Give up subsidized phone to get updates direct from google?

[dmmarck]

Lol. No one is being forced off of unlimited data.

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No, but they are being given disincentives to stay, in hopes of weaning them off of it.

 

[Kegman]

i think you are being silly. Jelly bean isnt supposed to be some life changing update, I hear it has a few tweaks that are cool but is mainly incremental and geared towards tablets. Spending $400 to get a small software update and losing the benefit of your company paying for the phone is absurd. I hear the nexus tablet is going to be debuted in 2 days at google i/o and the google nexus will get the update by mid july. I am pretty certain that you will be able to unlock your bootloader, flash the update then re lock and maintain your corporate subsidy with the VZW g nex.

edit : not to mention trading 4g for 3g

in the leaked documents of the nexus tablet and/or jelly bean, it was said that google will directly update the tablet through new features in jelly bean. Google, not asus, will be updating its tablet. Something very different from google's phones.

I was speculating that google might implement this with phones that it sells directly and made the poll as a "what if." I think this is very possible and not a pipe dream. You have to imagine google isn't happy with the way carriers roll out updates and fragmentation issues.

 

[oxymoron]

Okay. You guys have fun.

Out.

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[Ry]

No, but they are being given disincentives to stay, in hopes of weaning them off of it.

That's still not being forced.

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[dmmarck]

That's still not being forced.

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To most .

 

[zedorda]

in the leaked documents of the nexus tablet and/or jelly bean, it was said that google will directly update the tablet through new features in jelly bean. Google, not asus, will be updating its tablet. Something very different from google's phones.

I was speculating that google might implement this with phones that it sells directly and made the poll as a "what if." I think this is very possible and not a pipe dream. You have to imagine google isn't happy with the way carriers roll out updates and fragmentation issues.

It is a pipe dream only with the current CDMA carriers and that is not going to change much till LTE is more wide spread.

 

[dmmarck]

It is a pipe dream only with the current CDMA carriers and that is not going to change much till LTE is more wide spread.

Yup. Way too many hurdles to jump through, most of which are proprietary and take a bit of time/authorization/permissions that are outside of Google's direct power.

 

[Dr0me]

in the leaked documents of the nexus tablet and/or jelly bean, it was said that google will directly update the tablet through new features in jelly bean. Google, not asus, will be updating its tablet. Something very different from google's phones.

I was speculating that google might implement this with phones that it sells directly and made the poll as a "what if." I think this is very possible and not a pipe dream. You have to imagine google isn't happy with the way carriers roll out updates and fragmentation issues.

even if this is the case, switching to the google nexus with HSPA+ from the VZW LTE phone is going to get you MAYBE 2 (most likely only 1) update quicker than you would get with the VZW galaxy nexus before a new nexus is released next year with 5.0. that quicker update is assuming you do not want to unlock the bootloader and flash the update yourself on VZW device. because i am sure the update will be available on XDA is a matter of days / hours after the google nexus gets it.

google recently purchased motorola (mainly for the nortel patents but also to vertically integrate) and is going to be releasing the next nexus on multiple carriers in order to thwart the delay of its updates. Apple has complete control of their iOS updates and push them right out to their customers as they see fit even on VZW CDMA. There is no reason that google shouldnt be able to do the same.

 

[chubb]

It is a pipe dream only with the current CDMA carriers and that is not going to change much till LTE is more wide spread.

Yup. Look at the difference in getting ICS to the Xoom. The wifi only had it months before the CDMA Xoom. GSM or Wifi only nexus' are the only way to get updates direct from Google. Even 4.0.4 for the Galaxy Nexus took an extra month for Verizon to push over the GSM versions.

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[Ry]

Have they rolled out ICS to all Nexus S models?

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[Dr0me]

an anonymous source just showed me an official google email showing nexus tablet and jelly bean release for july 12th.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

It is a pipe dream only with the current CDMA carriers and that is not going to change much till LTE is more wide spread.

I think the carriers moving at a snails pace to push updates is because they would rather we purchase new phones.

 

[zedorda]

I think the carriers moving at a snails pace to push updates is because they would rather we purchase new phones.

That's not the only reason but I bet it is high on the list.

 

[dj hidroid]

I'd love to have the hspa version on a decent network. I'd grab a one x from at&t then grab a hspa Gnex and just swap sims whenever i want a change. I'm not sure if this is true but I read that the hspa is selling for $375 on the play store. I'd be even more pissed then i am now with my 4th defective nexus if i had paid $700-$800 when the international version was released.

 

[ultravisitor]

I believe it's actually $350 in the Play store.

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[Ry]

I believe it's actually $350 in the Play store.

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+ tax


But yah, the price drop was very recent.

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[Channan]

I hope that Google offers a cdma version in the future. I fear Verizon has that on lock down. The nexus that Google currently offers is not usable on Verizon

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Won't matter if they do. Verizon and Sprint don't approve phones to work on their networks that they don't sell themselves. It isn't like a GSM network where you can just pop a SIM in any GSM phone with compatible bands.

That's why, for example, you can't use a Sprint iPhone on Verizon and vice versa. The Sprint iPhone has the exact same hardware as the Verizon iPhone. There's not a single difference. And even though it's the same exact phone Verizon sells with the same exact software, Verizon will not activate a Sprint iPhone on their network.

That'll probably change once Verizon's LTE coverage is as good as 3G, VoLTE rolls out, and your phone operates completely on 4G. But for now, you have to buy all of your phones from Verizon.

 

[Kegman]

forgot about that part. good points everyone

 

[smccloud]

If my current GN has microphone issues like my last 2 (cuts out at random times and might work right the next call) I am going to do everything I can to get Verizon to let me leave ETF free since I don't want what they will probably give me for choices. Then I'll just buy a GN from the Play store and go w/ a pre-paid GSM carrier.