Hey LG....take my money.....please!

[ggendel]

Timing is really bad for me. I'm moving from Verizon in a month (when the last of my phone contracts runs out). So, I have to pick up a non-Verizon phone by then. I would have loved to consider the V20 but it's just not here.

 

[RaRa85]

Third priority, from a design standpoint, removable battery and microSD are both mistakes IMO and so on that front, the Pixel XL is doing better with more internal storage and a larger sealed battery.

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I think Samsung would agree that removable battery is not a mistake. Especially when you've got faulty batteries and hand grenades that could easily be fixed with working batteries from another supplier if you could remove the battery. And when you can get a memory card the capacity of the highest storage model Pixel phone plus the 64gb built in, I don't see how you can really argue that's a bad thing. More choice is better IMO.

 

[Aquila]

I think Samsung would agree that removable battery is not a mistake. Especially when you've got faulty batteries and hand grenades that could easily be fixed with working batteries from another supplier if you could remove the battery. And when you can get a memory card the capacity of the highest storage model Pixel phone plus the 64gb built in, I don't see how you can really argue that's a bad thing. More choice is better IMO.

In a very general sense I agree with your last statement, however these things aren't designed in a vacuum and there are tradeoffs made at every decision point. The decision to add microSD has costs associated with it, just like a removable battery and at the end of the day the OEM has to make a call on what is most closely aligned with their intentions in designing a device.

I do not agree that Samsung would think a removable battery would benefit them, but I guess we can find out with the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 in 2018 to see what this makes them believe the best course of action is.

Finally, my personal preference is to have a sealed battery and no SD card slot. Removable storage has too many drawbacks to make the benefit worth it and I'd much rather have 128 GB on board storage than 32 or 64 + a card. Others have different preferences and that's fine, but those two things are turn offs for me on the V20 and things that are answered better, for me, by the Pixel XL.

 

[RaRa85]

In a very general sense I agree with your last statement, however these things aren't designed in a vacuum and there are tradeoffs made at every decision point. The decision to add microSD has costs associated with it, just like a removable battery and at the end of the day the OEM has to make a call on what is most closely aligned with their intentions in designing a device.

I do not agree that Samsung would think a removable battery would benefit them, but I guess we can find out with the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 in 2018 to see what this makes them believe the best course of action is.

Finally, my personal preference is to have a sealed battery and no SD card slot. Removable storage has too many drawbacks to make the benefit worth it and I'd much rather have 128 GB on board storage than 32 or 64 + a card. Others have different preferences and that's fine, but those two things are turn offs for me on the V20 and things that are answered better, for me, by the Pixel XL.

Understand and that's fine.

 

[RaRa85]

Honestly as awesome as the V20 looks I will not upgrade unless they provide a reasonable explanation as to why they delayed giving us basic information about the release a full month after the announcement. It is simply unacceptable. I will keep my V10 until next fall like I originally planned and then go from there. If they release a statement saying that they had to fix some critical issue that delayed the release I'll happily accept that. But if they just announce pricing and availability without some valid explanation about all the time they wasted they can keep their V20. Me and the V10 will carry on plus I just ordered the legendary Lumia 1020 to round out my collection and also as a backup phone just in case this unit falls to boot loop like my last one. The serial number is different from the number of V10's that had the boot loop issues though so I'm hopeful this one will make it to the finish line. LG blew it big time. I can't justify upgrading from a perfectly working phone to the V20 when they pull a stunt like this.

Guess I had to quote myself. Since we now have a release date AND we get the B&O headphones with the V20 which will most likely still come in under $700, I'm back in. All the way in. I'm ready!

 

[RaRa85]

I would not declare V20 a better camera by listing specs. Its good and certainly one of the best out there. The biggest selling point to me is the wide angle camera - which are incrediblly useful. However, I was very dissapointed they didnt upgrade that 8mp sensor. I have the G5, and the wide angle shots look great on my camera or tablet, but on my 30" monitor, they look grainy and not crisp.

Here are some V20 versus Pixel shots. In this brief test, the Pixel is the clear winner.
Shootout: How good is the new Pixel XL camera? - Android Authority

The Pixel camera seems legit but I'd still side with the V20 for the manual mode. I almost never shoot in auto. Plus focus peaking. How can I say no that? Plus all the phones took great shots anyway.

 

[Leykis]

Guess I had to quote myself. Since we now have a release date AND we get the B&O headphones with the V20 which will most likely still come in under $700, I'm back in. All the way in. I'm ready!

I'm excited to have a date but did that come direct from T-Mobile? We still haven't heard anything from LG at this point which is sad.

 

[TheMarcus]

$830

 

[TheMarcus]

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...0-nougat-at-att-starting-oct-7-300340673.html

I'm not sure how I feel about this... Might just save $400 and get the Moto Z Play.

 

[Mike Dee]

In a very general sense I agree with your last statement, however these things aren't designed in a vacuum and there are tradeoffs made at every decision point. The decision to add microSD has costs associated with it, just like a removable battery and at the end of the day the OEM has to make a call on what is most closely aligned with their intentions in designing a device.

I do not agree that Samsung would think a removable battery would benefit them, but I guess we can find out with the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 in 2018 to see what this makes them believe the best course of action is.

Finally, my personal preference is to have a sealed battery and no SD card slot. Removable storage has too many drawbacks to make the benefit worth it and I'd much rather have 128 GB on board storage than 32 or 64 + a card. Others have different preferences and that's fine, but those two things are turn offs for me on the V20 and things that are answered better, for me, by the Pixel XL.

Why not have both 128 onboard and expandable storage? I don't see where the negative is in this case

 

[Mike Dee]

Guess I had to quote myself. Since we now have a release date AND we get the B&O headphones with the V20 which will most likely still come in under $700, I'm back in. All the way in. I'm ready!

I'm guessing and hoping 650.

 

[RaRa85]

I'm guessing and hoping 650.

That will surely make it worth the wait.

 

[anon(782252)]

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...0-nougat-at-att-starting-oct-7-300340673.html

I'm not sure how I feel about this... Might just save $400 and get the Moto Z Play.

If that price from ATT is correct this phone is doomed. I'm a big LG fan (even though I decided not to get LG this year) but they can't command $830 and me successful IMO. Historically LG phones tank in value very quickly.

 

[Mike Dee]

If that price from ATT is correct this phone is doomed. I'm a big LG fan (even though I decided not to get LG this year) but they can't command $830 and me successful IMO. Historically LG phones tank in value very quickly.

It seems to be inline with the rest of the top tier and most of them are tanking pretty quickly these days. I would say 700 would be a great starting point.

 

[Aquila]

Why not have both 128 onboard and expandable storage? I don't see where the negative is in this case

That'd be better than 32 or 64 and expandable, but worse than 128 and no expandable for my preferences. There are too many drawbacks associated with microSD cards in mobile devices for me to want them. Clearly a lot of people like using them, and that's cool we disagree, but for me personally, the inclusion of the microSD slot indicates poor judgement on the part of the OEM unless the device is intended for a developing market with poor connectivity options or it is a super low budget device with too little onboard storage - and those are devices I feel shouldn't even be sold.

 

[Osahar 87]

Where are you seeing $830?

 

[Aquila]

Where are you seeing $830?

Customers can also purchase the V20 on AT&T Next for $27.67 per month for 30 months or AT&T Next Every YearSM at $34.59per month for 24 months with eligible service.3

$34.59 x 24 = $830

 

[anon(782252)]

It seems to be inline with the rest of the top tier and most of them are tanking pretty quickly these days. I would say 700 would be a great starting point.

If the V20 is like the V10 there's only one configuration and price. That news wire referencing ATT shows $830.

 

[TheMarcus]

I need a new phone, but not for they much.

 

[Mike Dee]

Where are you seeing $830?

27.67 x 30