GPS now intermittent?

[FrankXS]

...disabled "Standalone GPS Services

Yep. That'd do it

-Frank



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[Helloneumann]

I need to do more testing to be sure, but I think I have found the problem and an easy solution. The recent update seems to have disabled "Standalone GPS Services." If you are experiencing the problem described in this thread, go to Settings/Location and enable "Standalone GPS Services." Since doing that the GPS Status app no longer keeps repeatedly acquiring and losing satellite signals. I haven't used the Navigator app while driving since discovering this, but based on GPS Status indications I think this probably has fixed the problem.

Hope that was the issue, I just checked and stand alone is checked. Apparently the update didn't un check mine. Good luck.

 

[mman609]

Before the update my GPS was intermittent, with all satellites being dropped regularly, but recovery coming quickly. After the update, initial fix was more rapid, but the intermittent problem continues. Now, losing individual satellites is standard with a dedicated GPS and doesn't reflect a failure in a system. But losing all satellites isn't normal. It appears that as the phone picks up a new satellite or loses one, it temporarily drops to 0 satellites before returning to its new total. This has occurred after making sure "Standalone GPS Services" is enabled.

 

[mobiletiger]

Unfortunately, re-enabling "Standalone GPS Services" did not fix the problem. It seemed to be fixed for a short time, but now the GPS service repeatedly starts and stops as it did before which makes its use for navigation very poor.

 

[idixcom]

I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?

My GPS has been a HUGE problem since I got my TB on opening day. Up to 10 minutes to get a GPS lock on any apps. Since this update yesterday, I'm averaging about 30 seconds, so I'm happy. Also tested on a long drive this morning in city and highway. Seemed to track nicely any time I was paying attention.

 

[Edwill86]

GPS was about a 2-10min lock on time before the ota, now im getting less then 30 sec lock on time after the mr2 update.

 

[jrmarinojr]

Love this phone, but the GPS flat out SUCKS...always had issues since release day. Should not need to use 3rd party apps to find your location. Pathetic.

 

[AirlinerDudeB6]

For those that say their GPS locks and works great, is that just in the maps app and using navigation? Have you watched the info in GPS status to verify that you lose all satellites every few seconds? I agree with above post. When driving, the arrow icon will be surrounded by a blue circle indicating it lost my location, but it isn't obvious right away unless you watch it as it comes back quickly. GPS status shows what's really going on clearly.

So it seems the update definitely is causing GPS to drop out. Whether this affects real world situations is debatable. It does lose me while using navigation, but quickly (within a second or two) picks me back up. So, my take is that it technically is not working as it is supposed to, but in reality it doesn't cause a serious decrease in performance. Does anyone see no drop of all satellites after watching GPS Status for 30 seconds or so? It usually happens to me within 5 seconds, but it would be good to watch it a little longer. Wondering if some people are not having this issue. Might be worth trying a factory reset but I don't want to lose all my game data. I suppose this is better than it not locking at all for many people, but to me this is a downgrade as it always locked on me within 5 seconds or so and would never drop all satellites.

I too am having this issue! I watched GPS Status during my 45 min drive to work this morning and it does indeed drop all satellites every few seconds. I also get the blue circle when this happens while using Google Nav.

Although this doesnt seem to have a huge impact on the Navigation, it definately is not working correctly!

I never had this issue before updating to the new 1.70.605.0. I am rooted, but stock ROM.

 

[bjboucher]

Yeah, the more I watch this the more its driving me crazy. My phone definitely didn't do this on the original leaked Mr2. Not liking what they did with the Gps in the final release.

 

[BostonBeats88]

I wasn't going to post this until today when I gave the GPS a couple of tests. I didn't do the hotspot/vcast bloatware update (or whatever its real name is) until yesterday.

Until then it would take my tb several minutes to get a lock. As of this morning and last night it is picking up my location in about 20seconds. Of course with standalone turned on.

And as a sidenote, how can you tell how many sats you have. The intermittent sat dropping is interesting and I want to see if I'm a victim as well. Thx

 

[jim302]

And as a sidenote, how can you tell how many sats you have. The intermittent sat dropping is interesting and I want to see if I'm a victim as well. Thx

Grab the GPS Status and toolbox app from the market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&feature=search_result

Anyone that has this problem should tweet a link to this thread to @VZWSupport on Twitter.

 

[AirlinerDudeB6]

Satellite dropping was much much worse this morning!

45 min drive to work this morning and was using Google Nav...very choppy!

All sats were dropping every 3-5 seconds thus displaying the blue circle in Google Nav as well. I was passing streets and intersections, and due to the lag, it was showing me behind those points.

Its not very far off and it doesnt take more than a couple seconds to refresh, but this is NOT how it is supposed to work!

 

[yodatom10]

Satellite dropping was much much worse this morning!

45 min drive to work this morning and was using Google Nav...very choppy!

All sats were dropping every 3-5 seconds thus displaying the blue circle in Google Nav as well. I was passing streets and intersections, and due to the lag, it was showing me behind those points.

Its not very far off and it doesnt take more than a couple seconds to refresh, but this is NOT how it is supposed to work!

I'm still not having any these issues. Have you tried gps status. Or a factory reset

 

[bjboucher]

Satellite dropping was much much worse this morning!

45 min drive to work this morning and was using Google Nav...very choppy!

All sats were dropping every 3-5 seconds thus displaying the blue circle in Google Nav as well. I was passing streets and intersections, and due to the lag, it was showing me behind those points.

Its not very far off and it doesnt take more than a couple seconds to refresh, but this is NOT how it is supposed to work!

That's pretty much what mine is doing. Kind of frustrating.

 

[AirlinerDudeB6]

I'm still not having any these issues. Have you tried gps status. Or a factory reset

I use GPS Status religiously. Thats also how I have been watching my satellites dropping in and out.

No factory reset yet...trying to avoid that if possible.

This has only started since I flashed the 1.70.605.0 Build.

 

[yodatom10]

I use GPS Status religiously. Thats also how I have been watching my satellites dropping in and out.

No factory reset yet...trying to avoid that if possible.

This has only started since I flashed the 1.70.605.0 Build.

I'm really beging to wonder if when Verizon pushed this out they broke something. Because it seems the people that flashed the ruu our havong less issues

 

[bjboucher]

I'm really beging to wonder if when Verizon pushed this out they broke something. Because it seems the people that flashed the ruu our havong less issues

Well I flashed it and it broke my GPS so not sure if it really matters.

 

[AirlinerDudeB6]

I'm really beging to wonder if when Verizon pushed this out they broke something. Because it seems the people that flashed the ruu our havong less issues

I am rooted running stock ROM... flashed the rooted version posted on XDA last week along with the new radio.

 

[tropper]

I updated to the latest firmware yesterday. I have never had any issues with GPS with my launch day T-Bolt. Now, after the update, when I go into the GPS Status app, the satellites seems to 'drop' out every few seconds. It will connect to 1, then 4, then 8, etc and all of a sudden all disappear as if you just started the application. I read that at least one other person noticed this behavior and commented that their navigation was a little strange as well. Can other check GPS Status and see if they have the satellites coming and going every few seconds? The best I can see is they all show up as connected for 10 seconds at a time. Then it will drop them all and start connecting as if you just turned GPS on. Any ideas or similar experiences?

I have this issue as well, but am having zero pinpointing issuse in the maps. When at work I am next to a large power substation an it would send my gps haywire. now I am literally locking ten to twenty feet away, an with the quickness too!

So what Im wondering is the satelite droppage a problem for you?

 

[bjboucher]

I have this issue as well, but am having zero pinpointing issuse in the maps. When at work I am next to a large power substation an it would send my gps haywire. now I am literally locking ten to twenty feet away, an with the quickness too!

So what Im wondering is the satelite droppage a problem for you?

It becomes a problem when you are moving, using navigation. It loses you for a couple seconds, makes the nav run choppy and can make you miss a turn. Not to mention, its just not how the thing should be working.