how to completely remove google from android phone

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This is definitely outside of my area of expertise, but if he/she is using the phone without a Google account, then even if it's "reporting back to the base" the most that could happen is to connect the data to the phones id (MEI # or whatever), but it couldn't be connected to the person. Right?

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True its only going to report what it can get but its still able to send some data back.

Remember the open handset alliance is comprised primarily of Google employees so even if you think its neutral its not. The closest I could see is using cm not aosp.

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I've only been playing with android for a week. It's a very-large, multipart technology. If you have concrete facts and verifiable info, you have my complete and total attention.

I'm completely amazed at the groupthink I have encountered in some places. I think the people that did the Stanford experiment would be extremely interested in observing this field.

I'm all for reasonable privacy, but don't you think you're taking this a bit too far? With as large of a programmer base there is for the Android OS, didn't it occur to you that someone would have voiced these major privacy concerns by now that you seem to think exist? Or do you think it's all a huge conspiracy by the thousands of independent programmers out there?

After only having a week with Android, you really don't have any credibility. What exactly are your concerns about privacy? Unless you live "off the grid" with no bank accounts, computers, phones, Facebook accounts, etc, you will always be able to be tracked. Worried about ID theft? There's babies that have had their's stolen and they have none of those. Spyware? If you only download from official markets, you have nothing to worry about sneaking onto your phone.
 
I'm all for reasonable privacy, but don't you think you're taking this a bit too far? With as large of a programmer base there is for the Android OS, didn't it occur to you that someone would have voiced these major privacy concerns by now that you seem to think exist? Or do you think it's all a huge conspiracy by the thousands of independent programmers out there?

After only having a week with Android, you really don't have any credibility. What exactly are your concerns about privacy? Unless you live "off the grid" with no bank accounts, computers, phones, Facebook accounts, etc, you will always be able to be tracked. Worried about ID theft? There's babies that have had their's stolen and they have none of those. Spyware? If you only download from official markets, you have nothing to worry about sneaking onto your phone.




Taking privacy too far? Honestly .... no.

Utilizing the "cloud" or allowing android apps unnecessary privileges would require a large quantity of trust and/or naivet?. Speaking of trust -- can you look someone in the face and tell them you trust our large corporations or government? I know I don't. But I've been around a while.

You talk about the large numbers of programmers out there and ask if I think it's a conspiracy. Look at it from this perspective. I have, several times now, mentioned that I was totally interested in concrete/verifiable info about spyware in Android. How many people in this thread are espousing the idea that this is fact and yet not one soul has come forward with objective info? Does it make you question your belief systems?

As far as credibility, I'm not concerned. I have a goal -- to separate Google from my phones. I'm asking for facts and stating what I know to be factual. If you think you can debunk what I have done, please do so. The facts will sort out themselves .... no?

I'm amazed that you think that apps from official suppositories are safe. I can look at the privileges being demanded by some apps and I absolutely know these programs were built by individuals with seriously evil intentions. I have aborted installing many, many apps based on their demands for unnecessary privileges. What some think is acceptable data-mining to me is totally unacceptable theft of private info. Or worse. Life is too damn short for dealing with parasites.

I believe that best-in-class apps that are 100% privacy oriented would achieve a wide following when people finally realize that we have alternatives to spyware-filled garbage.
 
Who wants a tinfoil hat? That guy lmfao.

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Just a suggestion, BUT...... although your project is interesting, your communication style lacks finesse. Maybe work more on presenting compelling arguments and less on insulting everyone who disagrees with you.


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Just a suggestion, BUT...... although your project is interesting, your communication style lacks finesse. Maybe work more on presenting compelling arguments and less on insulting everyone who disagrees with you.


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I think everyone needs to agree to discuss and not argue, and to remember to give the benefit of the doubt when reading text.

I've seen comments that COULD be interpreted as insulting from both sides.

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I think everyone needs to agree to discuss and not argue, and to remember to give the benefit of the doubt when reading text.

I've seen comments that COULD be interpreted as insulting from both sides.



Actually, I think I'm in the wrong forum. I did not come here to argue -- but to learn. But I find I don't fit the paradigm.

Sorry for the thread crash-n-burn folks. Won't be bothering you again .....
 
Actually, I think I'm in the wrong forum. I did not come here to argue -- but to learn. But I find I don't fit the paradigm.

Sorry for the thread crash-n-burn folks. Won't be bothering you again .....

Ok. Good luck with your venture. It's been fun.

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Actually, I think I'm in the wrong forum. I did not come here to argue -- but to learn. But I find I don't fit the paradigm.

Sorry for the thread crash-n-burn folks. Won't be bothering you again .....

See, you had to add the parting shot, didn't you?

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Wow.... I am totally intrigued.. I want to hear what the og finds out with his testing.

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Intrigued not at the programming aspect here but the source of the ideology of uber privacy. I mean, no one is forcing you to click the ads google presents you. On top of that, isn't android only open source as long as you abide by the google rules? They still own android. Perhaps this is the greatest inside job every staged. Much like free chum bucket helmets when eating at the Chum Bucket operated by Plankton.

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"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."
"If you have nothing to hide, you won't mind if we come in and look around, will you?"

Which of these quotes is really from the Herr Schmidt?
 
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