about a little under €170 less than the asking price on Italy's Google Store for a phone made by a Chinese company.
Other nice-to-haves include front facing speakers, waterproofing and a less criminal EU pricing. It cost €699 in Italy for the 32GB Nexus 6P and I was lucky to find it on Amazon for €649. I don't mind that price but it's ridiculous considering that it was only $500 in the US.
Yeah I know taxes have something to do with it but $500 + 22% (Italy's VAT) = $610 = €537 (as of calculation) which is about a little under €170 less than the asking price on Italy's Google Store for a phone made by a Chinese company.
A Nexus/Google phone I'll buy, I have a Huawei mate 2, it weeks great, but getting the last can you say only, upgrade was a total pain. I don't plan on another Huawei phone, i like the removable memory and like a long lasting battery. It's there any history on ZTE upgrades of their phones?
Honestly, I was sold on the Note7 until the battery cell issues - which I hope to see resolved before making my decision around Thanksgiving. I am very wary about HTC manufacturing the new Google Nexus/Pixel line. Let's just say that their cameras have almost always been subpar. Even with Google onboard, I have little faith that they are going to be able to produce the best camera, unless it is again outsourced.
Nearly a year later, I love my Nexus 6P far more than I did my Nexus 6 at this point, and yet, I still have a few major gripes about this phone that I'm not confident HTC will be able to address:
(1) Call and signal quality on Sprint
I notice markedly poorer call and signal quality using my 6P on Sprint, and while I was quick to blame Sprint at first, I live in the middle of Manhattan and family members with Samsung and Apple phones do not encounter the same signal issues.
(2) Lack of wi-fi calling support
On Sprint, there's also no wi-fi calling and texting support for the 6P, which means stomaching poor call/text quality. I jumped for joy when I heard the Nexus line was going to get the same Wi-Fi technology used on Project Fi, but stepped back when I remembered that Sprint does not support wi-fi calling on the 6P. Thus, anytime I have a poor signal, I cannot call or text unlike everyone else I know.
(3) Confusing, startling lack of support for the 6P's USB-C port
I have had a dead phone without a USB-C charger in reach twice in the past year. And it sucked. Now, I have five chargers and keep them scattered around my life to make sure that I will never go phone-less. But after losing my charger while on a trip back in January, I found out the hard way. Finding the right spec'd USB-C cables on Amazon was an absolute disaster, despite the Google engineer who tested out cables. And purchasing another cable on Google that had a 3-5 business day window for delivery was unhelpful. I'm tired of owning a phone that is not properly supported inside mainstream stores like Best Buy and Target. And I'm tired of owning a phone that still, to this day, doesn't seem to have the same specifications of other USB-C devices.
(4) Snail's pace with which HDR+ processes
The 6P's camera is wonderful and I take remarkably better shots than anyone with an iPhone to this day. However, HDR+ processing on the 6P is ridiculous. It is slow and I have not noticed improvements since upgrading to Nougat. I don't see why the camera software/hardware is so slow at processing HDR+. Not to mention the lack of OIS.
(5) Poor optimization of certain signature apps for the device (e.g., Snapchat, Instagram)
Snapchat, Instagram, and many other signature apps simply do not work as well on the 6P. And it's annoying. I would delete these apps altogether if they weren't the center of life for friends and family. Instead, I have to deal with the drain they put on my battery, reduced quality in the way that Instagram and Snapchat process the photos I take, and poor CPU usage. It's a mess.
(6) Can't text from my computer without the use of a third-party app
Google should be ashamed. Yes, Project Fi and the remnants of Google Voice on Hangouts allow a 6P user to communicate between their computers and phones. But this means giving out my Google Voice number to everyone instead of my main line, which is impractical. Text. Messaging. Needs. To. Work. On. My. Computer. Without. A. Third-Party. App. That is all. The iPhone has had this feature for years and if Google really wants to put emphasis on messaging, this is a remarkably simple feature to adopt.
If Google and HTC can fix all of these problems and retain the build quality and overall experience of the 6P, they'll have my purchase. Otherwise, I'm going to look elsewhere; maybe go back to Samsung or - yikes! - even consider the iPhone (although I really don't want to).
Nearly a year later, I love my Nexus 6P far more than I did my Nexus 6 at this point, and yet, I still have a few major gripes about this phone that I'm not confident HTC will be able to address:
(1) Call and signal quality on Sprint
I notice markedly poorer call and signal quality using my 6P on Sprint, and while I was quick to blame Sprint at first, I live in the middle of Manhattan and family members with Samsung and Apple phones do not encounter the same signal issues.
(2) Lack of wi-fi calling support
On Sprint, there's also no wi-fi calling and texting support for the 6P, which means stomaching poor call/text quality. I jumped for joy when I heard the Nexus line was going to get the same Wi-Fi technology used on Project Fi, but stepped back when I remembered that Sprint does not support wi-fi calling on the 6P. Thus, anytime I have a poor signal, I cannot call or text unlike everyone else I know.
(3) Confusing, startling lack of support for the 6P's USB-C port
I have had a dead phone without a USB-C charger in reach twice in the past year. And it sucked. Now, I have five chargers and keep them scattered around my life to make sure that I will never go phone-less. But after losing my charger while on a trip back in January, I found out the hard way. Finding the right spec'd USB-C cables on Amazon was an absolute disaster, despite the Google engineer who tested out cables. And purchasing another cable on Google that had a 3-5 business day window for delivery was unhelpful. I'm tired of owning a phone that is not properly supported inside mainstream stores like Best Buy and Target. And I'm tired of owning a phone that still, to this day, doesn't seem to have the same specifications of other USB-C devices.
(4) Snail's pace with which HDR+ processes
The 6P's camera is wonderful and I take remarkably better shots than anyone with an iPhone to this day. However, HDR+ processing on the 6P is ridiculous. It is slow and I have not noticed improvements since upgrading to Nougat. I don't see why the camera software/hardware is so slow at processing HDR+. Not to mention the lack of OIS.
(5) Poor optimization of certain signature apps for the device (e.g., Snapchat, Instagram)
Snapchat, Instagram, and many other signature apps simply do not work as well on the 6P. And it's annoying. I would delete these apps altogether if they weren't the center of life for friends and family. Instead, I have to deal with the drain they put on my battery, reduced quality in the way that Instagram and Snapchat process the photos I take, and poor CPU usage. It's a mess.
(6) Can't text from my computer without the use of a third-party app
Google should be ashamed. Yes, Project Fi and the remnants of Google Voice on Hangouts allow a 6P user to communicate between their computers and phones. But this means giving out my Google Voice number to everyone instead of my main line, which is impractical. Text. Messaging. Needs. To. Work. On. My. Computer. Without. A. Third-Party. App. That is all. The iPhone has had this feature for years and if Google really wants to put emphasis on messaging, this is a remarkably simple feature to adopt.
If Google and HTC can fix all of these problems and retain the build quality and overall experience of the 6P, they'll have my purchase. Otherwise, I'm going to look elsewhere; maybe go back to Samsung or - yikes! - even consider the iPhone (although I really don't want to).
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Well you're probably in luck with the camera. Leaked specs suggest it's the same (or similar) Sony sensor as what's in the 6P, but with OIS added in. I wouldn't fret too much about the camera, it's hard to imagine camera quality degrading from the last gen to the next gen.
ois is great, I love the picture quality on the 6p. ois will make it even better. the other thing they need to improve is the camera software. I missed so many great picture opportunities of my new born daughter cause of how slow the camera start up speed, or time it takes between shots.
another improvement I want to see is the battery life.
those are the 2 features I have always envy of iPhone users.
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Wow.. I'm very lucky as compared to others here with the performance and day to day usage of my 6p. I know my needs are different than many folks so mmmv compared to the op's
My signal on AT&T is better than any other carrier bought phone I have had, this battery life is excellent getting 5.5/6 hours of on screen time regularly. I have had zero complaints about the camera, Bluetooth, lag or apps not working right. Actually it's night and day better than anything I have owned..
So.. To answer the question from my experience with the 6p...it would have to be monumental to warrant upgrading meaning everything else would have to be improved across the board in a huge way and this includes speaker placement and the actual looks of it too. I feel that the 6p is a beautiful looking phone that stands out in a crowd with how the camera bar looks.. Very unique compared to other phones..
I've upgraded several times this year and believe me I use my phone a lot more than many people I know so I do understand where you are coming from.
Just having the latest version of the phone for just the sake of having it isn't a good reason to me. Now if the new version fulfills more of your needs than the current one then go right ahead and get one or if having one makes you happier this too is okay.. It has to be a better experience than with your current phone in other words. Then you can justify buying it real easy to yourself..
My signal on AT&T is better than any other carrier bought phone I have had, this battery life is excellent getting 5.5/6 hours of on screen time regularly. I have had zero complaints about the camera, Bluetooth, lag or apps not working right. Actually it's night and day better than anything I have owned..
So.. To answer the question from my experience with the 6p...it would have to be monumental to warrant upgrading meaning everything else would have to be improved across the board in a huge way and this includes speaker placement and the actual looks of it too. I feel that the 6p is a beautiful looking phone that stands out in a crowd with how the camera bar looks.. Very unique compared to other phones..
I've upgraded several times this year and believe me I use my phone a lot more than many people I know so I do understand where you are coming from.
Just having the latest version of the phone for just the sake of having it isn't a good reason to me. Now if the new version fulfills more of your needs than the current one then go right ahead and get one or if having one makes you happier this too is okay.. It has to be a better experience than with your current phone in other words. Then you can justify buying it real easy to yourself..
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