Google Nexus 6 on Verizon

[ultravisitor]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

While true, the phone is not locked down with those apps. I can chose to disable them if I want. I can customize it any way I want.

The same applied to the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Hell, it probably still applies. I just don't know anymore at this point because I haven't used that phone in a while.

 

[MRW1215]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Even though it would mean paying the full retail price for me (which I'm assuming will probably be $600+), I'd strongly consider getting a Nexus if Verizon gets it. And, assuming, the rumored specs (namely the battery) are true, of course.

I had a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I didn't really have a problem with it. I had rooted it and was running a custom ROM, which pretty much kept things exactly as I wanted them without any Verizon "added touches". I don't recall ever having any kind of issues with signal or anything like that. I always thought it was a bummer that, after the GNex, Verizon never got another Nexus phone.

 

[bkircher]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Thats what I would wonder, Ive never bought a nexus cell phone before so I dont know how that would work with it being on Verizon, I dont know if they would honor Googles recommended pricing for the device or if they will have their own figure in mind and sell it at that. Granted, that would prolly mean a 200-250 dollar price difference, but it will still be worth it. If it sells for 450, I could easily see verizon selling it for 699... Which would suck for us, but would still be ok cause it would be the first time in a long time that a nexus device is on the big red... Cant have it all I suppose.

 

[someguy01234]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Most people here doesn't remember the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon completely ruin it and gave a bad reputation for Nexus devices. The updates came very late, they prevent Google Wallet from working, and the phone overall wasn't the same as the GSM version. They absolutely will do the same this time they gets their hands on it. Might as well not get a Nexus because you lose the benefits of Nexus in the first place, except for flashing and root, which is not meant for most consumers, even most of the ones who buy Nexus devices. I'm still skeptical if the bootloader is even unlockable this time if they allow the phone in their network.

 

[clatus]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Galaxy Nexus was a crappy phone all around. Poor battery life, slow/laggy, horrid LTE reception, poor call quality, low detailed 720p display. It wasn't loaded with intrusive bloatware, just a couple apps that you could uninstall. There was a Google wallet work around. You may think because it has the name Nexus that its automatically the carriers fault, but in reality it was a crappy device. I can't put the blame on Verizon on that one.

 

[GTvert90]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Galaxy Nexus was a crappy phone all around. Poor battery life, slow/laggy, horrid LTE reception, poor call quality, low detailed 720p display. It wasn't loaded with intrusive bloatware, just a couple apps that you could uninstall. There was a Google wallet work around. You may think because it has the name Nexus that its automatically the carriers fault, but in reality it was a crappy device. I can't put the blame on Verizon on that one.

I agree. Unless Verizon required LTE. In which case instead of rushing it Google should have said it wasn't going to release it on Verizon that go around.

 

[fofjjsr]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Google Wallet works on my Galaxy S5, why would they block it on a Google device?

 

[GTvert90]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Google Wallet works on my Galaxy S5, why would they block it on a Google device?

Some thought it was because of softcard (isis) Verizon said it was because if the way it accessed the secure element. In 4.4 android emulates the secure element instead of accessing the hardware. There for it should work on all 4.4 devices unless it's removed

 

[Scott7217]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Let's face it most of us lived through the VZW Samsung Galaxy Nexus debacle.....why if this happens will it be any different?

Android and Google have grown over the years, so perhaps that might make a difference.

So far, the only company that can put a phone on Verizon without any compromises is Apple. We are hoping that Google is able to achieve something similar with the Nexus line. It really depends on whether Google has as much negotiating power as Apple does.

 

[theduder]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

It's not a matter of opinion. VZW has the best coverage. Hating Verizon doesn't change that fact.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk

Define better. The answer to the question is relative to where you are and where you travel. I jumped off Verizon after the GN to AT&T and it's as good or better where I am and where I travel. Battery life and reception is better as well.

Perhaps with the right phone Verizon may have great battery life and reception but I wouldn't characterize my experience on the GN as good in these areas. In fact, it seemed to get worse as time passed by and with each radio update.

Verizon either practiced a benign indifference or outright malice towards the GN. When you're trying, things don't usually get worse...

I'll never have a Nexus on their network again barring widespread policy changes that they're likely never going to implement.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

[fofjjsr]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Some thought it was because of softcard (isis) Verizon said it was because if the way it accessed the secure element. In 4.4 android emulates the secure element instead of accessing the hardware. There for it should work on all 4.4 devices unless it's removed

Right I realize it was blocked before, but it is no longer blocked on 4.4 devices. Mine wasnt blocked on 4.3 either but I also had the secure sim card.

 

[Crispy]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Galaxy Nexus was a crappy phone all around. Poor battery life, slow/laggy, horrid LTE reception, poor call quality, low detailed 720p display. It wasn't loaded with intrusive bloatware, just a couple apps that you could uninstall. There was a Google wallet work around. You may think because it has the name Nexus that its automatically the carriers fault, but in reality it was a crappy device. I can't put the blame on Verizon on that one.

The blame on Verizon is they BLOCKED UPDATES on the device which went out to all other Nexus phones. It doesn't matter if the phone itself was good or bad, Verizon's policies are anti-consumer and bad, regardless of phone.

In fact the ONLY good thing Verizon seems to do is they sell a lot of phones unlocked.

 

[ultravisitor]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

I had a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I didn't really have a problem with it. I had rooted it and was running a custom ROM, which pretty much kept things exactly as I wanted them without any Verizon "added touches".

Same.

I will admit that it suffered from signal and battery life issues, though. The radios were so bad that I doubt I'll ever get a Samsung phone again.

 

[VooDooCC]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Same.

I will admit that it suffered from signal and battery life issues, though. The radios were so bad that I doubt I'll ever get a Samsung phone again.

I'm still rocking the gnex. And agree about not buying another Samsung. Now it's just to decide nexus or turbo.

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[Scott7217]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

The blame on Verizon is they BLOCKED UPDATES on the device which went out to all other Nexus phones.

That's certainly an issue, but I think Verizon pushed out an update for the 2013 Moto X that went out very quickly, even before the update for the Nexus 4.

We also have Verizon finally putting the Nexus 7 in their lineup, which is another step in the right direction.

Google is also putting more features in the Play store as apps. It's a lot easier to update individual apps and avoid interference from the carriers that way.

Whether Verizon gets a Nexus phone this year is up to Verizon and Google. I think if push comes to shove, Google can put more pressure on Verizon.

 

[Casey DC]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

The blame on Verizon is they BLOCKED UPDATES on the device which went out to all other Nexus phones. It doesn't matter if the phone itself was good or bad, Verizon's policies are anti-consumer and bad, regardless of phone.

In fact the ONLY good thing Verizon seems to do is they sell a lot of phones unlocked.

Did they actually block them as in tell Google, no you can't update this phone? Or was it that Google had a harder time with licensing the CDMA libraries or other specific pieces of software required to push the update? There is literally NOTHING to gain for a service provider by not pushing an update. Give me a good reason why Verizon would block the update.

 

[Crispy]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

Did they actually block them as in tell Google, no you can't update this phone? Or was it that Google had a harder time with licensing the CDMA libraries or other specific pieces of software required to push the update? There is literally NOTHING to gain for a service provider by not pushing an update. Give me a good reason why Verizon would block the update.

Are you really asking why Evil (Verizon) behaves the way it does? I'm only slightly kidding.

Verizon takes much longer to 'certify' all kinds of phones, they delay updates, remove features on the phones, lock bootloaders etc etc etc. Then you have truly evil practices like trying to get people to use their paid garbage like Vzw navigator, Messenger etc, not offering wifi calling etc.

What do they have to gain? Quite simply, planned obsolescence and giving you a reason to upgrade. They aren't the only carrier in the US to do this, they are all evil, but Vzw knows they have the best network and thus a captive audience.

Look at the rest of world outside the US. All carriers are on GSM and your phone can work on any tower without fees. Plans cost a fraction of US prices, there are no contracts, if there are they are cheaper. You can get any phone with any carrier and switch sims easily.

The only reason these blood sucking pirates exist in the US (applies also to ISP's) is federal protection by our govt which exists to serve corporations.

 

[Scott7217]

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What do they have to gain? Quite simply, planned obsolescence and giving you a reason to upgrade. They aren't the only carrier in the US to do this, they are all evil, but Vzw knows they have the best network and thus a captive audience.

If Verizon is as evil as you claim, should Google stop doing business with Verizon altogether? That is, should Google block Verizon from having any Android devices on its network?

 

[Crispy]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

If Verizon is as evil as you claim, should Google stop doing business with Verizon altogether? That is, should Google block Verizon from having any Android devices on its network?

There are thousands of oem's who license Android for all sorts of stuff. Google couldn't care less who uses Android and how as long as they get their fees for Google Play Services and ad impressions from their services. Other than than, anyone is free to do whatever they want.

 

[maxburn]

Re: Nexus 6 on VERIZON

What I am looking at is the very recent situation with the newer nexus 7 not getting updates anywhere near as fast as the Wi-Fi model.

Also the Nexus 7 LTE doesn't get the L preview.

The only reason I can see why those updates and L preview were blocked was Verizon. IMO if it were otherwise we would have heard something, but giving no reason for the delay tries to keep the relationship with Verizon good.
The big deal is these blocks happened even if you weren't using Verizon. The device is capable of Verizon therefore it gets blocked etc.

If there were a specific Verizon model independent of the GSM phones I'd be OK with the situation. We can all watch that phone lag behind the others and know why it's happening.