[GUIDE] How To Root/Unroot The Thunderbolt with Revolutionary

[stratejaket]

Nope! I was persistent and rebooted the phone and computer again. After doing this and entering the beta key it zerged for root and said failed to root. I kept doing this and it would switch between failed to root and communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. When the communications interrupted prompt was given to me, I just unplugged the phone and plugged it back in until it worked.

I have successfully rooted!

Congrats!

 

[stratejaket]

Uncdickpark, Glad you finally got it figured out! I was out of ideas and waiting on CW to pop in and offer advice haha.

Just follow CWs guide Here

Very easy to follow and works like a charm.

 

[Diabl0]

Well so much for that. I downloaded and installed a few apps that require Root access. They all went on fine and were granted access by Superuser.

Now Superuser keeps force closing and everything is telling me I have no root. Is there a way to fix this?

 

[stratejaket]

Battery pull? Did you download root check and verify all was good initially?

 

[Diabl0]

Battery pull? Did you download root check and verify all was good initially?

Yes, root check confirmed I had root.

What I just did was to downgrade Superuser (I had been prompted to update it) as well as wiping all of its data. It worked fine and root check confirmed I had root access again. Superuser is still force closing, but root check is confirming that I have root access. Since my superuser isn't allowing me to add permissions none of my apps that require root access are working now besides root check which was added before superuser started force closing. :'(

Now what caused this was that I was trying to use Super Manager to go and move bloatware. In the instructions given on the forum, it says to give Super Manager root access. When I try to do this Super Manager freezes and then force closes superuser and tells me that I don't have root access. Then all of the issues with superuser start.

I uninstalled Super Manager and am doing a battery pull now.

 

[Diabl0]

Well Superuser is still force closing so none of the apps that require root access are working. I do still have root as verified by root check.

 

[stratejaket]

Try uninstalling SU. Wipe cache and dalvik. Then reinstall SU from the market.
Not sure if you know how to wipe caches but CW has it in his guide here in the beginning of the install portion.

 

[harrishaven]

Once it completed could you boot into recovery on your phone?

Yes, I can boot into recovery. It shows Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4

 

[genghisthan]

my HBOOT is 0.95.0000
When I run Revolutionary it says the following
"mecha, with HBOOT 0.95.0000 is not supported at this time."


I think my HBOOT may be that version because when I got my phone for some reason I updated my software even though I planning to root the phone.(STUPID OF ME). So I had trouble trying to root it with the software update. But my friend eventually got something to work. I believe he software downgraded it.

 

[ruckartj]

I need to unroot but want to keep BAMF! I love BAMF and everything is working perfectly except for one "REQUIRED" app, Good for Enterprise. Apparently Good for Enterprise checks for root and if rooted will not run. If I follow the instructions at the beginning of this post, will it remove my root but let me keep BAMF? Is there a better way?

Thanks!!

 

[Cyber Warrior]

I need to unroot but want to keep BAMF! I love BAMF and everything is working perfectly except for one "REQUIRED" app, Good for Enterprise. Apparently Good for Enterprise checks for root and if rooted will not run. If I follow the instructions at the beginning of this post, will it remove my root but let me keep BAMF? Is there a better way?

Thanks!!

Not possible... in order to use custom ROMS (Bamf), you MUST be rooted. If you used the Revolutionary root method... then start from the beginning of the UNroot guide. If you used a different root method other than Revolutionary... then start from the second half of the UNroot guide.

 

[stratejaket]

Its there any way to fool an app into believing that root is not unlocked? I know when I run an app that checks for root su makes me authorize it.
Ruckartj,
Does good for enterprise ask for root access? I don't know but if you deny it does that do anything?

 

[ruckartj]

Not possible... in order to use custom ROMS (Bamf), you MUST be rooted. If you used the Revolutionary root method... then start from the beginning of the UNroot guide. If you used a different root method other than Revolutionary... then start from the second half of the UNroot guide.

That really stinks!! I did some more checking and apparently Good only does these 2 things:

It looks for an entry that contains "superuser.apk" (case ignored)
if so the routine returns true and shuts down.

2. attempts to run the command "su -c ls"
if it can run this, then it also returns true and shuts down.

Can I remove these files and still be able to use BAMF? Other boards have said removing those files worked for them with other mods.

Thanks!

 

[ruckartj]

Its there any way to fool an app into believing that root is not unlocked? I know when I run an app that checks for root su makes me authorize it.
Ruckartj,
Does good for enterprise ask for root access? I don't know but if you deny it does that do anything?

No, I wish it did, but it does not ask.

 

[Cyber Warrior]

That really stinks!! I did some more checking and apparently Good only does these 2 things:

It looks for an entry that contains "superuser.apk" (case ignored)
if so the routine returns true and shuts down.

2. attempts to run the command "su -c ls"
if it can run this, then it also returns true and shuts down.

Can I remove these files and still be able to use BAMF? Other boards have said removing those files worked for them with other mods.

Thanks!

Yea... from what I've been reading, the app doesn't ask for root permissions to where you can deny it. The app scans the phone to make sure its secured... if not you will receive a popup saying "Compliance Check Failed".

Some people have claimed that it works with their rooted phones... I would try to install the app first and see what happens. Your company may be more leniant than others towards rooted phones.

I do see a way to remove superuser with pushing some commands in adb but once you do that.... you are stuck with the current ROM you're using and wouldn't have access to any root apps which might not be the best idea. If something were to go wrong in the future which would require you to boot into recovery to fix... your gonna be screwed. You could always keep rooting and unrooting as needed... in case you need to make any adjustments but that sounds like a lot of work. Its up to you though... if you're willing to go through the trouble and take a chance.. then yes it can be done.

You need to rename: SU and Superuser.apk
Rename them to su.bak and superuser.bak

Commands:
cd /system/bin
rm superuser.apk
rm su

SU is in /system/xbin and you do rm su su.bak
Superuser.apk is in /system/app and do rm superuser.apk superuser.bak

I'm not good with adb and commands so I can't help you out further then that.

 

[kraussca]

I just followed the instructions in the video, stopping it only to let my TBolt catch up, and it went perfectly. Thanks, I now have ROOT.

 

[ruckartj]

Yea... from what I've been reading, the app doesn't ask for root permissions to where you can deny it. The app scans the phone to make sure its secured... if not you will receive a popup saying "Compliance Check Failed".

Some people have claimed that it works with their rooted phones... I would try to install the app first and see what happens. Your company may be more leniant than others towards rooted phones.

I do see a way to remove superuser with pushing some commands in adb but once you do that.... you are stuck with the current ROM you're using and wouldn't have access to any root apps which might not be the best idea. If something were to go wrong in the future which would require you to boot into recovery to fix... your gonna be screwed. You could always keep rooting and unrooting as needed... in case you need to make any adjustments but that sounds like a lot of work. Its up to you though... if you're willing to go through the trouble and take a chance.. then yes it can be done.

You need to rename: SU and Superuser.apk
Rename them to su.bak and superuser.bak

Commands:
cd /system/bin
rm superuser.apk
rm su

SU is in /system/xbin and you do rm su su.bak
Superuser.apk is in /system/app and do rm superuser.apk superuser.bak

I'm not good with adb and commands so I can't help you out further then that.

SWEET!!! I removed su and superuser.apk, had to remove and re-add Good and so far so good! (no pun intended). Yes, I would rather have root and know how much of a pain it will be to go to another MOD but for now, love having BAMF and able to use my corporate email!!

Thanks for the help!!

 

[Cyber Warrior]

SWEET!!! I removed su and superuser.apk, had to remove and re-add Good and so far so good! (no pun intended). Yes, I would rather have root and know how much of a pain it will be to go to another MOD but for now, love having BAMF and able to use my corporate email!!

Thanks for the help!!

No problem....glad everything worked out. If you ever need to make changes to the ROM like updates or any modifications... You just have to uninstall the GOOD app, re-root, make the changes, remove the superuser again and reinstall the GOOD app.

 

[recDNA]

Anybody know if I would run into the same problem with touchdown? Any rooted bamf users using touchdown?

 

[Cyber Warrior]

Anybody know if I would run into the same problem with touchdown? Any rooted bamf users using touchdown?

Touchdown/K9Mail both work fine with rooted phones.