Chriss Jones
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What I don't get in this entire useless thread is why nobody understands that unused apps take up valuable memory space. I'd like to remove many Google apps as I simply do not use them and they waste space - simple as that. Speaking as a programmer, there should be NO reason something like Google + or GMail is required for the device to continue to function - maybe they made it that way, but there is no good reason for it to be that way an OS is not dependant on an app - only works the other way ;-)
With root access you can delete whatever system app you want to.Agreed. Besides the OS itself, the only thing Google related I use in my phone is GMail and Maps. Everything else has been disabled but I'd love to be able to delete all the deadwood.
Agree with all of that. And that makes perfect sense for apps that are really necessary for the system (installer, download manager, telephony, GPS receiver, etc). But there's no reason that Google's services apps like GMail, Maps, YouTube, etc need to be system apps.Removing all the gapp files that I don't need is the first thing done whenever I install a new rom. Google really has nothing to do with needing root to delete the bloatware, other than creating the Android base on Linux. All the gapp files are located within /system directory. Since /system contains many important files, to protect users from doing harm to themselves, it makes sense to require the root priviledge inorder to manipulate the files in the directory. Root requirement is a part of Linux security philosophy, since Linux a meant to be access by multiple users. If anyone can access the system directory, well, you can see the potential danger. Now with that said, getting root is a good thing, not only can you remove the bolatwares from the device, you can also backup the device. The only way to remove the gapp files without the root is using the so call minimum gapp file instead.
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Agreed. Besides the OS itself, the only thing Google related I use in my phone is GMail and Maps. Everything else has been disabled but I'd love to be able to delete all the deadwood.
While the snarkiness wasn't necessary, I do have to disagree with you a little.
Android is "a linux-based open source OS" built by Google which, by default, connects to Google's framework. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) I can understand the desire to run Android without Google, but I don't think it's realistic without developing your own fork like Amazon did. But that's borderline note Android anymore.
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Yes, you can run all those things, but if you're running them on any commercial distribution of Android (stock, Touchwiz, Sense, etc) then Google is still collecting data about you and what you're doing. Google services (not the apps, stuff like Google Play Services, Google Location Services, etc) are still running in the background sending your data to GoogleI think the snarkiness was earned, deserved and was even reserved in tone. When somebody asks a question for how to do something, they're not asking us to IF they should do it or not. And so many of those reponses were wrong. You can run off-line mapping programs, you can run personal mapping supported by your own backend server, you can run your own email, etc. You do not have to worship the Gods of Google and if you don't have a clue as to why some people feel better owning their digital life, then don't ask because the concept is beyond you.
You do realize Android is a product of Google, right? It's like saying you don't know why Window's lets Microsoft get away with so much.I don't understand why Motorola and/or Android lets Google take over everything.
Because you're supposed to read the app description in the Play store or wherever you're getting it from to see what it does BEFORE you download it. If you're concerned about privacy, hacking, or malware, checking app info from the settings isn't just the wrong place to look. By that point it's already too late and the app could have already started doing whatever damage it's going to do. Don't blame Google or anyone else for your actions of blindly downloading apps without knowing their functions and checking reviews.ALSO ... why is it that when viewing app information under Settings, it tells you everything conceivable about the app EXCEPT WHAT THE APP DOES??????????????????
Google doesn't do any of that without your knowledge unless you choose not to know it. You can know what Google does if you take a little time to find out. In the time it took you to write this rant you could have learned a lot. Instead, you choose to spend the time complaining.Google syncs my phone numbers to my online Google email account without my knowledge, etc., etc., etc.
Apple? Are we supposed to take that seriously? Please read the link below.Do I have to go Apple in order to dump Google completely?
Wrong. You can remove all Google stuff - although just disabling it is just as effective - and still text, still keep contacts on your phone, still search the Internet, etc - all without syncing anything to Google, sending anything to Google, or using anything Google. I don't recommend it, but it's your choice.I've disabled about 3/4 of what appears to be Google crap on my MotoX but then I can't text, can't keep ANY contacts on my phone at all, can't use voice commands, can't search the Internet, etc.
The biggest problem with smartphones is smartphone users."Smart Phones" are the absolute dumbest invention ever.
Pre-order an iPhone 5, which you could do starting yesterday. Done.[1]
You're welcome!
[1] Android phones by their nature and source are dependent upon Google online services and sites. Since you've just joined and only posted once, we have to presume you are an Android beginner, so this might not've been obvious. But to be fair, the iPhone 4S and 5 are superb phones, and if you only want "a smartphone" they're a good (and now economical) choice (IIRC the 4S is down to $99 on contract).
Everything you said is true for the Android Open Source Project. But AOSP is not what you get when you purchase a Android smartphone. You get an Android operating system which is based on AOSP, but includes all of Google services. So unless you're going to root your phone and compile and flash AOSP, that doesn't help you.Actually android is an open source operating system. It is based on the Linux operating system. The source code can be downloaded altered and compiled for any comparable device. Google does not "own"android. Your phone will operate, third party apps will run, Google Chrome will run, etc without Google services. Anything you need to do can be done from a browser. Please do not offer advice if you don't know what you're talking about.