G2: Good, Bad and Ugly
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If you need that much storage.... carry a laptop with you. or even a portable thumb drive and an OTG cable.
We are talking about a PHONE here.
Im sorry... but as a "normal" consumer, I will never need more then 32GB. just like the other 90% of people.
What happens when your phone dies and all your music and pictures go with it. A lot of people don't know about or don't want to use cloud storage. I don't see myself using cloud storage either so a sd card is my top choice. I'd rather back it up on my pc than pay for cloud storage.
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Read Jerry's writeup about why SD cards were phased out. Assuming it's done for x or y reason is weird, when Google flat out explained their reasoning.
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There is no good reason, from a consumer point of view, to omit sdcards. Sure it reduces, cost but it severely restricts the user. The issue you mention are all from a poor design not from the complexity of adding an sdcard.
In the past I rarely used a spare battery and rarely used sdcards. But it seems modern phones are being used more and more. With my note I've had to buy a SDCard and spare batteries because the stock system was not enough.
This is a horrible argument, any developer should abstract file paths from their program.
Plus it if far more work to program for on screen buttons, keyboard, different screen sizes, missing menu button.
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I'm not gonna speak for the other 90%, and I'd imagine they'd not want me to. Between music, movies, and other files that's just not that much data. These devices are called phones for lack of a better term, IMO. It's more of a "palmtop" that also happens to have the ability to make and receive calls, a feature I use less and less. If you only need 32GB of storage that's cool but that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone else.
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It's a micro-SD and quite a few of them come with a USB adapter.
What happens if your phone dies and you have not downloaded your data?
I need more than 32GB. My music collection is that big and some.
Movies take up ~1-2GB.
I have ~80GB that I can use on my phone now.
I'd need to figure out how to downsize.
I want my micro-SD slot so I don't have to downsize.....
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You're incredibly condescending. There are threads full of people that have issues with Samsung devices and some of the highest end SanDisk SD cards. It is not their fault, it is the fault of the hardware and janky software.
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I don't understand why some prefer 16-32GB+ SD, as opposed to getting manufacturers to create 512GB devices (example number). Again, the reasons for abandoning the cards are pretty clear and compelling if you take a second to understand them.
Is having more options better? Sure! But surely we can be more creative and come up with solutions that are less incompatible with Android's speed and reliability desires, aren't feeding money to Microsoft and realize the concepts being put forth relative to the device disappearing and information and content being readily accessible from all devices instantly, as opposed to having to swap out storage, etc.
We don't use floppy disks anymore and many PCs do not come with optical drives included. Sata is being replaced by ssd and caching, with the bulk of work happening hundreds of miles away in a server bunker.
I get the appeal of SD cards, in a way, but that battle was over 2 years ago for Google and I'd rather OEMS spend their coding time improving the user experience, rather than creating workarounds for this misguided legacy feature.
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Is having more options better? Sure! But surely we can be more creative and come up with solutions that are less incompatible with Android's speed and reliability desires, aren't feeding money to Microsoft and realize the concepts being put forth relative to the device disappearing and information and content being readily accessible from all devices instantly, as opposed to having to swap out storage, etc.
We don't use floppy disks anymore and many PCs do not come with optical drives included. Sata is being replaced by ssd and caching, with the bulk of work happening hundreds of miles away in a server bunker.
I get the appeal of SD cards, in a way, but that battle was over 2 years ago for Google and I'd rather OEMS spend their coding time improving the user experience, rather than creating workarounds for this misguided legacy feature.
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I think we all agree that one of two things will happen:
1. Google will reverse course and specifically rewrite Android to better support SD cards.
2. Google will continue to not support SD cards and more and more OEMs will abandon them.
In the former, we would be stagnant or regressing (on this issue) at the expense of innovation on other fronts. Meanwhile, on the latter, deep thinkers on the hardware and software fronts alike have an opportunity to develop the NEXT storage innovations, unencumbered by man hours dedicated to troubleshooting coding issues from multiple file formats, apps that collect data from totally separate partitions, etc... all that prior to the time, energy and expense troubleshooting the user complaints of, "my SD card died and I had 3,000 photos that were only on that card; fix it".
1. Google will reverse course and specifically rewrite Android to better support SD cards.
2. Google will continue to not support SD cards and more and more OEMs will abandon them.
In the former, we would be stagnant or regressing (on this issue) at the expense of innovation on other fronts. Meanwhile, on the latter, deep thinkers on the hardware and software fronts alike have an opportunity to develop the NEXT storage innovations, unencumbered by man hours dedicated to troubleshooting coding issues from multiple file formats, apps that collect data from totally separate partitions, etc... all that prior to the time, energy and expense troubleshooting the user complaints of, "my SD card died and I had 3,000 photos that were only on that card; fix it".
That's good to know. Is there any particular reason why? I think people in other countries would like an LG G2 with a micro SD slot.
What happens when you computer dies, and all your music and pictures go with it?
Simple enough if you have unlimited backup of all of your pictures in standard size from Auto Backup, (full size up to 15GB (combined with documents, e-mail) + whatever free drive storage you've gotten from promotions, etc), 20,000 songs stored for free on Google Play Music (not counting the fact that their entire library is available for $7.99/mo)... this allows for hardware failure and you can pickup another device and start exactly where you left off, and that's without counting other services like Amazon, Drop Box, the rest of the full functionality of Google Drive... the fact that you can have multiple Google Accounts... For recovery redundancy, the cloud is one of the only things that actually does make sense from an economic, efficiency and effectiveness standpoint. It's free, automatic and will always work (unless Google kills the service, etc: hence multiple backups).
I think 32gigs is fine. It just seems like since the more space phones or hard drives have, people find a reason to fill the available space with clutter. Most of the time those 10,000 pictures and 255 bands and 100 movies...how many of them get over looked? I really doubt people are looking at their 10,000 pictures every day or can easily pick a band out of 255 without questioning why half of that crap is on the drive to begin with.
Yes. It would be nice to see 64gigs become the norm. Just for the sake of having the extra space, if truly needed.
Yes. It would be nice to see 64gigs become the norm. Just for the sake of having the extra space, if truly needed.
That negates the argument of choosing to back up on a computer over paying for cloud storage with the information given.
Why? Because that is how it is? Hey, if manufacturers want to give us devices with more storage then a sd card won't matter to me one bit. From the looks of the G2 they are taking away the card and giving us the same storage options. No thank you.
Citing one specific manufacturer over the quality of sd card issue isn't helping your case either.
I don't think anyone is arguing that they would rather have a 16/32gb + sd phone over something much larger. People are wanting sd cards because all they have are 16/32gb phones. Storage is so cheap these days, there is no reason we shouldn't have more of it.
I agree that I want larger options, but it was pointed out to me here in the forums that there was a limitation of 64GB on a single chip prior to this year, so that's why we weren't seeing 128GB phones, etc (though we did see it in the tablet sphere). Now that it's possible, I definitely want it, but if market research is showing them that it's rare for anyone to purchase more than 16GB, then I could see them cutting costs by only developing one or two models as efficient.
I think 16gb phones are standard because they typically sell at the $200 price point. If people got 32gb for that price, then that would be the norm. They might start using more of it too. Phone makers don't just not include more storage for lower costs, but higher profits too.
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I've never understood why phones don't have 128gb/256gb/512gb options. With HD Digital Copies of movies being 4GB+ each, it just makes sense. When your carrier limits your data usage, it makes even more sense. It just seems asinine to force users into streaming content when data is restricted so much and LTE coverage could not support everyone streaming their content.
"The Cloud" is not a storage solution, its an ease of access solution.
"The Cloud" is not a storage solution, its an ease of access solution.
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