Google Nexus 6 Price doesn't matter

[Ry]

Re: Price doesn't matter

Any device is designed with certain goals in mind. You could say that about toasters, automobiles, or smartphones.

Google wants to appeal to the users so that they will use Google services. Listening to what the users want is the first step towards getting more users on board.

I would agree with you that the Nexus 6 is a value buy compared to other phablets, so we have consensus there.

Unless their previous phone wasn't an Android phone running Google services, I doubt that Google cares if a user's next phone is a Nexus 6 or a Moto X, or a Galaxy Note 4, or a Z3.

 

[sulla1965]

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People buy Nexus. End of story.

Way too early for that statement. Wait about 6 months and see if this phone isn't available for $499 off contract because nobody is buying it. I'd advise waiting for in-depth reviews and comparison videos before committing. Buying a phone just because its a "nexus", is just silly.

 

[radicchio]

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I do hope that selling out so quickly is a sign of the Nexus 6's popularity. However, given what I'm reading about people who saw it change almost instantly from available to sold out, it could be that availability is severely limited and, thus, it sold out quickly.However, the fact that there are still a lot of people who would have bought it if it was available is further evidence that even more were willing to pay the price to get one.

Either way, I'm still interested and look forward to hearing some hands-on experiences with the phone once people start getting their hands on one.

 

[Scott7217]

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I don't think it's really OS... They could still sell HTC, Samsung, all that and just not Nexus.

I think the popularity of Android devices gives Google leverage to use in negotiations. I suspect Android's increasing popularity is why Verizon is getting a Nexus phone this year.

 

[Scott7217]

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Unless their previous phone wasn't an Android phone running Google services, I doubt that Google cares if a user's next phone is a Nexus 6 or a Moto X, or a Galaxy Note 4, or a Z3.

It's possible that Google designed the Nexus 6 to attract people who use non-Android phones, like iPhones and Lumias.

 

[Closingracer]

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Isn't Android the most popular mobile OS running on all the major US carriers? Doesn't that give Google any influence at all?

Google isn't selling the phones... Samsung Is the highest selling Android Device maker .... Nexus 5 is what 1-3% of what T-mobile and Sprint Sells?


I am not Hating on the Nexus "Brand" but Nexus isn't exactly selling like Hotcakes like iPhone's or Samsung devices which even pales to iPhone

 

[Scott7217]

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Google isn't selling the phones... Samsung Is the highest selling Android Device maker .... Nexus 5 is what 1-3% of what T-mobile and Sprint Sells?

So imagine what would happen if the Nexus became the best-selling phone on the planet. I'd like to see what would happen in a situation like that.

 

[Premium1]

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Google isn't selling the phones... Samsung Is the highest selling Android Device maker .... Nexus 5 is what 1-3% of what T-mobile and Sprint Sells?


I am not Hating on the Nexus "Brand" but Nexus isn't exactly selling like Hotcakes like iPhone's or Samsung devices which even pales to iPhone

Nexus was never really advertised or pushed before. Not to mention this is the first time in awhile it has been on every carrier. I think that will help some, still most likely won't sell apple or even samsung like levels, but think it will be a solid seller none the less

 

[frooglepoopillion]

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Google isn't selling the phones... Samsung Is the highest selling Android Device maker .... Nexus 5 is what 1-3% of what T-mobile and Sprint Sells?


I am not Hating on the Nexus "Brand" but Nexus isn't exactly selling like Hotcakes like iPhone's or Samsung devices which even pales to iPhone

This.

I always cringe when people say that Android is the market share leader in mobile. While I'm sure that is technically correct, iPhones still dwarf the competition in devices sold. So we should really be looking at how many Samsung phones are sold per year vs iPhones because I'm pretty sure that it's not all that close. There are how many different manufacturers running different versions of Android versus one manufacturer running mostly the same version of iOS? That is why Apple has so much pull because everyone knows that most people will be running the same version of the operating system with similar specs and screen sizes instead many different specs on many different versions of Android. That and virtually guaranteed high sale numbers give Apple a huge advantage.

I think Google's biggest mistake was making Android open and now they have next to zero pull with the carriers. Do they care? Maybe, maybe not but it seems to be getting slightly better in all areas with each Nexus device. I remember when ATT didn't even officially support the Nexus 4. It's good to see the carriers offering up the Nexus 6 but if they are allowed to have their own bloatware or OS tweaks I'd say Google has officially lost that battle. Hopefully not!

 

[Ry]

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It's possible that Google designed the Nexus 6 to attract people who use non-Android phones, like iPhones and Lumias.

By going even bigger than the other Android flagships?

I doubt there are iPhone 5 owners that were waiting on Nexus 6 because the Nexus 5 was too small.

 

[Ry]

Re: Price doesn't matter

This.

I always cringe when people say that Android is the market share leader in mobile. While I'm sure that is technically correct, iPhones still dwarf the competition in devices sold. So we should really be looking at how many Samsung phones are sold per year vs iPhones because I'm pretty sure that it's not all that close. There are how many different manufacturers running different versions of Android versus one manufacturer running mostly the same version of iOS? That is why Apple has so much pull because everyone knows that most people will be running the same version of the operating system with similar specs and screen sizes instead many different specs on many different versions of Android. That and virtually guaranteed high sale numbers give Apple a huge advantage.

I think Google's biggest mistake was making Android open and now they have next to zero pull with the carriers. Do they care? Maybe, maybe not but it seems to be getting slightly better in all areas with each Nexus device. I remember when ATT didn't even officially support the Nexus 4. It's good to see the carriers offering up the Nexus 6 but if they are allowed to have their own bloatware or OS tweaks I'd say Google has officially lost that battle. Hopefully not!

Google is an information company. Search. Ads.

Google uses Android as a conduit to Google services.

Even if Apple sells more iPhones than Samsung does Galaxy phones, it doesn't matter. There are Galaxy phones that run Google services. There are Moto phones that run Google services. If you buy one of those instead of a Nexus, it doesn't really matter much to Google's core business.

 

[Ry]

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Nexus was never really advertised or pushed before. Not to mention this is the first time in awhile it has been on every carrier. I think that will help some, still most likely won't sell apple or even samsung like levels, but think it will be a solid seller none the less

A Nexus phone has never been on all of the big 4 US carriers at once. I'm more impressed that they have US Cellular availability.

 

[Scott7217]

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By going even bigger than the other Android flagships?

I doubt there are iPhone 5 owners that were waiting on Nexus 6 because the Nexus 5 was too small.

Google realizes that people don't really make phone calls these days. People are looking for portable, internet-connected devices, where it makes sense to have a bigger screen.

As for iPhone 5 owners, I would suspect they held off on the Nexus 5 because they didn't like the camera.

 

[UJ95x]

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Just like people buy iPhones. It is still hundreds cheaper than similar storage iPhone. Too many people are just cheap and expect to get high end specs for low end prices.

$100 cheaper than the base iPhone 6+ (half the storage as the N6) or $150 less than the iPhone 6+ if you compare both 64GB models...not quite hundreds, but yes, cheaper

 

[Jeremy8000]

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I don't think it's really OS... They could still sell HTC, Samsung, all that and just not Nexus.

Verizon could have remained the lone holdout, but given that this phone supports their network bands very well, and was going to be picked up by every other carrier, opting against it - when it legitimately could become a huge hit if reviews end up favoring it over the Note 4 and iPhone - might put them in a competitive disadvantage. That, and while Nexus have generally not been advertised by carriers much in the past, this is the first Nexus phone that truly competes at the flagship level while remaining substantially less expensive than its peers (albeit not as ridiculously underpriced as the N4/5 had been).

 

[drxtal]

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Google is an information company. Search. Ads.

Google uses Android as a conduit to Google services.

Even if Apple sells more iPhones than Samsung does Galaxy phones, it doesn't matter. There are Galaxy phones that run Google services. There are Moto phones that run Google services. If you buy one of those instead of a Nexus, it doesn't really matter much to Google's core business.

Very well stated. One should also consider that iPhones and iPads rely on Google Search, and the various Google iOS apps are both excellent and widely used.

 

[frooglepoopillion]

Actually I believe Apple devices run off Bing now.

 

[Almeuit]

Actually I believe Apple devices run off Bing now.

If I'm not mistaken the user can choose.

 

[DirkBelig]

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I do hope that selling out so quickly is a sign of the Nexus 6's popularity. However, given what I'm reading about people who saw it change almost instantly from available to sold out, it could be that availability is severely limited and, thus, it sold out quickly.

When OnePlus can't deliver mass quantities of phones, they are bashed as being a lying ripoff company that isn't worthy of considering buying the products. Harrumph! Harrumph!

When Google can't deliver mass quantities of phones, they are hailed as having been totally correct in their decision to double their prices because Google is awesome and Nexus is awesome and everything is awesome.

Yeesh. Double-standard much, fanboys? And I'm speaking as someone who bought the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and both Nexus 7s the moments they became available.

I've had a OnePlus One for four months now and sat in jaw-dropped sadness as Google unveiled their "We're Charging Samsung Money Now!" strategy. That $230-$280 tablet is now $400-$480. That $400 phone is now $650 and if you want 64GB, that will be exactly double of what a comparable OnePlus One is, provided you can actually get a chance to buy one. (If 1+ doesn't try and roll the hard 6 and go all in to supply the market segment Google just threw away, they're insane and stupid.) I just bought a nice 55" TV for $780; am I spending almost that much with tax and shipping for a phone that's almost too big to use as a phone.

Sorry, OP. Price most certainly DOES matter unless you're enslaving yourself to a carrier contract to make it affordable.

 

[RealDogBoy]

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When OnePlus can't deliver mass quantities of phones, they are bashed as being a lying ripoff company that isn't worthy of considering buying the products. Harrumph! Harrumph!
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I don't recall anyone accusing One Plus of lying or ripping people off. Here's the thing: by making the phones so hard to get, they've made themselves irrelevant. If there is indeed a lot of demand for The One, then they should be able to get financing to build them. By waiting and producing only small batches they risk selling only a tiny number of phones by the time their tech (as good as it is now) is outdated.