How to download Android updates over data plan?

[Emig5m]

Like I mentioned when I get next update I'll let you know if I can over data , if not there probably not much we can do .

You can try but it won't work. Called AT&T and they put the blame on Samsung. They then transferred me over to Samsung. The Samsung rep couldn't find a way to do it and agreed that it was ridiculous that they block you from updating your phone. When I asked who is ultimately to blame for this the Samsung rep said that it's Samsung the maker of the phone.

I read about tricks from various people online like setting your date a year in advance because it was said that after a certain amount of time passed it would eventually download the update over cell data due to security concerns to starting it over wi-fi while having the setting to keep cell data connected even when on wi-fi then shutting wi-fi off with the download in progress and it would continue downloading over cell data after starting on wi-fi and some various other tricks and nothing worked for me. The Samsung rep was even Google searching.

At this point my main mission isn't getting my update over my unlimited 5G cell data that I download well over 100GB of data a month and a update is a drop of piss in the ocean in comparison - As a logical person who likes to make sense of things my mission is to understand the ryme and reason to block only the major OS/Security updates over cell data when we're in an age of unlimited 5G where people are posting speed tests of near 2000mbit.

I have a 5G unlimited plan.
I consistently download over 100GB of data a month.
I get free HBO streaming with my account.
I download unlimited amount of updates for stand alone apps.
No problem downloading games multiple times larger than a blocked update.
My offline maps and music data consume far more data.
My local wired internet is 14 times slower than my wireless data - who wants to wait 14 times longer to download something when you can do it 14 times faster? That's a huge difference.

What's the logic behind blocking specifically just major OS or monthly security updates when everything else is a free for all? That's my only mission right now, is understanding what doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[mustang7757]

You can try but it won't work. Called AT&T and they put the blame on Samsung. They then transferred me over to Samsung. Samsung rep couldn't find a way to do it and agreed it was ridiculous that they block you from updating your phone. When I asked who ultimately to blame for this the Samsung rep said it's Samsung the maker of the phone.

I read about tricks from various people online like setting your date a year in advance because it was said that after a certain amount of time past it would download a update over cell data due to security concerns to starting it over wi-fi then shutting wi-fi off and it would continue downloading over cell data after starting on wi-fi and some various other tricks and nothing works for me.

At this point my main mission isn't getting my update over my unlimited 5G cell data that I download well over 100GB of data a month and a update is a drop of **** in the ocean in comparison - As a logical person who likes to make sense of things my mission is to understand the ryme and reason to block only the major OS/Security updates over cell data when we're in an age of unlimited 5G where people are posting speed tests of near 2000mbit.

I have a 5G unlimited plan.
I consistently download over 100GB of data a month.
I get free HBO streaming with my account.
I download unlimited amount of updates for stand alone apps.
No problem downloading games multiple times larger than a blocked update.
My offline maps and music data consume far more data.
My local wired internet is 14 times slower than my wireless data - who wants to wait 14 times longer to download something when you can do it 14 times faster? That's a huge difference.

What's the logic behind blocking specifically just major OS or monthly security updates? That's my only mission right now, is understanding what doesn't make any sense. ������

Hopefully this link can explain little bit

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-An...-an-option-to-use-mobile-data-instead-of-wifi

 

[Emig5m]

No to mention the removal of the SD card and push to cloud services - 100% not believing it has anything to do with bandwidth or capacity.

 

[mustang7757]

No to mention the removal of the SD card and push to cloud services - 100% not believing it has anything to do with bandwidth or capacity.

Yeah we can all take a guess at it ,but Samsung and Att or any carriers going give a run around about it .

 

[Emig5m]

Hopefully this link can explain little bit

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-An...-an-option-to-use-mobile-data-instead-of-wifi

Nope, doesn't explain anything because the explanations don't make any sense.

Not a bandwidth issue because we have unlimited 5G speeds, normal everyday downloads that can use far more data, cloud services getting pushed which use far more data, free HD video streaming being given away with cell data services, etc.

Bandwidth, filesize, and capacity argument squashed.


Next one is extremely laughable, unstable connection that can be interrupted during an important update. Newflash: ALL internet connections are unstable hence why there's error correction and data integrity checks in networking, d'oh. Data is downloaded and verfified BEFORE the update is even applied. It's not like the raw data being transmitted is applied to the phones code in real-time as it's downloaded. It can be interrupted and restarted a million times and it wouldn't make any difference. In fact, I use my cell data pretty much exclusively now because my area's DSL is so unstable and down all the time (CenturyLink, Google their reviews lol). Anyone who knows anything about networking would know that networking stability issues exists on all networks and that's why error correction and data integrity checks exist in the background in ALL networking.

So that myth is squashed.


I'll be waiting for actual logical answers that makes sense because so far I haven't seen any. Simple solution to make everyone happy: Leave the default setting wi-fi only and allow the advanced user to bypass it in the developer options or something where the average Joe will never know to look. And especially for those of us on the top tier unlimited data plans...they aren't cheap...

 

[mustang7757]

Nope, doesn't explain anything because the explanations don't make any sense.

Not a bandwidth issue because we have unlimited 5G speeds, normal everyday downloads that can use far more data, cloud services getting pushed which use far more data, free HD video streaming being given away with cell data services, etc.

Bandwidth, filesize, and capacity argument squashed.


Next one is extremely laughable, unstable connection that can be interrupted during an important update. Newflash: ALL internet connections are unstable hence why there's error correction data integrity checks in networking, d'oh. Data is downloaded and verfified BEFORE the update is even applied. It not like the raw data being transmitted is applied to the phones code in real-time as it's downloaded. It can be interrupted and restarted a million times and it wouldn't make any difference. I'm fact, I use my cell data pretty much exclusively now because my area's DSL is so unstable and down all the time (CenturyLink). Anyone who knows anything about networking would know that networking stability issues exists on all networks and that's why error correction and data integrity checks exist in the background.

So that myth is squashed.


I'll be waiting for actual logical answers that makes sense because so far I haven't seen a logical answer that makes sense. Simple solution to make everyone happy: Leave the default setting wi-fi only and allow the advanced user to bypass it in the developer options or something where the average Joe will never know to look. And especially for those of us on the top tier unlimited data plans...they aren't cheap...

If you like direct , straight up answer, try getting in contact with att or Samsung engineers teams , I'm sure they can help futher.

 

[Emig5m]

If you like direct , straight up answer, try getting in contact with att or Samsung engineers teams , I'm sure they can help futher.

How do I get in contact with them?

 

[mustang7757]

How do I get in contact with them?

Try calling customer care for either and see if they can connect you.

 

[Emig5m]

Try calling customer care for either and see if they can connect you.

I'll try, but not today...not up for the run-arounds and dead-ends wasting my time again today.

 

[mustang7757]

I'll try, but not today...not up for the run-arounds and dead-ends wasting my time again today.

Ok sounds good

 

[mustang7757]

I'll try, but not today...not up for the run-arounds and dead-ends wasting my time again today.

I deleted your last comment before this one , no need for it ..thanks !

 

[belodion]

Hopefully this link can explain little bit

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-An...-an-option-to-use-mobile-data-instead-of-wifi

^ That.

The unreliability of mobile connections vs WiFi was the objection in the past, and presumably still is.

 

[mustang7757]

^ That.

The unreliability of mobile connections vs WiFi was the objection in the past, and presumably still is.

Yeah I think that's one of the many reasons also .

 

[Emig5m]

^ That.

The unreliability of mobile connections vs WiFi was the objection in the past, and presumably still is.

Nope. 1000% wrong. My cell data is 100% more reliable than my DSL line (plus 14 times faster). Google reviews for CenturyLink DSL and that will tell you everything that you need to know. Plus when hurricane Sandy came through land line DSL was out for nearly a month but my cell data never went down, not even once. What's more reliable? Hmm.

And it doesn't matter anyway since like I explained all internet connections can suffer from packetloss, disconnections, jitter, latency, etc at any time and that's factored in no matter the type of connection and there's built in error corrections and other failsafes built into networking. If you stop your download and resume 100 times you'll still get the same exact data at the end as if it was never interrupted. The updates aren't installed until the download is 100% finished and data is verified. So this argument holds as much water as a bucket with 50 holes in it. Hope this much makes sense to you people.

If cell data was that unreliable it wouldn't work for anything equally and couldn't possibly just single out updates. 100% all cop-outs.

 

[B. Diddy]

Hey, tone it down please. I'm closing this thread temporarily. Please conduct discussions in a more civil way.