Galaxy nexus released on November 18th?

[kath00]

im gonna pee sitting down today for good luck

I always pee sitting down...

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[philly]

Thank you for this post. Its nice to see another person without a tinfoil hat on around here

Some of the logic that I read in this forum makes no sense to me. People seem to forget that Google and Verizon do not exist to torment us. They're entities whose purpose is to make as much money as possible, plain and simple.

The "Verizon doesn't want to promote this phone because it won't have crapware on it" argument is silly when you think about it. They don't seem to have a problem plastering iPhone posters all over the store even though they can't put crapware on it. No business is going to dedicate resources and shelf space to a product it doesn't intend to sell. They had a choice - it's not like Google could force Verizon to sell the phone. If they didn't want to sell it, they wouldn't carry it in the first place. They passed up the GSII for the GNex because it's the first phone with Android 4.0 and it's got good performance and a gorgeous screen to boot. *That's* the selling point (similar to how the OG Droid was the first phone to debut with 2.0), and I think they're going to promote the heck out of that.

Crapware is small potatoes revenue-wise and annoys customers to no end. Consider that the Razr allows users to uninstall some crapware and hide the ones that cannot be uninstalled. If the crapware was really *that* important to them, would they have allowed this? ICS is going to have very similar functionality built in as well. The real money is in 2 year contracts. In the end, they just want to have a guaranteed revenue stream for 2+ years. If it's a smartphone and you're buying a hefty data package, then hey, that's even better. It doesn't matter all that much to them whether it's the Razr, Rezound, or GNex. They're making money hand over fist over the life of the contract regardless.

Likewise, the argument that Google only considers this a "dev" phone and doesn't care whether or not it's promoted is also frankly silly on its face. Yes, the Nexus is considered a "reference" phone for development, but it was made very clear when the GNex and ICS were announced that Google is working hard on ensuring Android is easy to use for the masses and is as polished as the iPhone. They made a point of launching the phone in the US on the largest carrier with the most advanced LTE network. Why? Because Google makes money through advertising, and they need phone users and eyeballs looking that those phone screens to deliver it. While Google doesn't openly discourage the custom interfaces like Blur, Sense and Touchwiz it's very clear they ultimately want to make them obsolete, so updating phones is easier. When all phones can quickly get Google's latest, best thing, Google makes more money more quickly. You can argue that Google stinks at marketing, but make no mistake that they want this phone in as many hands as possible.

 

[nemov]

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Some of the logic that I read in this forum makes no sense to me.

The "Verizon doesn't want to promote this phone because it won't have crapware on it" argument is silly when you think about it. They don't seem to have a problem plastering iPhone posters all over the store even though they can't put crapware on it.

Good post except for this bit. Forget about Apple. Verizon had to carry that phone or risk losing customers to AT&T. Apple had leverage on Verizon. The iPhone produces one single model a year and Verizon could either take it or leave it.

You're comparing an OS (Android) to a the most popular phone in the United States. Verizon has their own branded Android phone loaded with their bloatware. There's no pressure for VZW to rush the GN to the market. The Razr and the Rezound will make VZW more money. This isn't a silly argument. It's perfectly logical.

 

[mysterx]

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im gonna pee sitting down today for good luck

Excellent idea! For good measure, I pooped sitting down today too!

-me

 

[Asterdroid]

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Excellent idea! For good measure, I pooped sitting down today too!

-me

Blasphemy!

 

[jraugh528]

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Good post except for this bit. Forget about Apple. Verizon had to carry that phone or risk losing customers to AT&T. Apple had leverage on Verizon. The iPhone produces one single model a year and Verizon could either take it or leave it.

You're comparing an OS (Android) to a the most popular phone in the United States. Verizon has their own branded Android phone loaded with their bloatware. There's no pressure for VZW to rush the GN to the market. The Razr and the Rezound will make VZW more money. This isn't a silly argument. It's perfectly logical.

Well, since there's only one family of phone hardware that runs iOS, it's difficult not to make the Android - iPhone comparison. The only difference is that there's way more than one Android phone to compare to it, which muddies the waters a bit.

You're right that Apple probably did have a lot of leverage with Verizon with the iPhone, but it isn't as if Verizon had none. Remember that over the life of the exclusivity agreement with AT&T it was no secret that Apple was very unhappy with the poor quality of AT&T's network and how badly the iPhone performed on it compared to networks overseas. Apple wanted the iPhone on a large, reliable network as soon as it could, and in the U.S. that means Verizon.

I have no doubt that during negotiations Verizon wanted to take steps to make the phone "theirs" by adding some crapware. But Apple is obsessed with controlling the user experience on the iPhone (not necessarily a bad thing, by the way) and this was probably one negotiating point that they absolutely would not budge on. So, since selling phone contracts is more important to Verizon than anything else, and a Verizon iPhone would likely sell like hotcakes, they caved on this.

With the GNex, Google is taking a similar approach to controlling the quality of the user experience. During negotiations with Verizon, they probably told them that the Nexus must be a pure Google experience phone and they refused to budge on that. However, in exchange for not mucking with the phone, Verizon gets an exclusive window to sell an appealing phone which happens to be the only phone in the U.S. with Android 4.0.

Again, Verizon exists to make money and it actually costs them money to "sit" on a phone. There absolutely is pressure to bring it to market because phones that are not sold cause them to lose money. I am not convinced Verizon makes much more money (if any at all) if they sell a Rezound or Razr vs the GNex. If they "sit" on a phone for any length of time at all, it may be because of agreements with the phone manufacturers that may guarantee them a short exclusivity window so they can maximize sales. There may also be last minute technical issues to be resolved. There may be other reasons, but I can be pretty sure they're not going to deliberately lose phone and contract sales over a few bucks of crapware.

 

[whartpence]

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I always pee sitting down...

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Then you need to stand up, just for today.

 

[borgey401]

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Good post except for this bit. Forget about Apple. Verizon had to carry that phone or risk losing customers to AT&T. Apple had leverage on Verizon. The iPhone produces one single model a year and Verizon could either take it or leave it.

You're comparing an OS (Android) to a the most popular phone in the United States. Verizon has their own branded Android phone loaded with their bloatware. There's no pressure for VZW to rush the GN to the market. The Razr and the Rezound will make VZW more money. This isn't a silly argument. It's perfectly logical.

That's funny because the Razr launch is pretty much a flop. Out of all the Verizon employees I have talked to none of them have sold a bunch of them. The first day it launched I called my local Verizon store around 5:00 pm and they told me they have only sold 2 of them all day. I am sure some stores might have sold a decent amount but the launch is no where what they expected it to be. It's clear what the majority of the people who are into cell phones want. Just look at the poll Droid-Life did a week or so ago. The poll about which phone people wanted out of the Razr,Rezound, and Nexus. 10,000 people out of 14,000 people picked the Nexus. Of course this is on a tech blog site but the Nexus will sell itself once it gets in stores without a doubt. The phone is pretty popular already, Verizon is getting a lot of attention over it. It has been in magazines, websites, and even on the news so far. I know people who are not into cell phones like I am and know about the device and want it. Of course Verizon won't put as much into the GN as they would the Razr since they own the DROID branding but I do know they're going to market this phone themselves. I personally think it will keep right up with the Razr but we will just have to wait and see.

I forgot to mention that even the Nexus has a little bit of Verizon bloat on it. It has 3 VZW applications under system/apps. So they still have their bloat on any of the devices no matter what. It may not be as much as on the Nexus as the Rezound and Razr but it does have their main bloat applications.

 

[ManBearPig618]

Re: Galaxy nexus released on the 18th

Another morning, another day without a release date...

 

[experiment 626]

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Another morning, another day without a release date...

Well, the day's still young.Besides we still will have a whole new days worth of filler & BS threads and posts to sort through here so suck it up.

 

[rayj2B]

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I hope it's released before December 31, 2011. Then maybe everyone can settle down and enjoy their new phone.
We have too many mobile phones to choose now.
Even after it's released most of you won't be happy with it and want a new device coming around the corner than will do better so for now hope you all get it released from Verizon this Friday the 18th so the masses can for now be happy.
That's all we want to be, right?

 

[jraugh528]

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That's funny because the Razr launch is pretty much a flop. Out of all the Verizon employees I have talked to none of them have sold a bunch of them. The first day it launched I called my local Verizon store around 5:00 pm and they told me they have only sold 2 of them all day. I am sure some stores might have sold a decent amount but the launch is no where what they expected it to be. It's clear what the majority of the people who are into cell phones want. Just look at the poll Droid-Life did a week or so ago. The poll about which phone people wanted out of the Razr,Rezound, and Nexus. 10,000 people out of 14,000 people picked the Nexus. Of course this is on a tech blog site but the Nexus will sell itself once it gets in stores without a doubt.

I think the problem with the Razr is twofold. First, it's $299, which, as nice a design as the phone may be, is a heck of a lot of money to ask the average Joe Consumer to shell out on a phone. Second, many people who might have jumped at the Razr already bought Bionics just two months ago.

Us techies want the Nexus because we know what it really means - a pure Android experience and Google's latest and greatest. We still don't know what the sales price will be but $299 is probably a safe bet, which is still a high hurdle for the average phone buyer. If it sells more than the Razr to the average Joe, it will be because of the beautiful screen, 4G, and Android 4.0.

 

[Bobaroo]

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Another morning, another day without a release date...

Its early...patience is key

 

[kvlt]

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I hope it's released before December 31, 2011. Then maybe everyone can settle down and enjoy their new phone.
We have too many mobile phones to choose now.
Even after it's released most of you won't be happy with it and want a new device coming around the corner than will do better so for now hope you all get it released from Verizon this Friday the 18th so the masses can for now be happy.
That's all we want to be, right?

Fortunately and unfortunately, im different. Im pretty exclusive to Nexus devices and ive been on every other carrier due to Verizons lack of one. Finally i hopped back on Verizon hoping for my dream device (that im willing to actually go on contract for) and its been a stressful release to say the least. Im stuck on an old Blackberry right now that freezes up if i so little as move the trackball...

So i dont have any phones to choose from, just need to wait it out. Nothing else meets my qualifications and ill gladly sit cozy with the Nexus for atleast a year until the next one comes out, haha. I wish with all my wishes that the release was the 18th... I start a new job Tuesday and would love to have some nerd fun before my time and life are taken so quickly from me, haha.

 

[philly]

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I'm giving it till this friday, if a release date isnt released i'll probably just order a $229 Razr from amazon.

 

[kidserious]

I'm giving it till this friday, if a release date isnt released i'll probably just order a $229 Razr from amazon.

Smh. Fail. Enjoy the chastity belt.

meh

 

[Scottish]

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I'm giving it till this friday, if a release date isnt released i'll probably just order a $229 Razr from amazon.

Don't do it! You'll regret it!

 

[kvlt]

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Don't do it! You'll regret it!

True story. I have a feeling Verizon is loving the frustration and impatience of on the fence buyers. Its definitely going to help Razr sales. Im on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the Nexus isnt atleast given a date by Wednesday of next week, ill switch to a Gsm carrier.... Seeing as how i dont live in an area with great "4g" coverage, the network itself for me really doesnt matter.

 

[experiment 626]

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Don't do it! You'll regret it!

Scottish is right. Just look over at the RAZR Forums,what a bunch of milquetoast reviews. :-[ Right now the biggest feature of the RAZR is that it's not the Bionic.

 

[Snareman]

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Scottish is right. Just look over at the RAZR Forums,what a bunch of milquetoast reviews. :-[ Right now the biggest feature of the RAZR is that it's not the Bionic.

The other biggest feature is that its actually out and buyable.