Hero Lagging... Any suggestions?

[Verdes8891]

I have had my Hero for just over a week now. And it is really lagging on me when I get halfway through the day. Takes forever to place a phone call, keys take a while to click.

Does anyone have any suggestions of why its doing it and what I can do to fix it. I have Android os 2.1 on my phone.

 

[etnpnys]

Root it. Install a custom ROM.

Ok ok ok - that's gonna be everybody's suggestion, really. It sucks to have to fix somebody's product by voiding your warranty, but that's the truth of it.

You could try just installing a 3rd party launcher - I have found that Launcher Pro seems really fast.

 

[Verdes8891]

Thats what you have insurance for lol

 

[MacGuyInNC]

Root it. Install a custom ROM.

Ok ok ok - that's gonna be everybody's suggestion, really. It sucks to have to fix somebody's product by voiding your warranty, but that's the truth of it.

You could try just installing a 3rd party launcher - I have found that Launcher Pro seems really fast.

It's such an irritation that Sprint does not seem to want to fix these issues. They're so full-force into the Evo that they're forgetting the Hero completely. In my opinion, screw 'em. If they won't fix the problem, then allow us to do it ourselves.

 

[kassdog#AC]

It's not that they dont care but it takes a lot of time to make an update for sense devices. And seeing how the hero isn't getting 2.2 I don't see any major updates to come for these problems.

 

[Verdes8891]

Its not that its really bad. I have seen phones lag much worse than this. At least this is liveable in my opinoin.

 

[MacGuyInNC]

It's not that they dont care but it takes a lot of time to make an update for sense devices. And seeing how the hero isn't getting 2.2 I don't see any major updates to come for these problems.

Really? Then how is it that we have these third-party ROMs done by one-, two- or three-person teams that don't have all of these nagging issues?

Not to mention the fact that I sincerely doubt that this is their full-time job to develop these ROMs...

Sprint, HTC and Google have TEAMS of programmers, researchers and testers. No excuse.

 

[etnpnys]

Really? Then how is it that we have these third-party ROMs done by one-, two- or three-person teams that don't have all of these nagging issues?

Not to mention the fact that I sincerely doubt that this is their full-time job to develop these ROMs...

Sprint, HTC and Google have TEAMS of programmers, researchers and testers. No excuse.

...But those TEAMS of programmers et al cost money. If a company is going to stand behind something on a widescale basis, they need to be able to pay for it - and at this point they can't justify the ROI for spending the $$ and the time on giving us another incremental update. First Google needs to get it out, then HTC has to get their hands on it, and then Sprint needs to certify it all. That's a lotta people and a lotta money.

For the private devs, they do an amazing job. Seriously. But they aren't responsible for making sure that their stuff works flawlessly with every permutation of configurations, apps, and options - nor are they sued for class action lawsuits when the radio doesn't show enough bars.

 

[MacGuyInNC]

...But those TEAMS of programmers et al cost money. If a company is going to stand behind something on a widescale basis, they need to be able to pay for it - and at this point they can't justify the ROI for spending the $$ and the time on giving us another incremental update. First Google needs to get it out, then HTC has to get their hands on it, and then Sprint needs to certify it all. That's a lotta people and a lotta money.

For the private devs, they do an amazing job. Seriously. But they aren't responsible for making sure that their stuff works flawlessly with every permutation of configurations, apps, and options - nor are they sued for class action lawsuits when the radio doesn't show enough bars.

So what's to stop Sprint/Google/HTC from contacting some of these guys and saying, "we love your stuff, and we'd like to A) hire you or B) pay you to fix the problem?"

 

[etnpnys]

So what's to stop Sprint/Google/HTC from contacting some of these guys and saying, "we love your stuff, and we'd like to A) hire you or B) pay you to fix the problem?"

Because they STILL would need to then back the product and pay for all of the testing and development that happens there...

Not to be rude at all, but I don't think I understand which part you don't understand; because essentially you just asked the same question. How are the two scenarios below monetarily different?

1. Development and testing occurs in-house at each of these companies. The companies each pay for the time and labor for each of these employees and each company has to certify the builds so that they can stand behind the product.

2. Development and very very very minimal (by comparison) testing occurs privately. The companies then contact the devs and pay them for their work to be able to use any of it. Then, the companies STILL have to invest in getting the builds certified so that they can stand behind their product.

The end result here is that the company MUST stand behind their product. Otherwise, it's a slippery slope of quality and reputation.

 

[beezy]

I have had my Hero for just over a week now. And it is really lagging on me when I get halfway through the day. Takes forever to place a phone call, keys take a while to click.

Does anyone have any suggestions of why its doing it and what I can do to fix it. I have Android os 2.1 on my phone.

Here's my suggestion get a app like (android system info)from market and when your phone gets really laggy open that app and look to see if twitter or sprint tv is eating up memory if they are then kill them off.I'm not saying use a task killer.

The other way is to root and flash a custom rom.If your not sure about rooting there is plenty of guides and people to help you threw it.You can unroot without any side effects(meaning sprint would never know).

 

[Verdes8891]

Here's my suggestion get a app like (android system info)from market and when your phone gets really laggy open that app and look to see if twitter or sprint tv is eating up memory if they are then kill them off.I'm not saying use a task killer.

The other way is to root and flash a custom rom.If your not sure about rooting there is plenty of guides and people to help you threw it.You can unroot without any side effects(meaning sprint would never know).

That is probably what I will end up doing. This lag is starting to get to be too much and I unable to swap the phone out now.

Can anyone suggest/point me towards a guide or thread to go through it for the Hero?

I have jauilbroken Iphones before I am familiar with the processes and the consenquences. (I know Iphone is not an android)

 

[beezy]

That is probably what I will end up doing. This lag is starting to get to be too much and I unable to swap the phone out now.

Can anyone suggest/point me towards a guide or thread to go through it for the Hero?

I have jauilbroken Iphones before I am familiar with the processes and the consenquences. (I know Iphone is not an android)

Just follow the links and it will take you to the guide to root 2.1,just read threw it and its pretty simple. Just a tip make the nadroid backup after root and keep that one on your pc.If you get stuck just hollar there are plenty of great people to help out around here. http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/15229-guide-rooting-2-1-a.html

 

[Verdes8891]

Just follow the links and it will take you to the guide to root 2.1,just read threw it and its pretty simple. Just a tip make the nadroid backup after root and keep that one on your pc.If you get stuck just hollar there are plenty of great people to help out around here. http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/15229-guide-rooting-2-1-a.html

Thanks Man

 

[MacGuyInNC]

Because they STILL would need to then back the product and pay for all of the testing and development that happens there...

Not to be rude at all, but I don't think I understand which part you don't understand; because essentially you just asked the same question. How are the two scenarios below monetarily different?

1. Development and testing occurs in-house at each of these companies. The companies each pay for the time and labor for each of these employees and each company has to certify the builds so that they can stand behind the product.

2. Development and very very very minimal (by comparison) testing occurs privately. The companies then contact the devs and pay them for their work to be able to use any of it. Then, the companies STILL have to invest in getting the builds certified so that they can stand behind their product.

The end result here is that the company MUST stand behind their product. Otherwise, it's a slippery slope of quality and reputation.

As a developer myself, I DO understand the issues related to developing, testing, re-testing, fixing... re-testing... re-fixing...

And yes, I realize that the third-party developers have no fiduciary incentive to "stand by their product." If it works, they're heros (no pun intended). If it doesn't work, back to the ol' drawing board with a shrug of the shoulders.

My point in all of this is: stand by your effing product. If you release an OS update that's bugged (and we've known about the bugs for months now), then it would behoove you to fix them ASAP.

Instead of fixing the REAL problems, they released a patch shortly after releasing 2.1 that prevents us from rooting our phones. Basically, they're telling us, the paying customer, "screw you, you're stuck with what WE give you, and we'll release a fix... someday... maybe."

I have little sympathy for them after pulling that move. If a patch to fix the lag problems was soon to follow, I'd be more forgiving, but we're still waiting with no word from anyone.

 

[beezy]

As a developer myself, I DO understand the issues related to developing, testing, re-testing, fixing... re-testing... re-fixing...

And yes, I realize that the third-party developers have no fiduciary incentive to "stand by their product." If it works, they're heros (no pun intended). If it doesn't work, back to the ol' drawing board with a shrug of the shoulders.

My point in all of this is: stand by your effing product. If you release an OS update that's bugged (and we've known about the bugs for months now), then it would behoove you to fix them ASAP.

Instead of fixing the REAL problems, they released a patch shortly after releasing 2.1 that prevents us from rooting our phones. Basically, they're telling us, the paying customer, "screw you, you're stuck with what WE give you, and we'll release a fix... someday... maybe."

I have little sympathy for them after pulling that move. If a patch to fix the lag problems was soon to follow, I'd be more forgiving, but we're still waiting with no word from anyone.

I just got to say i agree here 100%. Its funny they release a patch,but what about twitter,gsd,and sprint tv.I'm sure they could fix them three things very easy,if they took the time to.I think normal phone user that just uses the phone for text and call just reboot their phone if it gets to laggy or they just reboot several times a day and they don't notice the lag,cause it doesn't have enough time to build up.lol

 

[Verdes8891]

As a developer myself, I DO understand the issues related to developing, testing, re-testing, fixing... re-testing... re-fixing...

And yes, I realize that the third-party developers have no fiduciary incentive to "stand by their product." If it works, they're heros (no pun intended). If it doesn't work, back to the ol' drawing board with a shrug of the shoulders.

My point in all of this is: stand by your effing product. If you release an OS update that's bugged (and we've known about the bugs for months now), then it would behoove you to fix them ASAP.

Instead of fixing the REAL problems, they released a patch shortly after releasing 2.1 that prevents us from rooting our phones. Basically, they're telling us, the paying customer, "screw you, you're stuck with what WE give you, and we'll release a fix... someday... maybe."

I have little sympathy for them after pulling that move. If a patch to fix the lag problems was soon to follow, I'd be more forgiving, but we're still waiting with no word from anyone.

So be that as it may, how can you tell if you can even root your phone with that patch out?

 

[beezy]

So be that as it may, how can you tell if you can even root your phone with that patch out?

You can root even with the patch,it just requires more steps to do it.If you applied the patch then you have to run one of the ruu that end with.5 then you follow the guide to root 2.1.

 

[MacGuyInNC]

You can root even with the patch,it just requires more steps to do it.If you applied the patch then you have to run one of the ruu that end with.5 then you follow the guide to root 2.1.

Correct, I've done this myself. Should never have come to this, but I got tired of waiting.

The funniest part about all of this is, and correct me if I'm wrong... ROMs like DamageControl and IcedHoneyBun are based off of the 2.1 ROM from Sprint!

So someone obviously figured out how to fix the problem. This earns a huge "WTF" from me.

 

[Verdes8891]

Correct, I've done this myself. Should never have come to this, but I got tired of waiting.

The funniest part about all of this is, and correct me if I'm wrong... ROMs like DamageControl and IcedHoneyBun are based off of the 2.1 ROM from Sprint!

So someone obviously figured out how to fix the problem. This earns a huge "WTF" from me.

Great, Now i just got to get enough time set aside to go through everything and Root it then.