Google Pixel 2

[Aquila]

removable storage versus internal.....the card failing...all of your objections to external storage.

I think we may have lost each other? Probably my fault.

 

[jamezr]

I've had three die... all name brand, 'top quality' cards. One of them crapped its pants at the end of a vacation and we lost all of the photos we had on the camera (this was pre-cloud backup days).

I will never again rely on an SD card to store my pictures and videos. I'll use them to expand the storage of a phone, like on my wife's S7 Edge, but those pictures get sucked up to Google Photos toot sweets... I view SD cards as temporary storage, and every picture that is on one that isn't backed up yet, I see as a potentially lost one.

They fail... they fail fairly often... That you haven't had one die on you, consider yourself lucky. The other volunteer staff and I here have each answered dozens of posts from people who had those cards go south on them and needed help recovering them (hint : unless they are backed up, you can't)

but those anecdotal....what about the millions that are in use and not failing. Then also this is a place people come for help. You will see more problems percentage wise than normal.
Everything I have on my phone is temporary. It could die, get stolen or otherwise meet an untimely death...... I still stand by my assertion that SD Cards are a great additional storage options for smartphones. I have used dozens and never had one fail.

 

[jamezr]

Google included a cable to migrate iPhone to Pixel. I'd consider the iPhone main competition just because of that cable in the box.

It certainly is the single bestselling phone model on the planet.

 

[cardboard60]

I've never had a SD card to give me one minutes problem, in any phone I've ever had.

 

[Aquila]

I've never had a SD card to give me one minutes problem, in any phone I've ever had.

How many phones is that?

 

[cardboard60]

It certainly is the single bestselling phone model on the planet.

I was asking about I have notes on my Note 5. Does Pixel have notes or memo pad.
He said you would have to download one.
He's not sure how I would get everything from my Note to the Pixel.
Its touch when you go to phone stores and they can't even tell you what to do.

 

[Aquila]

I was asking about I have notes on my Note 5. Does Pixel have notes or memo pad.
He said you would have to download one.
He's not sure how I would get everything from my Note to the Pixel.
Its touch when you go to phone stores and they can't even tell you what to do.

Back them up to keep?

 

[LeoRex]

but those anecdotal....what about the millions that are in use and not failing.

The failure rate for those cards is significantly higher than the internal media used in phones. I've lost cards, many of the vol staff here have lost cards. I've known plenty of people that have lost cards, etc. It's good that you haven't. They aren't reliable... It's a common topic on phone forums, camera forums, any device that uses them.

 

[cardboard60]

Back them up to keep?

I use them all the time. I need them in Memo or Notes on the Pixel if I get something straighted out and we can use my Wifes S7E that is on At&t on Verizon.
Not typing all the notes on the pixel.
They need to transfer.
Seems there is a big difference in how Samsung and Google does things.

 

[cardboard60]

Got them in my 2 cameras.
Got them in my Depth finders on my Boat
Got one in my GPS that is on my motorcycle.

No problems.

 

[cardboard60]

Got them in my 2 cameras.
Got them in my Depth finders on my Boat
Got one in my GPS that is on my motorcycle.

No problems.

 

[Ry]

I use them all the time. I need them in Memo or Notes on the Pixel if I get something straighted out and we can use my Wifes S7E that is on At&t on Verizon.
Not typing all the notes on the pixel.
They need to transfer.
Seems there is a big difference in how Samsung and Google does things.

sure. Big difference is that Google is better at cloud.

Looks like you'll need a way to migrate your memos to Google Keep - Google's cloud-based, note-taking app.

https://keep.google.com/

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...=com.google.android.keep&hl=en&token=Ur5dAbzd

 

[Aquila]

Got them in my 2 cameras.
Got them in my Depth finders on my Boat
Got one in my GPS that is on my motorcycle.

No problems.

Are any of those phones?

 

[Aquila]

I use them all the time. I need them in Memo or Notes on the Pixel if I get something straighted out and we can use my Wifes S7E that is on At&t on Verizon.
Not typing all the notes on the pixel.
They need to transfer.
Seems there is a big difference in how Samsung and Google does things.

You were describing the perfect reason not to subscribe to apps and services that Samsung creates redundant to existing apps that do everything better. Because most of the time Samsung's garbage is not transferable to anything else. That's how they do their ecosystem lock. Best advice for you is to buy the S8 Plus or wait for the Note 8 because the pixel 2 is not going to have an SD card slot and it is not going to support all of Samsung's proprietary nonsense.

 

[jamezr]

The failure rate for those cards is significantly higher than the internal media used in phones. I've lost cards, many of the vol staff here have lost cards. I've known plenty of people that have lost cards, etc. It's good that you haven't. They aren't reliable... It's a common topic on phone forums, camera forums, any device that uses them.

I am sure you will see a lot of people asking for help with SD Card problems on those types of forums. But to be honest those types of forums are where people go that have problems. That doesn't count the millions that do not have a problem and do not go to a forum to report they have not had a problem.
If you go to support forums and base your buying choices on what problems people have...you would never buy another electronic device as people will only go there to report a problem.......

 

[jamezr]

Are any of those phones?

so they only fail in phones?

 

[Aquila]

so they only fail in phones?

You're really good at picking apart arguments and I didn't make

Phones and tablets on Android are not built to accommodate external storage being used as additional storage. When you have a card for a camera or a GoPro or a GPS or a media center or all of these things that are not phones and tablets.... You have a giant list of things whose operating systems are built around the need for external storage. The entire idea is that the thing has only enough storage to accommodate its own software and maybe a little extra but they are intending for you to use external storage for the vast majority of extra files that you need to utilize. And once again all of those things that we've just listed have almost no access to any personal protected information that the user may have. Both of those make things not running Android and not meant to be the type of device described make it a totally different animal and therefore all of those extra things are entirely irrelevant to the argument against using external storage regularly on Android phones and tablets.

 

[cardboard60]

Note 4, s5,s6 s7e, 2 note 7
Just in the last 3 yrs.

 

[jamezr]

You're really good at picking apart arguments and I didn't make

Phones and tablets on Android are not built to accommodate external storage being used as additional storage. When you have a card for a camera or a GoPro or a GPS or a media center or all of these things that are not phones and tablets.... You have a giant list of things whose operating systems are built around the need for external storage. The entire idea is that the thing has only enough storage to accommodate its own software and maybe a little extra but they are intending for you to use external storage for the vast majority of extra files that you need to utilize. And once again all of those things that we've just listed have almost no access to any personal protected information that the user may have. Both of those make things not running Android and not meant to be the type of device described make it a totally different animal and therefore all of those extra things are entirely irrelevant to the argument against using external storage regularly on Android phones and tablets.

you're really good at ignoring all the benefits and ignoring all POV but your own.
SD Cards work in other devices than just phones...when that was pointed out to you your reply was

Are any of those phones?

If they are as unreliable as you say.....they would fail in all devices pretty equally.

You might have anecdotal experiences here on the AC forums that might lead you to have a skewed sense of things. But this is where people go when they have a problem. So the percentages are skewed to the negative. It does not take in effect the millions of SD Cards that are in use in all kinds of devices with no problem what so ever. People don't typically go out of their way to stop by a forum they probably do not know exists to post something positive about a SD Card that has performed as they expected it to....

This is simply not true....

Phones and tablets on Android are not built to accommodate external storage being used as additional storage

I have used SD Cards as additional storage on a number of Android tablets and phones.

 

[Aquila]

you're really good at ignoring all the benefits and ignoring all POV but your own.
SD Cards work in other devices than just phones...when that was pointed out to you your reply was


If they are as unreliable as you say.....they would fail in all devices pretty equally.

You might have anecdotal experiences here on the AC forums that might lead you to have a skewed sense of things. But this is where people go when they have a problem. So the percentages are skewed to the negative. It does not take in effect the millions of SD Cards that are in use in all kinds of devices with no problem what so ever. People don't typically go out of their way to stop by a forum they probably do not know exists to post something positive about a SD Card that has performed as they expected it to....

We're talking about whether or not the pixel 2 will have an SD card. The challenges and the manufacturer objection to it are pretty relevant. The absence or presence of the feature in other devices or other kinds of products seems pretty immaterial.