Hard-core Samsung fan switches to Pixel

[cell adviser]

I might try it but I prefer to buy from other than Google seems like Google is getting too big for its own good they're doing everything phone cell phone service card internet browser Broadband everything. I see your point though. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and I love it will probably end up getting another Samsung as I love these things but I will maybe look at a picture one day. One thing I personally don't like about stock Android at least what I think is stock Android which was on a ZTE Cheapo phone I had with T-Mobile it's the horrible keyboard click sounds that it makes. They're really loud and obnoxious. I like the one on Samsung and the one the new one on Apple but the Google keyboard just sounds horrific to me. That's just me and I like to have a click and vibrate on my Ki but other than that I think the Google pixel has very good possibilities I'm going to look at a video of it tonight.

 

[GibMcFragger]

Just ordered an XL. Can't wait!

 

[Almeuit]

Just ordered an XL. Can't wait!

You should enjoy it .

 

[anon(9408097)]

I subtract points for edged screen, hardware navigational buttons, front fps, including a microSD card, having microUSB and the all glass design.

Oh yes. All valid points.

To me edge screen, fps, and SD card are pluses. But I get why you put them as negatives.

 

[anon(5630457)]

Oh yes. All valid points.

To me edge screen, fps, and SD card are pluses. But I get why you put them as negatives.

There's no reason why those should be considered negatives. No reviewer considered them negatives and no consumer would consider them negatives. Otherwise they wouldn't have sold so many of them over the past year.

 

[Aquila]

There's no reason why those should be considered negatives. No reviewer considered them negatives and no consumer would consider them negatives. Otherwise they wouldn't have sold so many of them over the past year.

I consider all three things to be negatives, a lot of people do on the first two... I'm a consumer; your statement is invalid.

 

[Almeuit]

There's no reason why those should be considered negatives. No reviewer considered them negatives and no consumer would consider them negatives. Otherwise they wouldn't have sold so many of them over the past year.

So you have to agree with reviewers only? I agree the majority may not but some may consider them negatives so...

 

[mmcclure0453]

Yes I get that man. Were you using nova on it? As I mentioned for me Nova made all the difference which made me love the S7.

I really miss the
Stock gallery
Stock keyboard
Smart manager
Quick settings in settings
Always on display
The camera app
Water resistance
Curved display

But if i move back to the S7 I'll miss

The software
Comfortable size
I don't know why but i like the design
That's it.

I wish the Pixel had a better camera app. And a better keyboard or typing experience. The things I do the most are interact with people and make content with my phone.

I'm still torn. But I don't have the luxury to go back to the S7 edge so doesn't matter.

Nope, never used Nova on my S7E. Just couldn't handle the lag anymore.

I will say that the typing experience on the Pixel is rough.... That is one thing I hope is improved quickly.

 

[Aquila]

So you have to agree with reviewers only? I agree the majority may not but some may consider them negatives so...

I have detailed at length, multiple times, why sd cards are a detraction from any device they are found on. I have also detailed numerous times why I dislike off screen buttons and fingerprint sensors on the front of devices and there are many, many people that also prefer rear fingerprint sensors and/or screen buttons.

I am for sure not alone on preferring a "flat" screen to the edged panels, there are hundreds if not thousands or more that share that opinion with me within this community alone.

But the entire list of things that I would have changed if I were designing the S7 for myself is:

Hardware:
Use a "flat" screen.
Use the stock Android on screen buttons in the correct order with no modifications.
Use a metal or plastic body, trying to avoid the fisher price look and feel.
Put the fingerprint scanner on the back, similar to where it is on Nexus and Pixel devices.
Use USB 3.0 with a type C connector, disinclude support for Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0 and include support for Power Delivery.
Remove the microSD card slot and offer a 64 or 128 GB option.
Remove the Samsung logo from the front of the device.
Fix the audio, both headphone and speaker sound is terrible.
Include dual front facing speakers, attempting to meet or beat the Axon 7.

Software:
Guarantee major updates within 28 days of public system images being posted for at least two years.
Guarantee monthly updates within 72 hours of public release for at least three years.
Slim down Touchwiz - a lot. Grace UX was a good start for the Note 7, bring that over and then start reading about what OnePlus did with the software on the 3T, both from a resource management and animation design perspective.
Eliminate most of the duplicated effort system apps.
Eliminate most bloatware.

I would definitely keep the camera, it's awesome - possibly fix the over-saturation in post processing and keep it too fast. I would definitely keep the display quality, still the most accurate Android phone, most accurate AMOLED phone and it's working, so keep it up.

 

[anon(5630457)]

So you have to agree with reviewers only? I agree the majority may not but some may consider them negatives so...

I'm trying to think of a valid reason why anyone would be against expandable (ahem, *more*) storage and I can't think of one.

I have 232GB of storage on my S7 edge. How much storage is on the Pixel?

 

[Aquila]

I'm trying to think of a valid reason why anyone would be against expandable (ahem, *more*) storage and I can't think of one.

I have 232GB of storage on my S7 edge. How much storage is on the Pixel?

Security, stability, user experience and opportunity cost are the first four reasons that come to mind. Internal storage is superior to internal storage 100% of the time, as long as there isn't too little internal storage. I have detailed at length, multiple times within these forums why sd cards are a detraction from any flagship device they are found on. Furthermore, the folks writing the operating system agree with me across the board on my points except for opportunity cost, which is the most obvious and logical reason and so we can assume anyone who has thought it through objectively will arrive at the same conclusion.

More storage is always good, expandable storage is also good - such as via OTG, additional cloud storage, etc. MicroSD cards on flagship mobile devices is what I object to.

 

[Almeuit]

I'm trying to think of a valid reason why anyone would be against expandable (ahem, *more*) storage and I can't think of one.

I have 232GB of storage on my S7 edge. How much storage is on the Pixel?

Security, stability, user experience and opportunity cost are the first four reasons that come to mind. Internal storage is superior to internal storage 100% of the time, as long as there isn't too little internal storage. I have detailed at length, multiple times within these forums why sd cards are a detraction from any flagship device they are found on. Furthermore, the folks writing the operating system agree with me across the board on my points except for opportunity cost, which is the most obvious and logical reason and so we can assume anyone who has thought it through objectively will arrive at the same conclusion.

More storage is always good, expandable storage is also good - such as via OTG, additional cloud storage, etc. MicroSD cards on flagship mobile devices is what I object to.

^ That.

 

[anon(9408097)]

I have detailed at length, multiple times, why sd cards are a detraction from any device they are found on. I have also detailed numerous times why I dislike off screen buttons and fingerprint sensors on the front of devices and there are many, many people that also prefer rear fingerprint sensors and/or screen buttons.

I am for sure not alone on preferring a "flat" screen to the edged panels, there are hundreds if not thousands or more that share that opinion with me within this community alone.

But the entire list of things that I would have changed if I were designing the S7 for myself is:

Hardware:
Use a "flat" screen.
Use the stock Android on screen buttons in the correct order with no modifications.
Use a metal or plastic body, trying to avoid the fisher price look and feel.
Put the fingerprint scanner on the back, similar to where it is on Nexus and Pixel devices.
Use USB 3.0 with a type C connector, disinclude support for Qualcomm Quickcharge 2.0 and include support for Power Delivery.
Remove the microSD card slot and offer a 64 or 128 GB option.
Remove the Samsung logo from the front of the device.
Fix the audio, both headphone and speaker sound is terrible.
Include dual front facing speakers, attempting to meet or beat the Axon 7.

Software:
Guarantee major updates within 28 days of public system images being posted for at least two years.
Guarantee monthly updates within 72 hours of public release for at least three years.
Slim down Touchwiz - a lot. Grace UX was a good start for the Note 7, bring that over and then start reading about what OnePlus did with the software on the 3T, both from a resource management and animation design perspective.
Eliminate most of the duplicated effort system apps.
Eliminate most bloatware.

I would definitely keep the camera, it's awesome - possibly fix the over-saturation in post processing and keep it too fast. I would definitely keep the display quality, still the most accurate Android phone, most accurate AMOLED phone and it's working, so keep it up.

You just described the Pixel.

I think the problem is that people want Samsung to become more like Pixel and Pixel to become more like Samsung.

A Samsung made Nexus would've been the phone of the century. If it did happen. But it never will.

And by the looks of things, Samsung isn't coming anywhere near stock android any time soon. But Google on the other hand, to stay in the game, will definitely have to up their hardware game this year.

So I think we will see a Pixel phone closer to a Samsung phone instead of a Samsung phone closer to a Pixel phone. Which is okay.

The S8 and the Pixel 2 are going to fight for the number one spot again this year. And theyll each play to their own strengths. Samsung with their out of this world hardware and pixel with their 'iPhone like' experience and maybe, just maybe, hardware to match.

 

[xocomaox]

There's no reason why those should be considered negatives. No reviewer considered them negatives and no consumer would consider them negatives. Otherwise they wouldn't have sold so many of them over the past year.

I consider the edge screen a negative. It forces me to use of a case, which I don't like because it makes the phone larger. This was the biggest problem, hardware-wise, with my S7 edge.

 

[Aquila]

You just described the Pixel.

I described something better than the Pixel and much better than the S7 Edge keeps what Samsung is great at, shore up their blunders and shores up the weaknesses of the Pixel at the same time

 

[anon(9408097)]

I described something better than the Pixel and much better than the S7 Edge keeps what Samsung is great at, shore up their blunders and shores up the weaknesses of the Pixel at the same time

Exactly what I said after the line you quoted. And I don't think it will ever happen. Because both manufacturers are doing well at what they're doing. Samsung is already selling millions of phones. They won't ever risk what they have.

Google on the other hand will eventually have to do what you mentioned if they want a share in the market. But their strategy is to NOT BE LIKE OTHER ANDROID PHONES to capture iPhone users.

Different directions. Different products.

 

[Aquila]

Exactly what I said after the line you quoted. And I don't think it will ever happen. Because both manufacturers are doing well at what they're doing. Samsung is already selling millions of phones. They won't ever risk what they have.

Google on the other hand will eventually have to do what you mentioned if they want a share in the market. But their strategy is to NOT BE LIKE OTHER ANDROID PHONES to capture iPhone users.

Different directions. Different products.

Yet the S8 is rumored to get rid of the physical buttons for a long awaited solution to one of my biggest issues with Sammy I still hold out hope for them

 

[Almeuit]

Yet the S8 is rumored to get rid of the physical buttons for a long awaited solution to one of my biggest issues with Sammy I still hold out hope for them

I will believe it when I see it -- Samsung loves that dang button .

 

[Aquila]

I will believe it when I see it -- Samsung loves that dang button .

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s8/759416-thoughts-supposed-s8-leaked-pics.html

 

[Almeuit]

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s8/759416-thoughts-supposed-s8-leaked-pics.html

Oh I saw it but that is a "leaked" / "supposed" photo. You know the difference in "maybe" versus "confirmed" .